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What is everyone's most favourite regeneration story? |
| View Poll Results: What regeneration episode is your most favourite? | |||
| The Tenth Planet |
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0 | 0% |
| The War Games |
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7 | 8.86% |
| Planet of the Spiders |
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7 | 8.86% |
| Logopolis |
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13 | 16.46% |
| The Caves of Androzani |
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24 | 30.38% |
| Time and the Rani |
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0 | 0% |
| The TV Movie |
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1 | 1.27% |
| Night of the Doctor (Mini Episode) |
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3 | 3.80% |
| The Parting of the Ways |
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12 | 15.19% |
| The Stolen Earth (partial regeneration) |
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3 | 3.80% |
| The End of Time Part 2 |
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5 | 6.33% |
| The Day of the Doctor |
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1 | 1.27% |
| The Time of the Doctor |
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3 | 3.80% |
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#26 |
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I have to say, having watched it recently, I really don't get the love for The Caves of Androzani. To me, it really seems like a routine 5th Doctor story and then suddenly, tacked on to the end as if they'd just remembered Peter Davison was leaving... oh the Doctor's poisoned and has to sacrifices himself to save Peri (because there isn't enough antidote for both).
It's a small scale story. The kind we've seen the Doctor and companion survive hundreds of times. To have him regenerate in this way seems a tad... unconvincing. It's not that I think the Doctor would not sacrifice himself for just one person, especially a companion. He would, and he's offered many times when it seemed necessary. But the story just seems too small in a dramatic narrative sense for the Doctor's regeneration. I know having the hero always survive is not at all realistic, but it's a convention in this sort of series that the hero always does - unless it's a grand "save the universe" story. Logopolis had that at least, even if the actual means of death (a simple fall from height) was weak. That's why I voted for The War Games. It has an epic scale and the personal consequences for the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe and for the show itself were immense. |
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For me The Caves of Androzani is still the top regeneration story. I did like The End Of Time Part 2 as it did feel like an era was closing. Wilf Mott's tearful goodbye as he waves goodbye to the Doctor still gets a lump in my throat.
Doesn't matter to me whether the regeneration story is bad, a huge number of people will cry the Doctor to his sleep anyway. |
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I voted for The End of Time. It was, to me, dynamic and epic in all of the ways that it needed to be. I understand that The Caves of Androzani (sp?) is supposed to be amazing, but I just don't understand that. I have watched it a couple of times and it always o.k. or good to me, but not great. It just doesn't seem like all of that and a bag of chips. Maybe it is because I grew up with Tom Baker and not the Fifth Doctor, but I just cannot understand the adoration which the episode receives. C'e la vie. LOL! It is all a matter of taste, I guess.
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I voted for The End of Time. It was, to me, dynamic and epic in all of the ways that it needed to be. I understand that The Caves of Androzani (sp?) is supposed to be amazing, but I just don't understand that. I have watched it a couple of times and it always o.k. or good to me, but not great. It just doesn't seem like all of that and a bag of chips. Maybe it is because I grew up with Tom Baker and not the Fifth Doctor, but I just cannot understand the adoration which the episode receives. C'e la vie. LOL! It is all a matter of taste, I guess.
![]() This story is not about monsters, it is about saving Peri, and everything that happens in this story is perfectly sums up the 5th Doctor era. This story is creepy, all of the characters in this episode were brilliantly written and the Doctor as neutral with both parties wanting him dead, simply triggers a chain reaction leading to utter carnage. And the Doctor's prime motive throughout, isn't helping a side win the war, but to just save Peri. The structure of this story is faultless, it is intense, scary, heartbreaking and simply a masterpiece. And it is the most adult episode in the show if you ask me, which from my observations and experiences why i enjoy this episode even more when i was older rather than being younger. As it can fly over your head a bit, it did the first time i watched it. But upon rewatch later, i was simply amazed. I also think this story is even better if you have watched the majority of the 5th Doctor's era, as it definitely sums up his era. |
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For me what makes Caves of Androzani so great, it has great acting, the direction is phenomenal, it builds throughout with the tension, drama and all the storylines and relationships come to a head,
This story is not about monsters, it is about saving Peri, and everything that happens in this story is perfectly sums up the 5th Doctor era. This story is creepy, all of the characters in this episode were brilliantly written and the Doctor as neutral with both parties wanting him dead, simply triggers a chain reaction leading to utter carnage. And the Doctor's prime motive throughout, isn't helping a side win the war, but to just save Peri. The structure of this story is faultless, it is intense, scary, heartbreaking and simply a masterpiece. And it is the most adult episode in the show if you ask me, which from my observations and experiences why i enjoy this episode even more when i was older rather than being younger. As it can fly over your head a bit, it did the first time i watched it. But upon rewatch later, i was simply amazed. I also think this story is even better if you have watched the majority of the 5th Doctor's era, as it definitely sums up his era.
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Another vote for Caves, as it's such a good story, and brilliantly directed by Graeme Harper. That he went out saving one person is entirely fitting for Peter's Doctor.
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Another vote for Caves, as it's such a good story, and brilliantly directed by Graeme Harper. That he went out saving one person is entirely fitting for Peter's Doctor.
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looking back on Time Of The Doctor, i find it a tad rushed.
i feel like Moffat just stuck the Daleks in there to confront the Doctor to trigger the regen for the sake of it! Matt's Regen is still my all time fav but i find the ending rushed |
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The same could be said for The End of Time. In fact, in that one, he didn't even die saving a beautiful, young female whom he had known for a long time. He died saving an old, old man who had already lived a full life, whom The Doctor barely knew (especially compared to how well he knew Peri). I think that this makes his death in The End of Time even that much more heroic.
![]() ![]() ![]() To me the whole process was far too dragged out and designed to extract every last bit of emotion from the viewers, when sometimes less is more |
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The difference being that Regeneration just happened in Caves after he spilt some bat juice, whereas Ten's regeneration count down went on for ever, the warnings about 4 knocks in the previous Specials, the conversation in the cafe about how Regeneration was like dying, etc
To me the whole process was far too dragged out and designed to extract every last bit of emotion from the viewers, when sometimes less is more Caves of Androzani managed to make Davison's exit a really heartbreaking thing without acting as though the show couldn't go on without him. |
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No current who has ever topped Davisons outing.
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Caves.
A proper textbook example of "less is more". Unbeatable. |
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Yeah, it's gotta be Caves. I think Baker is a bit cheesy in it though.
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looking back on Time Of The Doctor, i find it a tad rushed.
i feel like Moffat just stuck the Daleks in there to confront the Doctor to trigger the regen for the sake of it! Matt's Regen is still my all time fav but i find the ending rushed ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuf6...etailpage#t=71 Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSfAub8zgw And a slightly better regeneration for the War Doctor, featuring the 2005-2009 Time Vortex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO3veBHQ7aQ I really like this, too! ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3iFPyX83Q Wish they'd done something like this, but what they did do was good enough. |
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I just rewatched The End of Time Parts One and Two and I still think that it is the best regeneration serial. I know that there is about 10 minutes towards the end of good-byes, but, like The Lord of The Rings, I am willing to accept that at the end of an epic. It was still amazing and, to me, it reaches a level of of epic-ness and awesomeness that none of the other regeneration stories have been able to touch.
Anyways, enjoy!
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I haven't seen Logopolis yet, but of all I have seen, Caves of Androzani is the best as a story in its own right.
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