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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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alan29
19-05-2016
Loving the quaint idea that players choose and their parastic agents don't.
JasonWatkins
20-05-2016
Brendan Rodgers appointed by Celtic on a rolling 12 month contract

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36338244

Good move for him - they're near enough guaranteed the title pretty much every year so he could certainly re-establish his reputation somewhat.
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Brendan Rodgers appointed by Celtic on a rolling 12 month contract

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36338244

Good move for him - they're near enough guaranteed the title pretty much every year so he could certainly re-establish his reputation somewhat.”

That certainly will up his CV with titles for how ever long he is there for, as even with Rangers coming up again, it is still a one team league.

Quite how that will help him to get another Premier League job in the future, I am not too sure, it hasn't done much for Lennon.

Still a job is a job I suppose.
celesti
20-05-2016
Has he said that he took the job in order to attract a Premier League offer?
Jamesp84
20-05-2016
That would be Neil Lennon who had no managerial record in England previously, unlike Rodgers.
misawa97
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“That certainly will up his CV with titles for how ever long he is there for, as even with Rangers coming up again, it is still a one team league.

Quite how that will help him to get another Premier League job in the future, I am not too sure, it hasn't done much for Lennon.

Still a job is a job I suppose.”

Rodgers doesn't need Celtic on his cv to get a PL job. He could of got a job in England on the back of how work at Swansea and Liverpool.
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Rodgers doesn't need Celtic on his cv to get a PL job. He could of got a job in England on the back of how work at Swansea and Liverpool.”

Fair enough, I don't know quite which club that might be, certainly not a club fighting it out for a Champions League place.
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Has he said that he took the job in order to attract a Premier League offer?”

Presumably, he will want to manage in the Premier League again, or will he be content managing in Scotland?
celesti
20-05-2016
He might just have joined Celtic to do well at Celtic rather than to drop them at the first offer. Neil Lennon has no real bearing on him.
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“He might just have joined Celtic to do well at Celtic rather than to drop them at the first offer. Neil Lennon has no real bearing on him.”

I can't see him wanting to stay for long in such a one sided league, (even with Rangers coming back up), he seems like a really ambitious guy.

He might want to do well at Celtic (whatever doing well is considered to be), but it clearly is just a stepping stone, to him trying to get another Premier League job.

If he was that serious about Celtic, then he would have pushed for a lot longer than just a one year deal.
celesti
20-05-2016
If you're not sure how it'll help him, how is that clear?

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“If he was that serious about Celtic, then he would have pushed for a lot longer than just a one year deal.”

Ignoring how simplistic and inaccurate that view is, Deila had the same deal so maybe it's a Celtic thing rather than a Rodgers thing.
Mark F
20-05-2016
The test will be getting them to do well in Europe which is Celtic's main downfall.....
Jamesp84
20-05-2016
It isn't a 1 year deal, it's a 12 month rolling contract. There's a difference.
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“It isn't a 1 year deal, it's a 12 month rolling contract. There's a difference.”

Slight difference I agree, but not by much, it still doesn't exactly show that he is there for the long term with them does it?

Just that after each season, he gets to see where the kind lies in terms of other possible offers.

A three year deal or something like that, would have shown that he was really interested and committed to that job.
celesti
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Slight difference I agree, but not by much”

It's very different.

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“A three year deal or something like that, would have shown that he was really interested and committed to that job.”

And if he's crap Celtic have to shell out big to get rid. This way they don't, and this isn't the first time they've done it.

It's a sensible deal, it's not 'more years = more he wants to be there'
Stilton Cheesew
20-05-2016
Ah Brendan Rodgers used to manage Liverpool so naturally its going to be a terrible deal for him and Celtic and we can dismiss a club the size of Celtic in the process of pointing it out!!! How transparent, but as its the Neutrals Thread it must be ok.
Nova21
20-05-2016
Good appointment for both sides with regards to Celtic and Rodgers. I hope he does well.
Celtic have used the rolling one year deal for a few of their managers in the recent past.
I don't think it's unreasonable though to think that it will be a stepping stone for Rodgers if things work out, rather than him being there for 5 years or so.
Stilton Cheesew
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Good appointment for both sides with regards to Celtic and Rodgers. I hope he does well.
Celtic have used the rolling one year deal for a few of their managers in the recent past.
I don't think it's unreasonable though to think that it will be a stepping stone for Rodgers if things work out, rather than him being there for 5 years or so.”

Its not unreasonable Nova if thats all that was being said. The problem is its quite difficult for the appointment to simultaneously not be a stepping stone

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
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Quite how that will help him to get another Premier League job in the future, I am not too sure, it hasn't done much for Lennon.

Still a job is a job I suppose.”

and yet be a stepping stone

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“He might want to do well at Celtic (whatever doing well is considered to be), but it clearly is just a stepping stone, to him trying to get another Premier League job.

If he was that serious about Celtic, then he would have pushed for a lot longer than just a one year deal.”

batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“Ah Brendan Rodgers used to manage Liverpool so naturally its going to be a terrible deal for him and Celtic and we can dismiss a club the size of Celtic in the process of pointing it out!!! How transparent, but as its the Neutrals Thread it must be ok.”

What the heck are you on about??

My comments have nothing, zero to do with who he has managed in the past.

Why does everything have to be about who someone supports, can people not have an opinion on things like this, without it automatically being ruled out on the basis of who someone supports?
misawa97
20-05-2016
Quote:
“ If he was that serious about Celtic, then he would have pushed for a lot longer than just a one year deal.”

Rolling 12 month deals at Celtic isn't uncommon. O'Neil and Lennon used to roll over.

I think Brendan will stay for 2 years minimum.
MichPlat
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Brendan Rodgers appointed by Celtic on a rolling 12 month contract

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36338244

Good move for him - they're near enough guaranteed the title pretty much every year so he could certainly re-establish his reputation somewhat.”

So he's forfeited his 5 million a year payout from Liverpool !?

Why would he do that ?
batdude_uk1
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Rolling 12 month deals at Celtic isn't uncommon. O'Neil and Lennon used to roll over.

I think Brendan will stay for 2 years minimum.”

Did O'Neil sign a rolling deal when he first initially went there, or did he do that after his first contract?
I am just trying to work it out, nothing malicious ment by the question by the way.
TheSloth
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Slight difference I agree, but not by much, it still doesn't exactly show that he is there for the long term with them does it?

Just that after each season, he gets to see where the kind lies in terms of other possible offers.

A three year deal or something like that, would have shown that he was really interested and committed to that job.”

If it's a true rolling contract, it means either party can give 12 months notice at ANY time or alternatively pay it off/get compensation for 12 months. If so, that's a lot different.
carnoch04
20-05-2016
A bit of confusion on here about a 12 month rolling contract. It does not mean a 12 month deal, it means that there is always 12 months to run. Rodgers will still have a 12 month contract next June. It means either side has to give 12 months notice (unless agreed by mutual consent).
Orchideam
20-05-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“What the heck are you on about??

My comments have nothing, zero to do with who he has managed in the past.

Why does everything have to be about who someone supports, can people not have an opinion on things like this, without it automatically being ruled out on the basis of who someone supports?”

Oh my!! Do excuse me but I don't believe a single word of this, written by the most biased writer, oops sorry, poster, on this board.

You gotta laugh or you'll cry.
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