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Lukaku does get very good service most of the time, and he does have quality players around him...Everton have got a very good team, this is not a poor Everton team by anyone's standards...which is why they are considered underachieving, they have some seriously talented players.
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If they had a "very good team" they'd be challenging for the title, why do some people go overboard when talking about Everton? They're an average team in the position they should be in.
One wouldn't look at the Chelsea team and league position and come to the conclusion that they have not got quality players.. Just as one wouldn't look at Leicester and say they have better players than the teams around them. |
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If they had a "very good team" they'd be challenging for the title, why do some people go overboard when talking about Everton? They're an average team in the position they should be in.
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Everton are as close to Aston Villa as they are Leicester. The league doesn't lie, that's average.
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Everton's league position doesn't mean they don't have very good players. One could argue Martinez should get more from them.
One wouldn't look at the Chelsea team and league position and come to the conclusion that they have not got quality players.. Just as one wouldn't look at Leicester and say they have better players than the teams around them. |
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Maybe because they are not an average team....they should certainly be challenging for the 4th spot and Europa league places....not mid table. With the way this season is then yes they should be challenging for the title, and if they had closed shop rather than keep attacking then I have no doubt they would be.
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At the start of the season Everton were eight favourites to win the PL at odds of 250-1 and eighth favourites to finish in the top 4 at odds of 16-1, so the Europa League should be their realistic aim. Maybe they should be doing better, but they're far away from being a side good enough to challenge for the title.
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It's going to be interesting to see what they can do with the new money coming into the club. Right now I think they have the bones of a very good side. Could do with three or four players to tighten them up - particularly another striker to provide competition and support for Lukaku, someone with a little more presence than Cleverley in the middle, and a new goalkeeper. I think Martinez will be lucky to hold on to the job, tbh. If the new owners are an ambitious lot they're going to want someone with a better record than him.
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It's going to be interesting to see what they can do with the new money coming into the club. Right now I think they have the bones of a very good side. Could do with three or four players to tighten them up - particularly another striker to provide competition and support for Lukaku, someone with a little more presence than Cleverley in the middle, and a new goalkeeper. I think Martinez will be lucky to hold on to the job, tbh. If the new owners are an ambitious lot they're going to want someone with a better record than him.
They've got some good players there, there's real potential in that side, and with some investment they could go far. I don't think Martinez is the man to take them to the next level though. |
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Everton's Premier league record this season:
They have scored 51 goals, the same as Tottenham and one less than Leicester. They have lost once away from home, the best record in the Premier League. That's title-winning form. However they have lost seven times at home. Only Palace and Villa have done worse. And they've conceded 26 goals at home, worst record in the Premier League, even worse than Villa who have conceded 23. That's relegation form. So there's why they're mid-table. |
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Talk about Jekyll and Hyde!
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Everton's league position doesn't mean they don't have very good players. One could argue Martinez should get more from them.
One wouldn't look at the Chelsea team and league position and come to the conclusion that they have not got quality players.. Just as one wouldn't look at Leicester and say they have better players than the teams around them. |
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Everton's Premier league record this season:
They have scored 51 goals, the same as Tottenham and one less than Leicester. They have lost once away from home, the best record in the Premier League. That's title-winning form. However they have lost seven times at home. Only Palace and Villa have done worse. And they've conceded 26 goals at home, worst record in the Premier League, even worse than Villa who have conceded 23. That's relegation form. So there's why they're mid-table. |
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Arsenal's young CB Chambers has got great technique for a central defender.
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How Gabriel wasn't sent off for that assault I have no idea. Shocking ref Andre Marriner.
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I just do not understand how mariner missed a two footed off the ground studs up "tackle" on,y three yards in front of him!
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Interesting to see sell styled warrior Troy Deaney getting some of the rough treatment he enjoys dishing out
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How Gabriel wasn't sent off for that assault I have no idea. Shocking ref Andre Marriner.
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Interesting to see sell styled warrior Troy Deaney getting some of the rough treatment he enjoys dishing out
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I just do not understand how mariner missed a two footed off the ground studs up "tackle" on,y three yards in front of him!
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As the ref didn't even give a yellow, I wonder if the fa will take retrospective action?
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As I've just touched on , The guy on end of the 'tackle' plays on the edge so you live and die by the sword , so to speak.
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It doesn't matter, it was as clear a red card right in front of the Ref as you will ever get.
They both went in 100% at great speed , someone was bound to get hurt. |
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Another gabriel tackle missed by the ref, he should be on a red and yellow!
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Anyway the refs just even things out by not giving Arsenal a certain penalty.
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. It's only a few weeks ago he was bragging about bullying the Liverpool CBs and saying they weren't up for a battle,