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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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batdude_uk1
04-05-2016
From Coventry to America, Joe Cole has signed for the Rowdies!

https://twitter.com/TampaBayRowdies/...123126272?s=09
TheMunch
05-05-2016
Seems both Fellaini and Huth have been banned for three games for elbowing and hair pulling.
Jim De Ville
05-05-2016
3 games? Seems excessive, especially for Huth.

Makes you wonder what Dembele will get.
TheMunch
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“3 games? Seems excessive, especially for Huth.

Makes you wonder what Dembele will get.”

Yeah I thought that, about Huth at least. I mean thought that about Fellaini but could sort of understand, not hair pulling.
batdude_uk1
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“3 games? Seems excessive, especially for Huth.

Makes you wonder what Dembele will get.”

Talk of an eight game ban I heard.
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“3 games? Seems excessive, especially for Huth.

Makes you wonder what Dembele will get.”

Interesting to look at how eye gouging is dealt with in Rugby Union, where it tends to occur far more frequently than in football,

The regulations provide a scale of seriousness:

Lower end: up to 12-week ban.
Mid range: up to 18-week ban.
Top end: greater than 24-week ban.

The maximum sanction is a 156-week (3 year) ban.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye-go...rugby_union%29

Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Yeah I thought that, about Huth at least. I mean thought that about Fellaini but could sort of understand, not hair pulling.”

It's not just hair pulling v elbowing in the mush; it is that Fellaini is a serial offender, seemingly unaware, at Everton and now at United, that elbowing other players in the face is not a normal part of the game.
CGG_12
05-05-2016
Three games is mad for Huth

Do these bans apply for International or only domestic matches?

Huth will only miss opening game of the season if so

Dembele will definitely get a big stretch
TheMunch
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Three games is mad for Huth

Do these bans apply for International or only domestic matches?

Huth will only miss opening game of the season if so

Dembele will definitely get a big stretch”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36207252

Huth, 29, will miss the Premier League champions' final two games and their first league fixture of next season.

The Germany defender will be available to play in the season-opening Community Shield match.
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Three games is mad for Huth

Do these bans apply for International or only domestic matches?

Huth will only miss opening game of the season if so

Dembele will definitely get a big stretch”

The FA said the nature of Dembélé’s action was such that the usual three-match violent-conduct suspension “is clearly insufficient”, meaning the midfielder may miss a stretch of games at the beginning of next season.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...lsea-fa-charge

Quite right too.
batdude_uk1
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Three games is mad for Huth

Do these bans apply for International or only domestic matches?

Huth will only miss opening game of the season if so

Dembele will definitely get a big stretch”

It might seem overly harsh for Huth, but then again since when is hair pulling part of the game?
It should not be acceptable to that, it is not defending or anything like that, so in a way I can see where they are coming from with these bans.
misawa97
05-05-2016
How do they come to the conclusion that Huth and Fellani's actions were as bad as each other?
Stilton Cheesew
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“It might seem overly harsh for Huth, but then again since when is hair pulling part of the game?
It should not be acceptable to that, it is not defending or anything like that, so in a way I can see where they are coming from with these bans.”

It's not dangerous nor causes injury so it seems excessively harsh.
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“How do they come to the conclusion that Huth and Fellani's actions were as bad as each other?”

In time honoured fashion the FA pulled the judgement from deep up its backside. I have more or less given up expecting anything better from them. There is possibly a handful of people who would have come to the same conclusion and I would hate to be trapped in a lift with any of them.
batdude_uk1
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“It's not dangerous nor causes injury so it seems excessively harsh.”

Does a punishment have to based on the severity of the injury?

Hair pulling is not part of the game, nor should it be, so anything that helps to get it out of the game, the better I say.
Stilton Cheesew
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Does a punishment have to based on the severity of the injury?

Hair pulling is not part of the game, nor should it be, so anything that helps to get it out of the game, the better I say.”

Not the severity of the injury, no, but 3 games for something that is no more than petty seems a bit much. There are many minor things that go on in games that arent part of the game but they don't all carry a retrospective ban. Seems like a lack of common sense to me.
MichPlat
05-05-2016
Any news on the Simeone incident where he whacked that poor touch-line guy on the arm the other night ?? It was shown and repeated on TV and it's all over Google and uTube ..
NorthernNinny
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“It's not dangerous nor causes injury so it seems excessively harsh.”

It could have been if he pulled some clumps of hair out. He shouldn't have done it. It's about time the antagoniser was punished equally.

This doesn't justify Fellani's reaction however before anyone suggests that I feel it does,
Stilton Cheesew
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“It could have been if he pulled some clumps of hair out. He shouldn't have done it. It's about time the antagoniser was punished equally.

This doesn't justify Fellani's reaction however before anyone suggests that I feel it does,”

I feel you are blowing it out of all proportion. Huth pulled his hair, he's a grown man, he should be able to brush it off for the small annoyance that it is. If it's a 3 game ban then what are the proper dangerous offences worth??
yellowlabbie
05-05-2016
I really dislike Fellini, he is a prolific cheat. Elbowing is very dangerous, he is lucky he has not seriously hurt anyone.
sodavlac
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“How do they come to the conclusion that Huth and Fellani's actions were as bad as each other?”

How have you come to the conclusion that they think they were? I'd be surprised if they did.

A 3 game ban is the standard for violent conduct and that covers a fairly wide spectrum of things. It's rare for it to be anything but that.

Can remember Ben Thatcher, Suarez and now possibly Demebele getting more, and I think a Chelsea player in the last year or two successfully argued one down to 2 games which migh've been a first, but other than that they're almost always for 3.

Edit: The Chelsea one was Matic against Burnley from last season.
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by MichPlat:
“Any news on the Simeone incident where he whacked that poor touch-line guy on the arm the other night ?? It was shown and repeated on TV and it's all over Google and uTube ..”

AFAIK the guy is a member of the Atletico team staff, not an official, so it will probably be dealt with as an internal club matter.
misawa97
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by sodavlac:
“How have you come to the conclusion that they think they were? I'd be surprised if they did.

A 3 game ban is the standard for violent conduct and that covers a fairly wide spectrum of things. It's rare for it to be anything but that.

Can remember Ben Thatcher, Suarez and now possibly Demebele getting more, and I think a Chelsea player in the last year or two successfully argued one down to 2 games which migh've been a first, but other than that they're almost always for 3.

Edit: The Chelsea one was Matic against Burnley from last season.”

Well I would say elbows should cover more than just the standard violent conduct 3 game ban. I said at the time when Suarez bit Ivanovic that given a choice out of that or an elbow to the face I would take the nibble everytime.
zieler
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by sodavlac:
“How have you come to the conclusion that they think they were? I'd be surprised if they did.

A 3 game ban is the standard for violent conduct and that covers a fairly wide spectrum of things. It's rare for it to be anything but that.

Can remember Ben Thatcher, Suarez and now possibly Demebele getting more, and I think a Chelsea player in the last year or two successfully argued one down to 2 games which migh've been a first, but other than that they're almost always for 3.

Edit: The Chelsea one was Matic against Burnley from last season.”

Fabregas also had his ban reduced after he kicked the ball at Brunt. Guess they might not have been willing to do so this time though as he didn't get sent off on the pitch.
CGG_12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“It might seem overly harsh for Huth, but then again since when is hair pulling part of the game?
It should not be acceptable to that, it is not defending or anything like that, so in a way I can see where they are coming from with these bans.”

The black and white world of Batdude!

A ban deserved? Yes
A Three match ban deserved? Absolutely not
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Just heard on ITV News some tickets for Leicester's home game against Everton "changing hands for up to £8000"
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