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Big Brother Canada 4 WHATM Thread - Contains Spoilers
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Reserved
11-03-2016
Loveita relaying the conversation she had with Mitch to Joel.

Joel takes no time running that bus over and over Kelsey.

She seems pretty set on Kelsey as her target now, but just trying to work out how to smooth things over with Jared/Raul if she gets rid of Kelsey.
Reserved
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by BusyV:
“Is this something scary”

Nothing scary It's a very popular VPN, but I know that some people just dislike downloading things they're not familiar with - like me.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Phil asked Nikki if she'd like to cuddle.
Nikki said yes.
Phil "Yes?!?!"

It's his lucky night

Feed cut to another room ”

Nikki's still cuddling Phil on the lounge just now as Loveita and Joel passed them to go to the HoH and the feed is now on them.
Reserved
11-03-2016
Loveita asks Joel if it's a good move taking out Kelsey because Maddy is after Kelsey so why should she get all the blood on her hands? Raul and Jared will target her next week, she's worried about that.

She says Christine is an easy move because she's not got any allies and she didn't give her word to her.

Now she's back on Kelsey. Says she really doesn't wanna go back on her word to the trio but she knows it needs to be done. She wants to get Jared/Raul onboard with getting rid of Kelsey That's never happening

Yes! Vanessa-itis is here. She wants a REASON to put Kelsey up. She wants someone to tell her something she's said so she can put her up and break her word.
Reserved
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Nikki's still cuddling Phil on the lounge just now as Loveita and Joel passed them to go to the HoH and the feed is now on them.”

The feeds came back to Loveita/Joel, then the minute they were talking to Nikki, feeds switched to Cass/Tim in bed

They hate showing Nikki on the feeds. They dodge her all the time.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Loveita asks Joel if it's a good move taking out Kelsey because Maddy is after Kelsey so why should she get all the blood on her hands? Raul and Jared will target her next week, she's worried about that.

She says Christine is an easy move because she's not got any allies and she didn't give her word to her.

Now she's back on Kelsey. Says she really doesn't wanna go back on her word to the trio but she knows it needs to be done. She wants to get Jared/Raul onboard with getting rid of Kelsey That's never happening

Yes! Vanessa-itis is here. She wants a REASON to put Kelsey up. She wants someone to tell her something she's said so she can put her up and break her word.”

Getting rid of Kelsey is a good idea but getting Jared and Raul onboard I can't see that happening. Although Jared looks to be distancing himself from Kelsey. It is not smart to keep this clique together at all!

What she should do is put Jared and Raul up and have Kelsey as the 3rd option. Break your word because she will have the majority onside. And she will also have Nikki and Tim as 2 votes as Joel has already pointed out to Phil in their discussions. Lovieta + Joel + Phil/Nick + Dalla + Tim + Nikki is 6 votes already + Maddy + Christine + ? So she should just get rid of them!
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“The feeds came back to Loveita/Joel, then the minute they were talking to Nikki, feeds switched to Cass/Tim in bed

They hate showing Nikki on the feeds. They dodge her all the time.”

Yeah thats annoying they are black at the moment and not even showng the conversations in the HoH.

Phil likes Nikki from that discussion earlier with Tim. I don't think he is making a play now just that Nikki responds to affection if shown to her and often she just wants a cuddle.
Reserved
11-03-2016
Cassandra just told Joel that Kelsey/Jared won't put Loveita up next week - they're going after Dallas.

Joel didn't look convinced.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“Cassandra just told Joel that Kelsey/Jared won't put Loveita up next week - they're going after Dallas.

Joel didn't look convinced.”

Cassandra is playing Tim. If Loveita is stupid enough not to get rid of the Clique she will deserve to go home when they will put her up on block again if they HoH.

Tim is not the strategic mastermind as everyone thinks. He is still working everyone out but does have a good social game. And we all know Nikki hasn't got a strategic thought in her head but also has a good social game by just being Nikki.
Mr_XcX
11-03-2016
Loveita is entertaining. She is Vanessa 2.0 <333
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11-03-2016
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Cassandra is playing Tim. If Loveita is stupid enough not to get rid of the Clique she will deserve to go home when they will put her up on block again if they HoH.

Tim is not the strategic mastermind as everyone thinks. He is still working everyone out but does have a good social game. And we all know Nikki hasn't got a strategic thought in her head but also has a good social game by just being Nikki.”

I think viewers may have over-estimated, Tim, too.

The problem is, they all know Tim's there to cause trouble, so sooner or later, his social game isn't going to be enough to take him all the way... Mitch and Joel are already worried he's gonna screw their games up... whereas Nikki's social game is far superior. Tim getting caught up in the plotting and scheming just makes his target bigger.

Nikki continues to build on her relationships - Phil, Loveita, Joel and Mitch will be willing to take her deep into the game right now. Last night she was having fun with Raul, which may make all the difference if he wins HoH next week.

Nikki will never win for the reasons you state, but she sits in the best position in the house right now. In fact, I take that back - no reason she can't win if she can win a couple of HoH's in the second half of the game and get out her biggest enemies.

Social game is important and is taken into consideration... if the final was tonight and she was up against Christine, Dallas, Maddy or Ramsey, she'd win over any of them... possibly even Loveita.

Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Loveita is entertaining. She is Vanessa 2.0 <333”

Loveita is playing scared right now. Vanessa would never play scared. She was a smart, bold player who did all the scaring!

Wash your mouth out and never insult her again!
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by Reserved:
“I think viewers may have over-estimated, Tim, too.

The problem is, they all know Tim's there to cause trouble, so sooner or later, his social game isn't going to be enough to take him all the way... Mitch and Joel are already worried he's gonna screw their games up... whereas Nikki's social game is far superior. Tim getting caught up in the plotting and scheming just makes his target bigger.

Nikki continues to build on her relationships - Phil, Loveita, Joel and Mitch will be willing to take her deep into the game right now. Last night she was having fun with Raul, which may make all the difference if he wins HoH next week.

Nikki will never win for the reasons you state, but she sits in the best position in the house right now. In fact, I take that back - no reason she can't win if she can win a couple of HoH's in the second half of the game and get out her biggest enemies.
.......”

At the moment Tim will be OK but it is too early for him to be thinking strategically as you say some are getting worried about him now. Where as Nikki does have a good social game. Even if you upset her and she throws a huge tantrum one day she is over it just as quickly the next. This is the case with Raul who clearly upset her, hating him and calling him a hyena and then she is in bed cuddling with him wanting to take him to London.
Barracute
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Eviction thread is up - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2141302

Looks like we have a result in terms of the eviction and HoH, but please don't swing out at me if it's wrong as I'm only passing it on from a source on Twitter...Reliable I may add

Spoiler
Sharry evicted 11-1 (the 1 was Nikki) .. Loveita won HOH
”

I am very surprised that no one voted to evict Lovelia (apart from Nikki who was (i assume) voting tactically in a split with Tim voting for Sharry)? Sharry was Lovelia's second in command - so makes no sense to take her out and not the leader? I also thought Sharry was a nicer person then Lovelia and more trustworthy, so no sense on personal grounds either? I guess i am missing something but just cannot see why the whole house (more or less) voted Sharry out
Shine_On
11-03-2016
I'll be honest, I didn't understand the logic behind keeping Loveita over Sharry either. But they all seemed to think it was a good idea.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Nikki is now living in the HoH with Loveita.

In the HoH: Cassandra talking to Loveita pitching for Jared and Kelsey so there not put up on the block. She really hasn't got Loveita's best interest at heart. Now throwing Raul and Ramsey under the bus.

edit: Now she is telling her that Dallas, Maddy, Ramsey all tried to get her evicted.
mysty211
11-03-2016
Tim trying to help Loveita out either two out of the trio or Cassandra and Christine. Tim throwing Cassandra under the bus. I hope she goes Kelsey and Raul. And Kelsey the most likely to go next.
The livefeed is interesting with Tim and Loveita .
Barracute
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Nikki is now living in the HoH with Loveita.

In the HoH: Cassandra talking to Loveita pitching for Jared and Kelsey so there not put up on the block. She really hasn't got Loveita's best interest at heart. Now throwing Raul and Ramsey under the bus.

edit: Now she is telling her that Dallas, Maddy, Ramsey all tried to get her evicted.”

I bet she is loving the hoh room Cant see it at work but enjoying all the comments until i get home tonight to see for myself!
Mr_XcX
11-03-2016
Loveita is Ika Wonging her HoH.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Tim talking to Loveita about nominating 2 of Raul, Jared and Kelsey. She is talking to everyone and thinks those 3 will keep their promises. To me its a no brainer just do it!
mysty211
11-03-2016
Think she's been swayed to go Christina and Cassandra leaving the clique in.
Mr_XcX
11-03-2016
TBH if Loveita can keep things smooth with Trio it could make her slide in the middle with them Vs Maddie / Ramsey / Dallas.

I think this is where her head is at.

Sucks for Christine and Cassandra though.
bluegroper
11-03-2016
Feeds down after BB announcement maybe its nominations. I really hope she just puts up Jared and Raul cut the head off the dragon then if one wins PoV then put up Kelsey. It really is her best play but I think she is too stupid to see it. Doesn't want to rock the boat is ridiculous the 2 she ends up putting up will still be pissed off with her!
Mr_XcX
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Feeds down after BB announcement maybe its nominations. I really hope she just puts up Jared and Raul cut the head off the dragon then if one wins PoV then put up Kelsey. It really is her best play but I think she is too stupid to see it. Doesn't want to rock the boat is ridiculous the 2 she ends up putting up will still be pissed off with her!”

Agreed,

the only reason this girl stayed was under the assumption she WOULD go after the trio. She now is too scared over Jared

I can see Production rushing nominations though to get a Boring Christine out this week. Hope Cassandra can stay.
mysty211
11-03-2016
In a way if she does put up Christine and Cassandra she wants to avoid being next weeks target and if she puts up any of the clique the following week they'll come after her if HOH. She needs to get on both Kelsey and Maddie's clique good side.

It sounds like she has a pact with Jared/Kelsey to not put them up for not sending her home after reading this

http://www.bigbrotherdaily.com/big-b...-14-recap.html
http://www.bigbrotherdaily.com/big-b...-15-recap.html
Fried Kickin
11-03-2016
I think Loveita just made a jury deal with Jared,Kelsey & Raul.
Having said that Raul stayed in the HOH after Jared & Kelsey left and it came across to me that he was trying to strongarm Loveita.
She wasn't impressed.
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