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Old 16-05-2016, 15:52
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Oh no, that's not the team I'd play. I posted my team about a page or 2 ago, that's just how I think Hodgson will line up whilst simultaneously including the 3 specified players.
Oh okay then, no worries!
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Old 16-05-2016, 15:54
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You'd have a five man midfield with wingers and two strikers?
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Old 16-05-2016, 15:57
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How about this team guys:

Hart
Smalling
Henderson Wilshere Drinkwater Dier Alli
Townsend Vardy Kane Sterling

Easy peasy.
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Old 16-05-2016, 15:57
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EDIT: Double post.
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Old 16-05-2016, 16:03
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Cov played Henderson on the right wing when he was on loan to us years ago, he was ace. Not to say he's gone downhill since, but I bet he sometimes finds himself searching the field for David Bell and crying a solitary wistful tear.
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Old 16-05-2016, 16:11
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Surely Kane and Vardy both have to play, they have both been on top form, and not playing either would mean us not having our best goalscoring options on the pitch.
I think both Kane and Vardy deserve to play and start, as they both have been far too good to not play either.
Are you seriously suggesting both should play because you can't decide who to drop? Its not about them both deserving it its about England actually winning.

For example England played in Euro 96 with only Shearer as an out and out striker despite having the best crop of strikers around at the time. Decision have to be made rather than shoe-horning players in.
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Old 16-05-2016, 16:15
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Just dropping in to ask the question

Is there anything in the premier league rule book that states all games on the final day have to be concluded on that date. And was there enough time for the game to be played last night
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Old 16-05-2016, 16:18
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I wouldn't have thought so. It can't be easy to hastily rearrange a football match with upwards of 70000 attendees and all the staffing and infrastructure that goes along with it.
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Old 16-05-2016, 17:27
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Cov played Henderson on the right wing when he was on loan to us years ago, he was ace. Not to say he's gone downhill since, but I bet he sometimes finds himself searching the field for David Bell and crying a solitary wistful tear.
He's played in wide positions for us sometimes, even at RB once I think, and RWB. He can certainly do a job there. Gerrard used to be great out wide, too. Hendo's better as a CM of course but he's certainly an option if we had an injury problem with the wingers.

I think both Kane and Vardy deserve to play and start, as they both have been far too good to not play either.

So if they both were to play I would have a central midfield of Henderson and Dier to create that pathway to allow say a Rooney or an Ali to perform in "the hole".
Then you could play two wider players to do what they should be good at.
Now I'm going to find it odd to be arguing with you of all people over your inclusion of a Liverpool player, but the reason you don't want Wilshere in the squad should also apply to Henderson, who you would pick. He's been injured for most of this season, even when he was playing he had an on-going injury, and it certainly affected his performances. He wasn't performing as well as we (Liverpool fans, at least) know he can. He's only just come back from an injury, played in the last game against West Brom. I don't want him to play in the final on Wednesday because he's just coming back and hasn't been great this season.

If you don't want Wilshere to go because he's been injured and hasn't performed well for a consistent run of games then the same applies to Jordan Henderson.

23 players will go. Not all 23 players will be guaranteed to play, and they know this, and there's a chance that a few of them will know who they are. If Rashford is one of the 23 he'll probably be aware that he's one who might not get any game time, especially if we play one up top. Wilshere may well fall in this category. With 23 players you can afford to take a chance on players like Wilshere and Sturridge who you know can deliver if they are fit. If they stay fit during the tournament it's a bonus, and you can benefit from it. If they pick up an injury then it doesn't have to be a disaster unless they were considered key players, if the team was going to be built around them.
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Old 16-05-2016, 17:56
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Chelsea & Spurs fines over failing to control their players.

Chelsea got a charge of £375,000 whilst Spurs got a charge of £225,000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/...linkname=sport

Hope this is a lesson sent out to all clubs.
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:18
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Chelsea & Spurs fines over failing to control their players.

Chelsea got a charge of £375,000 whilst Spurs got a charge of £225,000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/...linkname=sport

Hope this is a lesson sent out to all clubs.
It's pocket change to chelsea. Certainly won't send a message to them. Whether it does to spurs i don't know. I still say a far greater punishment than a fine is points deductions. They'll think twice then.
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:31
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Chelsea & Spurs fines over failing to control their players.

Chelsea got a charge of £375,000 whilst Spurs got a charge of £225,000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/...linkname=sport

Hope this is a lesson sent out to all clubs.
Why were Chelsea fined more than Spurs? Seems bizarre.
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:35
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Why were Chelsea fined more than Spurs? Seems bizarre.
Yes, it does.
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:39
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Why were Chelsea fined more than Spurs? Seems bizarre.
That made me blink very quickly as well. I went along to the FA web site and all I could find that might possibly give a clue is the following,

Prior to this fixture, Chelsea had breached FA Rule E20 on four separate occasions and Tottenham Hotspur twice since November 2014.
http://www.thefa.com/news/governance...m-fined-160516

So perhaps the FA took into account the worse more recent conduct of Chelsea compared to Spurs. Doesn't persuade me, I admit, but it's all I can find.
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:48
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Seems like a weeks wages to the 'stars' of the PL

Money will never stop repeats- only points deductions, ground closures and bans
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Old 16-05-2016, 18:56
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Would have hoped the FA said the next time it happens with these two clubs then it would be a points deduction. Fines don't really cut it.
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:01
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I wonder when the FA will punish West Ham for the terrible behaviour of their fans before our match with them?
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:08
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I wonder when the FA will punish West Ham for the terrible behaviour of their fans before our match with them?
Maybe a points deduction or play next seasons home games behind closed doors
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:08
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That made me blink very quickly as well. I went along to the FA web site and all I could find that might possibly give a clue is the following,

Prior to this fixture, Chelsea had breached FA Rule E20 on four separate occasions and Tottenham Hotspur twice since November 2014.
http://www.thefa.com/news/governance...m-fined-160516

So perhaps the FA took into account the worse more recent conduct of Chelsea compared to Spurs. Doesn't persuade me, I admit, but it's all I can find.
That makes a bit of sense, thanks. Still pretty bizarre given Spurs had 9 players booked and one given a 6 match ban would have thought even with a cleaner record that would get a bigger punishment.
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:09
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I wonder when the FA will punish West Ham for the terrible behaviour of their fans before our match with them?
Isn't it out of their jurisdiction if outside the ground and a police matter?
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:19
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Isn't it out of their jurisdiction if outside the ground and a police matter?
Someone deserves to be punished for what was simply unacceptable behaviour, no team no matter who they are should have their bus smashed up like that.
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:30
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So eye gouging was deemed a more serious incident yet the club involved got fined less. Chelsea hard done by in my opinion

On the subject of the OT fiasco. I dont know what the cut off time was for the game not to be played yesterday but surely if there had been enough time to play the game last night then perhaps it should have been played.
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:43
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You can only delay something so long before you have to reschedule it.
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:44
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Someone deserves to be punished for what was simply unacceptable behaviour, no team no matter who they are should have their bus smashed up like that.
They are being punished. Police have identified the trouble makers and WHFC are giving them life bans.

What more do you want?
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Old 16-05-2016, 19:50
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Someone deserves to be punished for what was simply unacceptable behaviour, no team no matter who they are should have their bus smashed up like that.
Nobody is saying they shouldn't be punished but not sure the FA can do anything in this case - I'm sure the police are looking at it from a public order or criminal damage respective and West Han have already banned one fan they've identified if I heard correctly.
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