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Old 18-04-2016, 21:39
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Stoke defenders now amusing themselves playing musical statues.. Premier League integrity my ****.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:40
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This is a right tonking, now. Another good goal.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:41
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I really hope Deli Alli dont get injured just before the Euros start
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:42
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Now that the dust has settled and emotions are less raw what do people think of Moss's decisions in retrospect? On an objective basis

My 2c after sleeping on it

- I think WH should have had a penalty just before Vardy goal
- Vardy's first yellow was an awful harsh decision
- Vardy definitely initiated contact for the penalty claim and it definitely wasn't a penalty. Giving a yellow was very harsh in the circumstances I thought but he did try and buy it..
- Morgan and Huth had been warned, and I honestly do think Morgan left Moss with no option
- Foul on Huth in WH box was a stone-waller
- Leicester's penalty was an atrocious decision and a real cop-out

It probably balanced out in the end

So, was it a point gained or two dropped?

Definitely one gained for me- in the circumstances and given the late stage of the season

I think perspective is needed here and the game needs to be looked at as part of a wider picture

- when they lost to Arsenal, leicester fans (and newly acquired fans like myself ) would have given their left leg for 20 out of the next 24 points
- When they drew with WBA, they would have bit your hand off for 16 out of the next 18 pts
- They would have bitten off whatever else was available for a 5 point lead going into the last 4 matches, at any stage!
- I suspect they would have gladly taken 7 from 9 points since the international break too in 3 awkward fixtures

And based on the match itself, yes they were 1-0 up and creating a chance or two with Vardy still on but I was starting to sense they were hanging on a bit. Set pieces were causing them trouble and Morgan/Huth were on a fine-line throughout. 2-1 down with ten men playing against the 5th/6th best team in the league heading into injury time, to snatch a draw has to be seen as a point gained imo. The manner in which they were handed the lifeline and after watching that early WH chance somehow stay out... you just get the sense their "name is on the trophy" and all that.

Onto the crucial swansea game now. Beat them like they should and I can't see them not winning the league
Vardy's first yellow - correct - if you factor in the foul a couple of minutes before that and then sliding in late for this, albeit with little contact.

Vardy's second yellow - Absolutely blatant. If yellow cards for diving do not apply to dives like that, I don't know what they are for.

The West Ham penalty - Correct. They showed about five examples on MOTD 2 of "So why are these not penalties". For me none were more definite than Morgan's foul. Reid was running along and Morgan was running with both hands around his waist and the ball was nowhere near him.

Of all the rest, I don't like tugging in the box so I tend to fall on the side of penalty more often than not but a lot of the others were 50/50 tussles and wrestling. The difference with the foul on Huth was he and Ogbonna were stood still and never went anywhere, whereas Morgan impeded the run.

Carroll was clumsy and should not have got near Schlupp but it was a dive and not a penalty.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:42
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Yes but Tottenham would to have Aguero Silva or a De Bruyne or a Diego Costa, Hazard or a Fabregas from Chelsea
True but you are seeing tonight how the good Spurs are I don't think they would swap Kane or Ali for any of those.

The problem will be when a 100 million joint bid comes in for Kane and Ali from Real Madrid and the try to offload bale as part of the deal
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:45
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Stoke have been dreadful.

Spurs, superb. Poch has prepared them brilliantly.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:50
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Suppose Leicester blow this and Tottenham wins the title....

First league triumph since 1961 and after years of staying in the 4th-6th range they have the potential to finish the season with 80 pts with a manager who figures to be one of the best in the world already, at least to me.

It's not a Leicester fairy tale, but it'd be a very impressive feat if they pull it off, as I doubt many here would've backed them to win the title before the season started.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:52
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Suppose Leicester blow this and Tottenham wins the title....

First league triumph since 1961 and after years of staying in the 4th-6th range they have the potential to finish the season with 80 pts with a manager who figures to be one of the best in the world already, at least to me.

It's not a Leicester fairy tale, but it'd be a very impressive feat if they pull it off, as I doubt many here would've backed them to win the title before the season started.
It'd be great for the league and probably the biggest achievement of the PL era. Not many would have had them finishing top 4

Wouldn't begrudge them

If Leicester can't beat Swansea, Everton and Chelsea who are all on holidays then there can be no complaints
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:52
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Suppose Leicester blow this and Tottenham wins the title....

First league triumph since 1961 and after years of staying in the 4th-6th range they have the potential to finish the season with 80 pts with a manager who figures to be one of the best in the world already, at least to me.

It's not a Leicester fairy tale, but it'd be a very impressive feat if they pull it off, as I doubt many here would've backed them to win the title before the season started.
I agree with that Spurs have not the credit they have had deserved for the season they have had.

From always being in Europa league spots to taking the title to the wire they haven't had the credit they have deserved
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:54
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Might come down to the final day which could result in a bit of a bizarre scenario where Newcastle might end up being a tougher game than Chelsea
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:54
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Outstanding result & performance from Spurs. Keeps things interesting.
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:55
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The crucial game will be the Man United game, if Leicester can get a point then they only need to beat Everton and they will win the title
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:56
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Might come down to the final day which could result in a bit of a bizarre scenario where Newcastle might end up being a tougher game than Chelsea
I have a feeling Chelsea will be up for it when they play Spurs but if it goes to the last days they will be on their holidays
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:56
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The crucial game will the Man United game if Leicester can get a point then they only need to beat Everton and they will win the title
well no not really

That's still assuming leicester beat Swansea and Spurs drop points themselves before Leicester play everton
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:57
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It'll go to the final day if Leicester lose one game I think.

Think Chelsea will be the decider for Spurs. As for Leicester, need to beat Swansea!
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:58
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I have a feeling Chelsea will be up for it when they play Spurs but if it goes to the last days they will be on their holidays
I'd imagine Chelsea will throw out plenty younger players in last game or two aswell

Still think Spurs will drop points somewhere. There could well be a game where things go against them
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:58
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well no not really

That's still assuming leicester beat Swansea and Spurs drop points themselves before Leicester play everton
Don't think Swansea will really be up for it to be honest but Leicester will get another win.

Spurs will probably give west brom a hiding
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Old 18-04-2016, 21:59
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well no not really

That's still assuming leicester beat Swansea and Spurs drop points themselves before Leicester play everton
Well the Chelsea game is the tough one out of all the fixtures and anything other than a win Leicester then can win the league in front of their own fans
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:01
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It'd be great for the league and probably the biggest achievement of the PL era. Not many would have had them finishing top 4

Wouldn't begrudge them

If Leicester can't beat Swansea, Everton and Chelsea who are all on holidays then there can be no complaints
Another aspect of this, not one of Tottenham's outfield players is set to turn 30 this year. The oldest player on the squad is Vorm, who's only 32 and not even the starting GK. Lloris is 29 but turns 30 at the end of December.

Their wage bill is somewhere around 6th but nowhere close to the big clubs and their spending. Lots of incredibly young talent, particularly their home-grown developed players, plus much wiser spending, Pochettino, etc. has led to this remarkable success for them.

That said, still want Leicester to win.
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:02
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As said a couple of weeks ago,p if Leicester go into the last three games with a 4 or 5 point lead, then suddenly a run in with man united and Chelsea looks tough again.

The top two keep impressing week in week out in general with performances and results
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:03
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Don't think Swansea will really be up for it to be honest but Leicester will get another win.

Spurs will probably give west brom a hiding
yep, should be as you were this time next week

If either drop points next week they can have no complaints if they lose the league barring extreme circumstances like 2 or 3 wrongful penalties/sendings off
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:05
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Going right to the wire this..

My forecast
GW35 // Leicester draw (v Swansea), Spurs win (v WBA)
Leic 74 Spurs 71

GW36 // Leicester loss (v Man U), Spurs draw (v Chelsea)
Leic 74 Spurs 72

GW37 // Leicester win (v Everton), Spurs win (v Soton)
Leic 77 Spurs 75

GW38 // Leicester loss (v Chelsea), Spurs draw (v Newc)
Leic 77 Spurs 76
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:08
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It's going to the last game, as it's always looked likely to.
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:08
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Fabregas as a pundit where did that come from never saw the start of the show
I loved it when Ed Chamberlain asked him if you think there will another twist in the title race and Fabregas replied, I hope not because i dont want Tottenham to win the league
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Old 18-04-2016, 22:10
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Spurs look like a team who are told to go out & enjoy themselves.
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