Of course it will, that's what happens. They're a completely different beast from the usual relegated sides though.

You mean a team will make changes during the summer transfer window? That's something you don't see everyday!

Rhino is in charge of us for Sunday.
If Rafa is appointed there'd be a riot. Hell, I'd riot down here in sunny Camden if Rafa is appointed.

Ps, "Rhino" is David Unsworth for the uninitited.

Well yeah but you're the one saying you'll be surprised if they come up. Youre just throwing that out completely without basis- I nearly had to check what is Newcastle's beef with Man United

They have much more resources and pulling power than your average relegated team though. they'll be given money to spend and I can see Rafa hanging around a season. Despite what you think it is very manageable to come staright back up, there is a large margin for error in the Championship.

Would there actually be uproar though? genuine question

Always saw the Everton/Liverpool rivalry as being on the amicable side. Privately I'd say everton fans would be delighted to get a top manager like Benitez. they wouldn't be long showing their support once he has them winning again

Uproar? You're kidding, right.? There would be absolute pandemonium. You're as wrong as wrong could be.

From Rafa's perspective just what is there to keep him at Newcastle??
Why would he want to be known as a Championship manager??
He is not like say Shearer a legend up there, or has any ties to them beyond his current contract with them, so he has no great reason to wish or motivating factors to stay behind his current deal as far as I can see.
Especially as no doubt that he will be getting offers from top division teams elsewhere (and probably not just in Europe).

That is why I severely doubt that he will be their manager next season, if he is however,then that would show a fair bit of loyalty on his part, and he would go up in my estimation of him.

I have no beef with Newcastle or their fans at all, and I wish them good luck in the Championship next season, however I do not expect them to romp it, or win it easily, as I can see a fair other teams that will be in the mix or hunt next season in that league.

Why? Benitez is a Spaniard, not a born and bred Scouser with an agenda against Everton

He hasn't managed Liverpool in years. Has he ever said anything bad about Everton? He seems like a genuine guy for the most part

Would you refuse to sign Suarez cos once upon a time he played for the team in the same City as you?

Seems very weird. Football is a business, if my team got a manager with CL winning experience I'd be over the moon but each to their own.

I can definitely see where you are coming from, and it is little patronising to the Evertl fans such as yourself, to suggest an ex Liverpool manager would be welcomed with open arms so to speak.

I would be delighted if it was Rafa...but some fans have small mentalities and would pass up getting a first class manager in...these fans probably would be happy for Duncan Ferguson to get the job.

Which teams?

If my team appointed Rafa, I would be up in arms with disgust as well to be fair.

It is called rivalry, and you tend to not want, what your rivals have cast away, and I can definitely see the rationale behind Everton fans not wanting Rafa (or Rodgers, or any Ex-Liverpool player or manager).

It isn't rationale, it's thinking with your heart rather than your head....Rafa is a first class manager, a proven record...if he didn't have the Liverpool connection then there wouldn't be a problem.

If you were alive then you would have hated the Sir Matt Busby appointment then.

Yeah that would be my thinking too

By their logic would Bobby Zamora be a better signing than Luis Suarez?

For example, whomever does not win the play-offs will I imagine still be in good shape to mount another push at the top.
Then you have teams like Birmingham, Leeds, Wolves and QPR l, whom if they get their acts together could pose a threat to the top of the table.
So I don't think it will be easy for Newcastle by any means.

A better comparison for United would be Suarez. Would you refuse him if he was offered to you? madness

All of those teams finished 30 points and more off the top. Are you just picking some big names?

Patronising LOL would ya grow up

batdude making blanket statements with zero basis? NEVER

There was the "small club" comment but I'd put that down to him being in with a bad crowd
If he's the best man for the job then that's what matters.

All teams are your rivals, there is absolutely no logic to it, it's ignored when it's a good player, so why not when it's a top manager.

Isn't that what being a fan is all about thinking more with the heart then the head?!
If every fan thought more with their head then their heart them things wouldn't be as good I think.

The fact is, there is that Liverpool connection, and as such, he will be disliked and not wanted precisely because of it, the same thing will be used against Rodgers as well for example.

It might be wrong if we are looking at things purely from a C.V. point of view, as he is an excellent manager, but fans tend to not want "cast offs" from their rivals, no matter the quality.


Yes I know the City connection there, but that was a very different era, and time, and the war had just happened, so there was not the same sort of levels of hostility towards appointing someone from a rival club (I can only speculate on that bit,but that is how from reading up on just after the war period, things might have been).

I used to have that attitude when I was younger, and I get it, not wanting someone from a rival. And if it can be avoided then great, and similarly I'd prefer an ex-Red to not go to Everton or Man United (hello Michael Owen) but if it would be to our benefit I'd be okay with it. If Real Madrid offered us Ronaldo tomorrow I wouldn't turn him down for being an ex-Man United player. If Everton offered us Lukaku I'd consider it, too.

They might have finished a fair way away from the top this season,but I would think that they will be doing better next year.
I didn't realise Brighton and Hull were classed as big clubs, but if you think so, then fair enough.


A blanket statement like Newcastle will go back up easily you mean? That to me has far more basis in terms of nothing being behind it,then anything that I have said on this topic.