Yes, I'm aware that it was a different time, and that the war happened then...

He played for both Man City and Liverpool. But you appointed him as your manager anyway, despite still being rivals. Busby was still friends with Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley, too, while Man United manager.

Spot on, a lot of my mates would be the same when we were in school but now they're a lot older and wiser any United friend I know said they would bite their hand off for Suarez to join them and plenty would have taken Gerrard/Torres back in the day in a heartbeat. They've completely grown out of actively hating club rivals, they respect good players when they see them no matter who they play for. The Liverpool fans I know respect paul Scholes and Roy Keane hugely as players

I mean think about it, these are just guys who were an employee of a club who is a rival. Benitez isn't even from Liverpool FFS. It's madness.

I don't see anything wrong with either way of thinking, part of being a fan I do think is thinking far more with your heart then your head.
Let the people who get paid by the club to think more with their head, us as fans are just a passionate bunch, who just want to do sell, and do better then our rivals.
Would I want Suarez for example at Old Trafford, the head would say of course, he is an excellent footballer, but the heart still has not forgiven him over the Evra affair, so my heart would say no.

Which is why fans shouldn't run football clubs...case in point Bill Kenwright, and even though he is Everton through & through the fans wanted rid of him too. What fans ultimately want is results, they may not like initial decisions, but if results start coming, then things get forgotten.

I'll think how I want to think, thanks.

You can think whatever way you want no matter how reasonable or unreasonable. It's not you making the transfer

Luckily the Arsenal board didn't have such pettiness when they signed Sol campbell, Madrid Figo, United Owen etc etc

If a player will improve your side go for it

I know his history and affiliations with other clubs, and how we got him to become our manager.

Having friendships with rival clubs managers doesn't really come into things all that much I would say.
I think (I could be wrong), but at the very beginning of plain old Alex Ferguson's tenure with us, him and Dalglish were on speaking terms and cordial towards each other, yet that didn't really have any impact on my personal feelings towards Alex at the time.

Why do you think that though? You've picked teams that showed no real sign of challenging in the Championship as threats to Newcastle, a side who coasted it last time and are set up to do the same again unless Mike Ashley shits the bed and decides to sell everything.

I don't think any of them are 'big clubs', I think you are just making stuff up and picked some of the more established names as your example.


That's not a blanket statement (another term you don't understand) though is it? It's quite a specific prediction having actually watched the Championship rather than have a quick look at the teams I've heard of and pluck them from my backside.

https://twitter.com/JKCorden/status/730513435855740928

The board as I say are paid to use their head, hence those signings, which the fans (presumably at the time), were not exactly enamoured with (or looking at it another way, perhaps they were happy to get one over their rivals by signing their best or better players).

Fans as a rule are a fickle bunch, and just want success, and will more often then not be thinking with their hearts then their heads over things.

That statement is up there with the sort of stuff a certain poster here regularly comes out with, in terms of coming back to bite him on the arse!

Yeah I saw that posted a few days ago, talk about coming back to bite you very hard in the bum!!

Huummm yet last night you suggested Brendan Rodgers as their next manager....

Yeah it's fine to not want someone from your rivals, you're a football fan so you're going to have a bias against your rivals and players/managers associated with them. But if you can overlook that for the greater good then I'll get over the fact that they once played in the wrong kind of red.

Some of Liverpool's best players were Everton fans. Carragher, Rush, Fowler, Owen, and many others (no, not Gerrard) that didn't stop them being loved by the fans when they were delivering on the pitch. Joe Allen was said to be a Man United fan, and he's starting to become a bit of a cult hero now. Rio Ferdinand was said to be a Liverpool fan, and he came from Leeds who are meant to have a rivalry with Man United. Fans took to him though.

I understand why Liverpool fans hated Michael Owen going to Man United, and I understand the hate Sol Campbell got (and probably still gets), I also hated Michael Owen going to Man United.

We've been linked with Javier Hernandez, and if we went for him the fact that he played for Man United wouldn't mean much I don't think, it's not like he was a Man United fan born in Manchester. And if his goals got us challenging for the title his history as a Man United player will become the answer to a trivia question.

That quote is clearly fake lads! There was a similar one with Sterling about Liverpool

I put it forward yes, but not with any real conviction or belief.

I don't think that there is a right way or a wrong way about how to support a club, it is just how you feel personally.

If you don't like a manager or player because of his past links to a rival club, then that is fair enough, just as it is to go the other way, and not be bothered about who a certain person has attachments with, just as long as he gives his all for the club now.

Just been skimming over the basics of this conversation, and one thing I would say is this.

Are Man United aware of where they got players from after the Munich disaster? Oddly, it was Liverpool FC who loaned them some players so they could continue playing. I was a kid at the time, and in Germany, and I remember my Dad very proudly telling me this.

Story HERE

Thanks for the link, that match after the crash must have been very hard to prepare for, and for any and all clubs that came to our aid that was I can only imagine very appreciated.

Yaya Toure's birthday tomorrow. Asked if he's got anything planned, Pellegrini responds with "a cake".

If Frank De Boer does come to Everton, I hope he brings some of Ajax's backroom staff/coaching team with him.

Assistant Manager: Dennis Bergkamp
Defensive Coach: Jaap Stam

Probably delivered like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYN54NZqlcw

Ahh Jaap, we sure could do with him now.

I'd welcome him back as a defensive coach!

Heck I would have have him as player/defensive coach, but then I was always a huge Jaap fan when he was with us previously.