Originally Posted by Steven88:
“Those Man City centre backs cost £60m between them.”
“Those Man City centre backs cost £60m between them.”
And Sterling alone cost some £49 million.
The expression money to burn springs to mind.
Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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This season the Premier League has shown that you dont need to spend big to become sucessful. It is all about identifying the right players that will be good for your team, not splashing huge amounts of money for players who are either not good enough or are overrated
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“How much would they get for them now?
Some huge level of depreciation I think!”
“How much would they get for them now?
Some huge level of depreciation I think!”
It's one of the reasons why I do wish souness would explain why he thinks city still have the best squad, they have the most expensively assembled one but that is not the same thing
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“It's one of the reasons why I do wish souness would explain why he thinks city still have the best squad, they have the most expensively assembled one but that is not the same thing”
“It's one of the reasons why I do wish souness would explain why he thinks city still have the best squad, they have the most expensively assembled one but that is not the same thing”
Do you think these big clubs need to copy Leicester Citys scouting network, as they can find good players without breaking the bank and i remember Arsenal used to do it when they got Patrick Vieira and Emmanuel Petit for little or nothing
I heard that this could be the season that resets the premier league and that clubs dont have to go out and spend vast amounts on players to achieve success. When the transfer window opens we will see whether that is the case
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Do you think these big clubs need to copy Leicester Citys scouting network, as they can find good players without breaking the bank and i remember Arsenal used to do it when they got Patrick Vieira and Emmanuel Petit for little or nothing”
“Do you think these big clubs need to copy Leicester Citys scouting network, as they can find good players without breaking the bank and i remember Arsenal used to do it when they got Patrick Vieira and Emmanuel Petit for little or nothing”
Yes very much so and who is to say that someone else won't do a Leicester next season.
I also don't think it's a given that normal service will resume next season either.
Man united have been in steady decline last few years , Chelsea have had a massive decline and it may be a gradual climb back to the top if at all, city's squad is aging, Arsenal are just Arsenal.
Liverpool really not sure if real top players will sign for them and not sure how they get out of their 7th place type level next season.
Spurs have the best squad and probably the best scouting network and for me will be the team to beat next season
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“It's one of the reasons why I do wish souness would explain why he thinks city still have the best squad, they have the most expensively assembled one but that is not the same thing”
“It's one of the reasons why I do wish souness would explain why he thinks city still have the best squad, they have the most expensively assembled one but that is not the same thing”
Oh I am in full agreement with you on that point.
City have perhaps three players that are of a sufficient calibre to build around (Aguero, De Bruyne and the young Nigerian striker), the rest are just expensive players, that don't offer much value for money at all.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh I am in full agreement with you on that point.
City have perhaps three players that are of a sufficient calibre to build around (Aguero, De Bruyne and the young Nigerian striker), the rest are just expensive players, that don't offer much value for money at all.”
“Oh I am in full agreement with you on that point.
City have perhaps three players that are of a sufficient calibre to build around (Aguero, De Bruyne and the young Nigerian striker), the rest are just expensive players, that don't offer much value for money at all.”
Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.
Originally Posted by Sebastian1992:
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
Zabaletta is aging and hardly one for the future
David silva is inconsistent and in 30s now as well
Joe hart is vastly overrated by the uk media and is prone to blunders in big games
Originally Posted by Sebastian1992:
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
No bias, Hart is a very good goalkeeper, and someone that I hope does well this summer, however he does have a tendency to get beat at his near post far too often for a top or elite level keeper for me.
Zabaleta was a top player, and one of, if not the best full-back's in the league for the past few years/seasons, but perhaps that is catching up with him now.
He is still very good, but he wouldn't be someone that I would be relying upon, if I were looking to build a team to try and win a league title anymore.
Silva is a tough one, as in some ways De Bruyne has stolen his thunder; he used to be the player that everyone raved about, and praised to the high heavens, but now, not so much.
He is obviously still a very high calibre of player, but he hasn't done all that much this season to live up to his star billing.
He is someone, just like Sterling, who needs to up his game next season.
By using the term "on his day", to describe Silva just goes to show, how far his standards have slipped or dipped.
Originally Posted by Sebastian1992:
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
Zabas best days are behind him by the looks of it, plus Silva has been off the boil the second half of the season. Hoping it's not a permanent decline with him.
Fernandinho is immense for us though. A lot of the others will be moving on in the summer I think.
It's still hard to decide if it's the manager or players who are responsible for this poor PL campaign, probably abit of both.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“No bias, Hart is a very good goalkeeper, and someone that I hope does well this summer, however he does have a tendency to get beat at his near post far too often for a top or elite level keeper for me.
Zabaleta was a top player, and one of, if not the best full-back's in the league for the past few years/seasons, but perhaps that is catching up with him now.
He is still very good, but he wouldn't be someone that I would be relying upon, if I were looking to build a team to try and win a league title anymore.
Silva is a tough one, as in some ways De Bruyne has stolen his thunder; he used to be the player that everyone raved about, and praised to the high heavens, but now, not so much.
He is obviously still a very high calibre of player, but he hasn't done all that much this season to live up to his star billing.
He is someone, just like Sterling, who needs to up his game next season.
By using the term "on his day", to describe Silva just goes to show, how far his standards have slipped or dipped.”
“No bias, Hart is a very good goalkeeper, and someone that I hope does well this summer, however he does have a tendency to get beat at his near post far too often for a top or elite level keeper for me.
Zabaleta was a top player, and one of, if not the best full-back's in the league for the past few years/seasons, but perhaps that is catching up with him now.
He is still very good, but he wouldn't be someone that I would be relying upon, if I were looking to build a team to try and win a league title anymore.
Silva is a tough one, as in some ways De Bruyne has stolen his thunder; he used to be the player that everyone raved about, and praised to the high heavens, but now, not so much.
He is obviously still a very high calibre of player, but he hasn't done all that much this season to live up to his star billing.
He is someone, just like Sterling, who needs to up his game next season.
By using the term "on his day", to describe Silva just goes to show, how far his standards have slipped or dipped.”
Manchester evening news could not understand why he was not listed in team of the season.
I appreciate having to play to a local audience but clearly a team of the year would Be dominated by Spurs and Leicester players
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Zabaletta is aging and hardly one for the future
David silva is inconsistent and in 30s now as well
Joe hart is vastly overrated by the uk media and is prone to blunders in big games”
“Zabaletta is aging and hardly one for the future
David silva is inconsistent and in 30s now as well
Joe hart is vastly overrated by the uk media and is prone to blunders in big games”
Hart pretty much always shows up for us in big games, especially CL ones
City are still relying to a degree on the spine that brought them so much success (Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, and Aguero), the fact that they are more or less in decline has not helped them (Aguero might not be in decline, but him being out of the side so often due to injuries, certainly does not help them).
Out of their possible replacements, only De Bruyne and the Nigerian striker, have come in and been a success, the defenders are a big worry, and there isn't much back up to Hart.
There is still much work to be done, if they wish to get back to the very top once again
Out of their possible replacements, only De Bruyne and the Nigerian striker, have come in and been a success, the defenders are a big worry, and there isn't much back up to Hart.
There is still much work to be done, if they wish to get back to the very top once again
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Manchester evening news could not understand why he was not listed in team of the season. I appreciate having to play to a local audience but clearly a team of the year would Be dominated by Spurs and Leicester players”
“Manchester evening news could not understand why he was not listed in team of the season.
I appreciate having to play to a local audience but clearly a team of the year would Be dominated by Spurs and Leicester players”
Sorry which player did they think should be in the team of the year?
Silva do you mean? If so, there is no reason at all to push his name forward ahead of Kante or Ali for example, even Ozil has probably had a better season.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“City are still relying to a degree on the spine that brought them so much success (Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, and Aguero), the fact that they are more or less in decline has not helped them (Aguero might not be in decline, but him being out of the side so often due to injuries, certainly does not help them).
Out of their possible replacements, only De Bruyne and the Nigerian striker, have come in and been a success, the defenders are a big worry, and there isn't much back up to Hart.
There is still much work to be done, if they wish to get back to the very top once again”
“City are still relying to a degree on the spine that brought them so much success (Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, and Aguero), the fact that they are more or less in decline has not helped them (Aguero might not be in decline, but him being out of the side so often due to injuries, certainly does not help them).
Out of their possible replacements, only De Bruyne and the Nigerian striker, have come in and been a success, the defenders are a big worry, and there isn't much back up to Hart.
There is still much work to be done, if they wish to get back to the very top once again”
Are you struggling with his name?
Iheanacho or just Nacho if you want to keep it short.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Sorry which player did they think should be in the team of the year?
Silva do you mean? If so, there is no reason at all to push his name forward ahead of Kante or Ali for example, even Ozil has probably had a better season.”
“Sorry which player did they think should be in the team of the year?
Silva do you mean? If so, there is no reason at all to push his name forward ahead of Kante or Ali for example, even Ozil has probably had a better season.”
Assuming he meant De Bruyne, couldn't really argue too much with the team that was chosen.
Originally Posted by Sebastian1992:
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
“Joe Hart is a good enough goalkeeper at that level.
Zabaleta is also fantastic.
David Silva on his day is awesome.
Think your club bias is showing.”
Zabaleta cant hold down a first team place
And David Silva is only awesome on his day when he is not injured
Originally Posted by Big Poy:
“Are you struggling with his name?
Iheanacho or just Nacho if you want to keep it short.”
“Are you struggling with his name?
Iheanacho or just Nacho if you want to keep it short.”
Sorry, yeah I was, Nacho it will be then.
Originally Posted by Big Poy:
“Assuming he meant De Bruyne, couldn't really argue too much with the team that was chosen.”
“Assuming he meant De Bruyne, couldn't really argue too much with the team that was chosen.”
Ahh sorry, De Bruyne has done very well, but his long injury lay off, meant that he just didn't play enough to warrant a place.
Man City still has the best squad in the league, but it seems Pellegrini just cant get the best out of some of the players especially Sterling and the expensive defenders. Maybe Guardiola coming in will get them to play at their full potential
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“City are a strange side somehom in the champions league semi yet in the majority of away games they look absolutely dire.
I think this city squad needs a complete overhaul”
“City are a strange side somehom in the champions league semi yet in the majority of away games they look absolutely dire.
I think this city squad needs a complete overhaul”
For a side with so much money at the disposal and spent, how they are still going into matches with Clichy, Nasri, Demechelis and Bony is beyond me.
Sagna, Mangala, Navas, Fernando and Fernandinho aren't a significant level above that either.
Most of those would struggle to get into the squad, not only the team of any comparable club to them in Europe.
I think Silva's best days may be behind him and Fellaini apart, Sterling must be one of the only players to not seem to worth 1/4 of his transfer fee on current form.
They should be shipping out close to double figures in senior players this close season.
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“For a side with so much money at the disposal and spent, how they are still going into matches with Clichy, Nasri, Demechelis and Bony is beyond me.
Sagna, Mangala, Navas, Fernando and Fernandinho aren't a significant level above that either.
Most of those would struggle to get into the squad, not only the team of any comparable club to them in Europe.
I think Silva's best days may be behind him and Fellaini apart, Sterling must be one of the only players to not seem to worth 1/4 of his transfer fee on current form.
They should be shipping out close to double figures in senior players this close season.”
“For a side with so much money at the disposal and spent, how they are still going into matches with Clichy, Nasri, Demechelis and Bony is beyond me.
Sagna, Mangala, Navas, Fernando and Fernandinho aren't a significant level above that either.
Most of those would struggle to get into the squad, not only the team of any comparable club to them in Europe.
I think Silva's best days may be behind him and Fellaini apart, Sterling must be one of the only players to not seem to worth 1/4 of his transfer fee on current form.
They should be shipping out close to double figures in senior players this close season.”
Exactly, which is why I find statements about them having the best squad baffling, they don't, far from it.
Buying a lot of average players for a lot of money, does not mean it equate to a strong or good squad.
There are a lot of sub par players in their squad.
I think this TV money coming for next season is actually not helping these big clubs as they have got so much money, they dont know what to do with it, so they go after a top player they think they need and are happy to pay over the odds for him
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