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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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NorthernNinny
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Well I would say elbows should cover more than just the standard violent conduct 3 game ban. I said at the time when Suarez bit Ivanovic that given a choice out of that or an elbow to the face I would take the nibble everytime.”

Biting another player is off the scale scumbag behaviour,as is gobbing on someone.
U.R.Correct
05-05-2016
Will Huth be allowed onto the pitch to lift the trophy and receive his medal ?

ETA and will he be allowed to wear the kit for the team photos of it ?
misawa97
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“Biting another player is off the scale scumbag behaviour,as is gobbing on someone.”

Not disputing that but as I said given a choice I think an elbow to the face does a lot more damage.
sodavlac
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Well I would say elbows should cover more than just the standard violent conduct 3 game ban. I said at the time when Suarez bit Ivanovic that given a choice out of that or an elbow to the face I would take the nibble everytime.”

Yes, a more nuanced approached with a broader range of punishments would definitely be worth looking into.

I suppose the danger they might face is if they gave player A 4 games for a certain thing, and player B 3 games for something else. If player C then does something that falls between the what player A and B did, with some similar elements to both then what do they do? Might cause controversey and appeals whichever way they went when. In many ways it's easier to just give the same bog standard 3 match ban nearly all the time with the odd rare exception.

Still, think it could be worth trying.
NorthernNinny
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Not disputing that but as I said given a choice I think an elbow to the face does a lot more damage.”

It's not that it causes less damage , biting or spitting is disgusting and can also transmit serious diseases.
alfamale
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by sodavlac:
“How have you come to the conclusion that they think they were? I'd be surprised if they did.

A 3 game ban is the standard for violent conduct and that covers a fairly wide spectrum of things. It's rare for it to be anything but that.

Can remember Ben Thatcher, Suarez and now possibly Demebele getting more, and I think a Chelsea player in the last year or two successfully argued one down to 2 games which migh've been a first, but other than that they're almost always for 3.

Edit: The Chelsea one was Matic against Burnley from last season.”

Bib, amazed this needed stating as its such common knowledge. And yes the range is huge and is always 3 games unless its so severe the FA step in. Here's Aliediere getting 3 matches for this little slap, then increased to 4 matches by the FA due to Boro's "frivolous appeal" against this red card.

https://youtu.be/HrxgMHp9uco?t=32s
alfamale
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Seems both Fellaini and Huth have been banned for three games for elbowing and hair pulling.”

I thought these two had history, but remembered wrong. Huth was on the pitch playing for Stoke but it was Shawcross that Fellaini kept flattening in this old match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypPMMvc33FY
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
"Liverpool as a club have an extraordinary squad of footballers when you consider Benteke cost the whole turnover as Villarreal as a club," said Villarreal manager Marcelino

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36126028

Didn't realise there was such a gap between the sides.
leicslad46
05-05-2016
United are fortunate that the three match ban will be cover the last three of this season. While with regards to the champions huths ban will be carried over to next season. If the community shield is a competitive game surely that would be the third game and not the opening league match. Is that fair
TheMunch
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“United are fortunate that the three match ban will be cover the last three of this season. While with regards to the champions huths ban will be carried over to next season. If the community shield is a competitive game surely that would be the third game and not the opening league match. Is that fair”

It doesn't include the Charity/Community Shield.
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
What's up with Gerry marsden these days
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Lovren saved Liverpool there, great tackle.

Couple of very smart testing balls from Milner.

Good start to this half.
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
It has 2 nil or 1-1 this game feel
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
I'll throw in 2-1, just to cover the options

Really enjoying seeing Milner playing with such freedom, reminds me of when he was a teenager for Leeds
Lawro2
05-05-2016
Hope someone scores soon as I do not want extra time.

I know I can just switch it off but I feel I have to see it through.
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
Do people really still put future football match dates in diaries , remember commentators saying that pre internet days but they still say it
Sattrega
05-05-2016
Nicely done Sturridge.

Still need to keep that clean sheet, though.
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
Can't decide for my bet if Sevilla would be better playing Liverpool or villireal in final
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Well, that came from nothing, very fortunate deflection but Sturridge did what he is employed to do. Guarantee Villarreal will not give a feeble City like performance when needing just one away goal.

Ruiz two dumb yellows. Game surely over. Villarreal down to ten men including a plonker for a goalie.

How many good passes has Milner made? Best I have seen from him for quite a while..
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by NiteOwl12:
“Well, that came from nothing, very fortunate deflection but Sturridge did what he is employed to do. Guarantee Villarreal will not give a feeble City like performance when needing just one away goal.

Ruiz two dumb yellows. Game surely over. Villarreal down to ten men including a plonker for a goalie.

How many good passes has Milner made? Best I have seen from him for quite a while..”

He will end up starting for England in the euros as one of the old faithful
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“He will end up starting for England in the euros as one of the old faithful”

I'm a Milner fan, watched him develop as a teenager at Leeds, but don't think he should be starting for England, there are better younger options now.

3-0 and a man down, no way back from there.
Sattrega
05-05-2016
That should be it! Especially against 10-men.
JSemple3
05-05-2016
Liverpool Sevilla in the Europa league final now I suppose
NiteOwl12
05-05-2016
If Sevilla win it this year they should rename it the Sevilla Cup, unbelievable record in the competition..
DUNDEEBOY
05-05-2016
Should be done well done Liverpool looking like Sevilla in the final
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