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Old 20-03-2016, 13:08
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There is no difference whatsoever between fruit sugar (sucrose) and refined sugar; it's simply that the refined sugar enables you to add far higher levels than you would find naturally. Drinking a litre of orange juice is also very bad for you, because of the unnatural concentration of the sugars.

Remember to add twenty tablespoons of granulated sugar to your Nutri-Bullet smoothie if you want to replicate the taste of those bought in the shops.
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Old 20-03-2016, 14:14
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There is no difference whatsoever between fruit sugar (sucrose) and refined sugar; it's simply that the refined sugar enables you to add far higher levels than you would find naturally. Drinking a litre of orange juice is also very bad for you, because of the unnatural concentration of the sugars.

Remember to add twenty tablespoons of granulated sugar to your Nutri-Bullet smoothie if you want to replicate the taste of those bought in the shops.
This is just not true at all. There's a very good explanation here:

https://authoritynutrition.com/is-fr...r-your-health/

There's a total difference between natural sugar and refined sugar.
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Old 21-03-2016, 12:35
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This is just not true at all. There's a very good explanation here:

https://authoritynutrition.com/is-fr...r-your-health/

There's a total difference between natural sugar and refined sugar.
What is that website? I've never heard of it.
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Old 21-03-2016, 14:16
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What is that website? I've never heard of it.
It's my own. I made it this morning.
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Old 21-03-2016, 23:07
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Refined sugar is err refined and natural sugar is err natural. The poster I quoted seems to be saying that eating an orange is as bad for you as eating a chocolate bar which is simply not true.
Sugar is sugar. It's fact. Drinking a smoothie is only better for you due to the other health benefits fresh fruit drinks bring. The sugar content is around about the same as a can of coke or there abouts, doesn't matter if it's natural sugar, sugar is sugar. So the first point is not nonsense at all. I mentioned nothing about chocolate. The argument is over drinks. To get a glass of orange or smoothie you would need a lot of fruit which would then bring a lot of sugar. You'd be best eating a orange over drinking a glass of orange which would take 2 to 3 oranges to full the glass.
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Old 21-03-2016, 23:09
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This is just not true at all. There's a very good explanation here:

https://authoritynutrition.com/is-fr...r-your-health/

There's a total difference between natural sugar and refined sugar.
Sugar is sugar and the sooner people realise that the better. Just because it comes from a natural source doesn't mean it's better for you.
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Old 21-03-2016, 23:53
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Sugar is sugar and the sooner people realise that the better. Just because it comes from a natural source doesn't mean it's better for you.
Of course it does. You don't see fat overweight monkeys do you? Refined sugar is not good for you in the slightest. It's also not the same as fruit sugar. You can't compare them. You are genuinely telling me that a drink of Orange Juice is as bad for you as a can of coke? If so, that's nonsense.
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Old 21-03-2016, 23:59
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Sugar is sugar. It's fact. Drinking a smoothie is only better for you due to the other health benefits fresh fruit drinks bring. The sugar content is around about the same as a can of coke or there abouts, doesn't matter if it's natural sugar, sugar is sugar. So the first point is not nonsense at all. I mentioned nothing about chocolate. The argument is over drinks. To get a glass of orange or smoothie you would need a lot of fruit which would then bring a lot of sugar. You'd be best eating a orange over drinking a glass of orange which would take 2 to 3 oranges to full the glass.
You're missing the point. The sugar in fruit is not the same as refined sugar. It's natural. As I said in the post above you don't see overweight monkeys and other animals where friuit is a large part of their diet. You'd have to eat a ton of fruit to overdose on the natural sugar in it. The only thing I would agree with you on is it's better to eat the actual fruit then drink it in juice.
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Old 22-03-2016, 09:25
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You're missing the point. The sugar in fruit is not the same as refined sugar. It's natural. As I said in the post above you don't see overweight monkeys and other animals where friuit is a large part of their diet. You'd have to eat a ton of fruit to overdose on the natural sugar in it. The only thing I would agree with you on is it's better to eat the actual fruit then drink it in juice.
I'm not missing the point at all. Sugar is sugar, it doesn't matter if it's natural. I eat loads of chocolate and I'm not overweight but then how does that prove anything? No one is talking about overdosing on sugar. This is about smoothie drinks and the amount of sugar in them.
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Old 22-03-2016, 09:55
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I'm not missing the point at all. Sugar is sugar, it doesn't matter if it's natural. I eat loads of chocolate and I'm not overweight but then how does that prove anything? No one is talking about overdosing on sugar. This is about smoothie drinks and the amount of sugar in them.
For the last time (I'm getting rather bored) Sugar in fruit is not the same as refined sugar.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:13
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For the last time (I'm getting rather bored) Sugar in fruit is not the same as refined sugar.
I'm afraid you will have to continued to be bored then, because you are so very wrong.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:19
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Sugar is sugar. It's fact. Drinking a smoothie is only better for you due to the other health benefits fresh fruit drinks bring. The sugar content is around about the same as a can of coke or there abouts, doesn't matter if it's natural sugar, sugar is sugar. So the first point is not nonsense at all. I mentioned nothing about chocolate. The argument is over drinks. To get a glass of orange or smoothie you would need a lot of fruit which would then bring a lot of sugar. You'd be best eating a orange over drinking a glass of orange which would take 2 to 3 oranges to full the glass.
Are you talking better as in the general benefit or better sugar wise? Surely if you have the glass of orange which contains 3 oranges then you've had 3 of your 5 a day which is better than eating an orange and having 1 of your 5 a day?

I'm not really clued up fruit as I don't have a huge amount but I should probably have more and I'd prefer to drink it really.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:24
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I'm not missing the point at all. Sugar is sugar, it doesn't matter if it's natural. I eat loads of chocolate and I'm not overweight but then how does that prove anything? No one is talking about overdosing on sugar. This is about smoothie drinks and the amount of sugar in them.
I'm afraid you will have to continued to be bored then, because you are so very wrong.
Seriously. You honestly think natural sugar found in fruits and veggies is the same as cheap refined sugar in fizzy drinks and sweets? Unbelievable. Answer this, do you ever see fat monkeys in zoos? They have a diet consisting largely of fruit. You see fat humans though. Most of whom have a diet of processed crap.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:34
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For the last time (I'm getting rather bored) Sugar in fruit is not the same as refined sugar.
I never said it was. That said, sugar is sugar. It's all bad for you in the quantities you find in soft drinks or fresh fruit drinks. Just because it comes from a natural source doesn't mean it's any different for your health than refined sugar is.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:38
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Are you talking better as in the general benefit or better sugar wise? Surely if you have the glass of orange which contains 3 oranges then you've had 3 of your 5 a day which is better than eating an orange and having 1 of your 5 a day?

I'm not really clued up fruit as I don't have a huge amount but I should probably have more and I'd prefer to drink it really.
Fruit has tons of natural sugar in it. A glass of orange would take 2 to 3 oranges to fill up hence why you'd be consuming tons of sugar in one drink. It would be best to eat one orange which would probably fill you up just as much. I might be wrong but a glass of orange would only be 1 of your 5 a day even if it includes 3 oranges.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:44
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Seriously. You honestly think natural sugar found in fruits and veggies is the same as cheap refined sugar in fizzy drinks and sweets? Unbelievable. Answer this, do you ever see fat monkeys in zoos? They have a diet consisting largely of fruit. You see fat humans though. Most of whom have a diet of processed crap.
What you need to understand is sugar is sugar. It doesn't magically become better for you because the source of sugar is fruit. Fruit brings other health benefits and is healthier than processed foods or fizzy drinks. The sugar is just sugar don't be fooled into thinking natural sugar is good, it isn't. You need to stop talking about animals, it has nothing to do with smoothies and sugar.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:50
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Once a nutritionist pal explained to me that natural sugar was going to make me put on weight just as much as refined, if I had too much of it, it truly opened my eyes.

I used to drink a lot of fruit juice and smoothies. thinking they were healthy.

Now I only have a small glass of fruit juice every now and then and I am careful what ingredients I put into my blender for my smoothies.

I don't put much fruit in it, and pick the fruit with the least amount of sugar and top it up full of superfoods and protein.
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:52
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Seriously. You honestly think natural sugar found in fruits and veggies is the same as cheap refined sugar in fizzy drinks and sweets? Unbelievable. Answer this, do you ever see fat monkeys in zoos? They have a diet consisting largely of fruit. You see fat humans though. Most of whom have a diet of processed crap.
Not very well versed in biochemistry, are you?
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Old 22-03-2016, 10:53
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Fruit has tons of natural sugar in it. A glass of orange would take 2 to 3 oranges to fill up hence why you'd be consuming tons of sugar in one drink. It would be best to eat one orange which would probably fill you up just as much. I might be wrong but a glass of orange would only be 1 of your 5 a day even if it includes 3 oranges.
How does that work out? Surely if you're consuming 3 oranges you're consuming 3 of your 5 a day?
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:09
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Not very well versed in biochemistry, are you?
No. You're not.
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:21
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How does that work out? Surely if you're consuming 3 oranges you're consuming 3 of your 5 a day?
Only if eating I believe. Can't remember the reason why but I'm sure it's correct.
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Old 22-03-2016, 11:30
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What is this magic sugar in fruit then if it's not like the other sugar?
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Old 22-03-2016, 12:30
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Answer this, do you ever see fat monkeys in zoos? They have a diet consisting largely of fruit. You see fat humans though. Most of whom have a diet of processed crap.
We're talking about smoothies. If you fed a monkey on smoothies or fruit juice it would soon get fat because it would be able to consume and process far more sugar than it could possibly eat from consuming raw fruit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...doughnuts.html

Telling quote:

'If you're shouting at the screen "But it's a fruit juice", then you've got it all wrong...
It doesn't matter where the sugar comes from.
It matters that these sugars are pounding your liver without the fruit's natural fibres, which usually act as a barrier to stop the bombardment.'
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Old 22-03-2016, 12:46
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To be fair I actually have seen a fair few fat monkeys too.

This guy's no athlete:

http://fatnewsfeed.com/wordpress/wp-...an_auttg_2.jpg

Only if eating I believe. Can't remember the reason why but I'm sure it's correct.
I've just Googled it and you're right, not totally sure why though.
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