Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Tomorrow's game is important in determining if De Gea gets the Golden Gloves trophy!”
“Tomorrow's game is important in determining if De Gea gets the Golden Gloves trophy!”
"important" is stretching it.
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Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Tomorrow's game is important in determining if De Gea gets the Golden Gloves trophy!”
“Tomorrow's game is important in determining if De Gea gets the Golden Gloves trophy!”
With the game tomorrow being ultimately meaningless now other than the chance of finishing one place higher, will Man Utd now play a virtual reserve side with the FA Cup Final coming up?
This is hugely important to me as I'm neck and neck at the top of our work's fantasy football league and I've got 3 Man Utd players in it who were all scheduled to play yesterday! The other guy doesn't have any so if at least Martial plays I've won (as long as he doesn't get sent off or score an own goal!). Also got De Gea and Smalling, so again if they play and they don't concede a hatful I'm OK.
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Get real.
If he wants to go (and who could blame him?), and Madrid still want him, then he'll go for £30-40m. No way that it'll come close to Bale's fee.”
“Get real.
If he wants to go (and who could blame him?), and Madrid still want him, then he'll go for £30-40m. No way that it'll come close to Bale's fee.”
To be fair Real do already have a pretty good keeper, but this is Real we are talking about, so I wouldn't be shocked to see him gotten rid of.
But De Gea is one of the two top players in his position, so why couldn't, or shouldn't we ask for a big fee?
How much would Bayern sell Neuer for (not that they would though)??
Why should we get shafted on the transfer fee (if we do sell him, which I don't think and hope that we don't), as he still has a fair few years left to run on his contract.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“"important" is stretching it.”
“"important" is stretching it.”
Well, there has to be something for the tv and media to big this match up over, and if people get worked up and excited over the top scorer award, then why not the same at the other end of the pitch?!
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“I'm looking forward to see how many players City have left after Pep has had a clear out.
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“I'm looking forward to see how many players City have left after Pep has had a clear out.
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Not f****ng many I hope after watching some of the shit they've produced this season.
Least we're giving him a bit of a challenge.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Nah, he is going no where, anytime soon, unless we got a seriously huge mega offer for him, which breaks Buffon's record for a keeper transfer, and somewhere near what Bale went for.”
“Nah, he is going no where, anytime soon, unless we got a seriously huge mega offer for him, which breaks Buffon's record for a keeper transfer, and somewhere near what Bale went for.”
We have a good 3 months of this!
Originally Posted by Big Poy:
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We have a good 3 months of this!”
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We have a good 3 months of this!”
I sure hope not!
I hope that this is sorted pronto, and that he stays put!
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“@england squad https://t.co/lAV8yn6Vt6
How has Delph made the cut for the Euro's??”
“@england squad https://t.co/lAV8yn6Vt6
How has Delph made the cut for the Euro's??”
He hasn't yet, still a handful to be chopped after the friendlies. I'd guess at Rashford and two of Henderson/Wilshere/Delph based on how they are physically.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“@england squad https://t.co/lAV8yn6Vt6
How has Delph made the cut for the Euro's??”
“@england squad https://t.co/lAV8yn6Vt6
How has Delph made the cut for the Euro's??”
Tbf he's not alone in the bang average category.
Originally Posted by celesti:
“He hasn't yet, still a handful to be chopped after the friendlies. I'd guess at Rashford and two of Henderson/Wilshere/Delph based on how they are physically.”
“He hasn't yet, still a handful to be chopped after the friendlies. I'd guess at Rashford and two of Henderson/Wilshere/Delph based on how they are physically.”
We would be very light on strikers if we cut Rashford from that list, especially as you can't really predict how Sturridge's body will hold up.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“We would be very light on strikers if we cut Rashford from that list, especially as you can't really predict how Sturridge's body will hold up.”
“We would be very light on strikers if we cut Rashford from that list, especially as you can't really predict how Sturridge's body will hold up.”
We only tend to use one out and out forward so taking five is excessive when there are also only three dedicated centre backs in the provisional squad.
I assume Rashford is there to experience the England squad during the friendlies and/or a just in case if Sturridge falls apart during that time.
Originally Posted by celesti:
“We only tend to use one out and out forward so taking five is excessive when there are also only three dedicated centre backs in the provisional squad.
I assume Rashford is there to experience the England squad during the friendlies and/or a just in case if Sturridge falls apart during that time.”
“We only tend to use one out and out forward so taking five is excessive when there are also only three dedicated centre backs in the provisional squad.
I assume Rashford is there to experience the England squad during the friendlies and/or a just in case if Sturridge falls apart during that time.”
Pretty much agree with this.
Defoe would be scraping the barrel.
If Rashford played for West Brom and scored the same amount of goals he wouldn't be in.
Delph lol
England's biggest issue is CB. Smalling, Cahill and Stones are not good enough.
If Rashford played for West Brom and scored the same amount of goals he wouldn't be in.
Delph lol
England's biggest issue is CB. Smalling, Cahill and Stones are not good enough.
Originally Posted by celesti:
“We only tend to use one out and out forward so taking five is excessive when there are also only three dedicated centre backs in the provisional squad.
I assume Rashford is there to experience the England squad during the friendlies and/or a just in case if Sturridge falls apart during that time.”
“We only tend to use one out and out forward so taking five is excessive when there are also only three dedicated centre backs in the provisional squad.
I assume Rashford is there to experience the England squad during the friendlies and/or a just in case if Sturridge falls apart during that time.”
You can't put any or much faith in people like Wilshire or Sturridge, as you just cannot predict for how long that they will be fit for, so it is a huge risk if both were to be taken.
We should be looking to minimise as much risk as possible, so really neither should be going to the Euro's in that sense.
Rashford has at least proven that he is not injury prone, so he is ahead of Sturridge in that key area.
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Defoe would be scraping the barrel.
If Rashford played for West Brom and scored the same amount of goals he wouldn't be in.
Delph lol
England's biggest issue is CB. Smalling, Cahill and Stones are not good enough.”
“Defoe would be scraping the barrel.
If Rashford played for West Brom and scored the same amount of goals he wouldn't be in.
Delph lol
England's biggest issue is CB. Smalling, Cahill and Stones are not good enough.”
True re the defence... Stones should be nowhere near consideration
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“You can't put any or much faith in people like Wilshire or Sturridge, as you just cannot predict for how long that they will be fit for, so it is a huge risk if both were to be taken.
We should be looking to minimise as much risk as possible, so really neither should be going to the Euro's in that sense.
Rashford has at least proven that he is not injury prone, so he is ahead of Sturridge in that key area.”
“You can't put any or much faith in people like Wilshire or Sturridge, as you just cannot predict for how long that they will be fit for, so it is a huge risk if both were to be taken.
We should be looking to minimise as much risk as possible, so really neither should be going to the Euro's in that sense.
Rashford has at least proven that he is not injury prone, so he is ahead of Sturridge in that key area.”
For God's sake, will you listen to yourself?
If Sturridge is fit, he goes. He's light years ahead of Rashford. You don't drop players from the squad because they might get injured during the tournament.
Same goes for Wilshere. If he's demonstrably fit, he should go, and probably start.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“You can't put any or much faith in people like Wilshire or Sturridge, as you just cannot predict for how long that they will be fit for, so it is a huge risk if both were to be taken.
We should be looking to minimise as much risk as possible, so really neither should be going to the Euro's in that sense.
Rashford has at least proven that he is not injury prone, so he is ahead of Sturridge in that key area.”
“You can't put any or much faith in people like Wilshire or Sturridge, as you just cannot predict for how long that they will be fit for, so it is a huge risk if both were to be taken.
We should be looking to minimise as much risk as possible, so really neither should be going to the Euro's in that sense.
Rashford has at least proven that he is not injury prone, so he is ahead of Sturridge in that key area.”
It's not an endurance test, it's a football tournament. Sturridge and WilshEre are better players than most, being ahead in the notable key area of that big rectangular green one.
Squads are very rarely fully used so it's not a giant risk to take two players with sketchy records. Unless they rule themselves out, they should both go.
Surely the point of the 23 man squad is that you have bodies to cover injuries? Nothing wrong with taking a couple of injury prone players.
Put it this way, hypothetically, if Sturridge misses all the group games through injury as well as the Quarter Final, but then scores the winner in Semi Final, is he worth his place? Undoubtedly.
Put it this way, hypothetically, if Sturridge misses all the group games through injury as well as the Quarter Final, but then scores the winner in Semi Final, is he worth his place? Undoubtedly.
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“For God's sake, will you listen to yourself?
If Sturridge is fit, he goes. He's light years ahead of Rashford. You don't drop players from the squad because they might get injured during the tournament.
Same goes for Wilshere. If he's demonstrably fit, he should go, and probably start.”
“For God's sake, will you listen to yourself?
If Sturridge is fit, he goes. He's light years ahead of Rashford. You don't drop players from the squad because they might get injured during the tournament.
Same goes for Wilshere. If he's demonstrably fit, he should go, and probably start.”
I have said that this tournament is one too early for Rashford, and that really he should not even be considered for this one (I think next year the Under 21's have a tournament, that would be best for him I think).
But since he is now included in the 26, then we have to deal with the situation as it is, and he has done well this season, and shown that he can keep himself fit, and managers can rely on him in that sense.
You have to be able to have faith as a manager that whomever you pick will be able to play, with Wilshire and Sturridge there are questions about their fitness record.
I would not take Wilshire as he has just not (a) done anything since he returned to the Arsenal side road warrant his inclusion ahead of other players, and (b) I am not sure where you would play him with the other players in the squad.
Is he a defensive player like Dier, or an attack minded one who is likely to get us a goal like Ali? I think the answer is no to both of them, so really I don't see where he fits in.
From that squad of players, my starting eleven would be something like this :-
Hart
Clyne
Smalling
Cahill
Rose
Dier
Henderson
Ali
Rooney
Kane
Vardy
You really don't need to reiterate your vendetta against Wilshere or that you have no idea what he actually does.
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