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Old 17-04-2016, 17:39
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Completely undeserved equaliser for Palace but doesn't that completely sum Arsenal up?
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:44
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1-0 up, completely comfortable in the game but not creating any good chances then they concede an equaliser. It's so typically Arsenal. I'm just surprised Adebayor didn't score.
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:48
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Arsenal will have to be really careful if this result stays the same, they'll drop below Man City and Man Utd will only be four points behind them for fourth.

They don't have the luxury of being able to coast out the rest of the season, they will have to get results from their last five games.
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:51
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Arsenal will have to be really careful if this result stays the same, they'll drop below Man City and Man Utd will only be four points behind them for fourth.

They don't have the luxury of being able to coast out the rest of the season, they will have to get results from their last five games.
How have they drawn this?

They do have a lovely run in though (City aside)
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:54
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arsenal are a joke
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:56
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So I think with Arsenal 13 behind with 5 to play I think that is their title challenge finally over.

Between Leicester and Spurs now.
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:57
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How have they drawn this?

They do have a lovely run in though (City aside)
Crystal Palace at home would have been seen as a win.
Swansea City at home would have been seen as a win.
Watford at home (in the cup) would have been seen as a win.

There are no 'easy games' as far as Arsenal are concerned.
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Old 17-04-2016, 17:58
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So I think with Arsenal 13 behind with 5 to play I think that is their title challenge finally over.

Between Leicester and Spurs now.
Until it's mathematically not possible Wenger wont agree
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Old 17-04-2016, 18:06
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Crystal Palace at home would have been seen as a win.
Swansea City at home would have been seen as a win.
Watford at home (in the cup) would have been seen as a win.

There are no 'easy games' as far as Arsenal are concerned.
Of course, but on paper it's an easy run-in!

They generally win matches when the pressure is off. They still aren't under real serious pressure for top 4 yet
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:01
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Arsenal are a very weird team.

They were under immense pressure against West Ham and Spurs, yet still performed well enough to nick two points. OK, the WH game isn't a good example because they led, but they looked better chasing a game than in their comfort zone.

If they win all their remaining home games, and nick a point at Sunderland and City, they'll do enough to finish in the top four. When they are under pressure to finish fourth and seal the job, they will give it 100%. Expected to go the distance in a title race and they'll buckle.

Their league form in calendar years is always Jekyll and Hyde. Good in 2013, bad in 2014, good in 2015, bad in 2016............
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:05
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Between Leicester and Spurs now.
Nah, it's Leicester's title. There's no way they're going to implode to the level needed for us to overtake them. If that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

I've been far more concerned about consolidating a top 3 place.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:08
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Apologies, I am sure this has been done many times before but what's the implication of Liverpool winning the EL. Do they take the 4th place or can we have 5 teams in it ?
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:10
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Nah, it's Leicester's title. There's no way they're going to implode to the level needed for us to overtake them. If that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

I've been far more concerned about consolidating a top 3 place.
It depends if Leicester lose at Man Utd then the gap could be closed to 2 points.

Chelsea realistically can't qualify for the EL now, so won't have much to play for against Spurs.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:13
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Apologies, I am sure this has been done many times before but what's the implication of Liverpool winning the EL. Do they take the 4th place or can we have 5 teams in it ?
We get an extra spot, same if City win the CL but don't finish in the top 4.

The only way 4th place loses out is if both City and Liverpool win the European trophies and don't finish in the top 4. They would both qualify along with the top 3, and I think the 3rd place team would have the playoff to qualify that 4th normally goes into.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:24
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It depends if Leicester lose at Man Utd then the gap could be closed to 2 points.

Chelsea realistically can't qualify for the EL now, so won't have much to play for against Spurs.
Leicester's luck and form is such that they won't blow it now. To use the usual cliche, their name is on the trophy.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:25
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We get an extra spot, same if City win the CL but don't finish in the top 4.

The only way 4th place loses out is if both City and Liverpool win the European trophies and don't finish in the top 4. They would both qualify along with the top 3, and I think the 3rd place team would have the playoff to qualify that 4th normally goes into.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:27
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It depends if Leicester lose at Man Utd then the gap could be closed to 2 points.

Chelsea realistically can't qualify for the EL now, so won't have much to play for against Spurs.
I think if the title race is still open the fans will demand a performance against Spurs.
Whether they get it us another story of course.
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:33
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Leicester's luck and form is such that they won't blow it now. To use the usual cliche, their name is on the trophy.
Agree, on another day West Ham would have gone 2-0 up today. I don't know how that first chance stayed out and that looked a huge penalty shout before Vardy's goal.

2-1 down with ten men heading into injury time and their two main goal threats off the field, they really needed to be literally handed a chance to level it and that's exactly what happened

I definitely see it as a crucial point, which felt like more at the final whistle
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Old 17-04-2016, 19:33
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It depends if Leicester lose at Man Utd then the gap could be closed to 2 points.

Chelsea realistically can't qualify for the EL now, so won't have much to play for against Spurs.
Or against leicester...
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:29
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We get an extra spot, same if City win the CL but don't finish in the top 4.

The only way 4th place loses out is if both City and Liverpool win the European trophies and don't finish in the top 4. They would both qualify along with the top 3, and I think the 3rd place team would have the playoff to qualify that 4th normally goes into.
You sure?, then why did Spurs lose out when Chelsea won the CL in 2012?

We defiinitely get 5 spots if Liverpool with the EL and finish outside top4 as Spain got that this year with Sevilla.
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:30
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It depends if Leicester lose at Man Utd then the gap could be closed to 2 points.

Chelsea realistically can't qualify for the EL now, so won't have much to play for against Spurs.
Chelsea will be up for that match, they won't want Spurs to win the title.
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:37
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So they need 2 wins and 2 draws or 3 wins from 4 games. of which 2 are away at man u and chelsea. Tottenham only really have away at chelsea to win

I still think leicester will do it, they didnt blow it today. They should have won but being down to 10 men made it a good result
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:41
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Chelsea will be up for that match, they won't want Spurs to win the title.
Just what I was thinking. And for the same reason Chelsea are hardly likely to break into a sweat against Leicester to help Spurs win the title.
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:44
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A lot of players wont want to get injured and risk missing the Euro Championships as well
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Old 17-04-2016, 20:45
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Just what I was thinking. And for the same reason Chelsea are hardly likely to break into a sweat against Leicester to help Spurs win the title.
there are so many cases where this doesnt happen i dont believe it. Especially since most players are foreigners nowadays
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