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Old 14-03-2016, 23:57
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Well of course, who knows what will happen but I'm only giving another perspective. They may not win another game but I'd still rather be positive

I really think Chelsea's improvement is being exaggerated though, they're still playing very mediocre stuff. Last day of the season will they really be that bothered? Don't get the man u "inconsistency" either, though maybe it depends what you mean by inconsistency. they've been off the boil 95% of the time tbh, mainly down to an awful manager.
Under Guus Hiddink Chelsea have got 8 wins, 8 draws and 3 defeats, with a 42.11% win percentage. I'm not exaggerating anything or basing my opinion on anyone exaggerating their improvement. I said they're not as easy to beat under Hiddink and those stats back it up.

The inconsistency comes from the fact that they're able to get a win or a draw, they went on a little run recently, and in the first half of the season they were grinding out results. They can stop a team from winning at least, depends on how they are on the day.


Chelsea/Huddink stats, don't know how up-to-date it is:

http://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/guus-hiddink/
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Old 14-03-2016, 23:58
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I notice some foreign and American websites have been calling them Leicestershire
😂😂 it'll be funny to see how European people even pronounce laykester.

I'm sure this is huge in the states alright they love a good underdog story
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:01
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Under Guus Hiddink Chelsea have got 8 wins, 8 draws and 3 defeats, with a 42.11% win percentage. I'm not exaggerating anything or basing my opinion on anyone exaggerating their improvement. I said they're not as easy to beat under Hiddink and those stats back it up.

The inconsistency comes from the fact that they're able to get a win or a draw, they went on a little run recently, and in the first half of the season they were grinding out results. They can stop a team from winning at least, depends on how they are on the day.
That's very poor by Chelsea standards though. And United's "run" consisted of beating a league 2 team, Danish no-hopers who were on their holidays and their favourite doormat arsenal along with a fortuitous win at home to Watford

They could easily drop points (like anyone theoretically can against anyone) but they're matches they have every right to be confident in.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:08
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That's very poor by Chelsea standards though.
Completely irrelevant to the point being made. The fact is they're doing better than they were prior to Hiddink coming in, and, third time lucky, they're harder to beat. 8 wins, 8 draws, 3 defeats. That's not an easy 3 points. Doesn't matter if it's poor by Chelsea's standards, I'm not denying they've had a poor season but they're not so poor anymore compared to previously, they aren't going to be walkovers.

I'm not going to reply to the Man United stuff since I'll just be repeating myself.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:10
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Leicester are getting the job done now but it's hard to think they won't have some sort of wobble between now and the end of the season.

I don't think it'll stop them winning the title if and when it happens, but still...
I think they will have the title won before the last two matches to be honest.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:13
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Completely irrelevant to the point being made. The fact is they're doing better than they were prior to Hiddink coming in
Sure I never said they weren't ?

Only theyve gone from terrible before he came in to fairly average now

It's only an observation anyway, as I say id rather be positive it's a one in a million scenario a team with such little relative resources in a position to win a league wel probably never see it again tbh
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:18
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I think they will have the title won before the last two matches to be honest.
If they win 4 of the next 5 the last 3 could become irrelevant alright. Can't see spurs getting 18-20 more points tbh
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:19
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Sure I never said they weren't ?

Only theyve gone from terrible before he came in to fairly average now

It's only an observation anyway, as I say id rather be positive it's a one in a million scenario a team with such little relative resources in a position to win a league wel probably never see it again tbh
You are right and it is why so many people, me included, are rooting for Leicester.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:22
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Sure I never said they weren't ?

Only theyve gone from terrible before he came in to fairly average now
I didn't say you did? The bit you cut out was the main part of my post, subsequently missing my point.

It doesn't matter if they're average or not, with only 3 defeats in 19 games it suggests they're going to be difficult to beat, despite you saying they've had a poor season while weighing up Leicester's chances of beating them. You talk about the difficulty of their final three games being exaggerated while at the same time you're downplaying the difficulty.

But if Leicester are going to win the league they shouldn't need to get 3 points against Chelsea.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:25
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I didn't say you did? The bit you cut out was the main part of my post, subsequently missing my point.

It doesn't matter if they're average or not, with only 3 defeats in 19 games it suggests they're going to be difficult to beat, despite you saying they've had a poor season while weighing up Leicester's chances of beating them. You talk about the difficulty of their final three games being exaggerated while at the same time you're downplaying the difficulty.

But if Leicester are going to win the league they shouldn't need to get 3 points against Chelsea.
Ok fair enough. And definitely agree with your last line

Anyhow the most important game at this stage is the next one! Itd be nice if the last 3 became irrelevant
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:28
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Well I'm a neutral so in the interests of entertainment I'd rather the final three games didn't become irrelevant. Personally I'd rather Leicester win the league than Spurs for personal reasons but I'm not a Leicester fan so I'd rather see the race go to the end.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:51
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I hope Leicester do it too, but I don't think anyone should be counting any chickens yet. Plenty of football still to go, and every game is a potential banana skin in this very unpredictable season.

As for Chelsea, it's 13 PL games undefeated since Mourinho left, the longest unbeaten run in the league. I think it was RichmondBlue who said in the CFC thread the other day that if the post-Mourinho form had been extrapolated over the season we'd be 3rd in the table. So it's unlikely to be a stroll in the park for Leicester, or Spurs for that matter, when they play us.

Leicester deserve credit though. They're the only team that's averaged more than 2 points per game, which is what league winners usually do.
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Old 15-03-2016, 00:52
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I think they will have the title won before the last two matches to be honest.
Having a wobble won't stop them doing that if Spurs have a wobble at the same time - which seems almost likely given how Leicester's other bad results have gone unpunished.
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Old 15-03-2016, 05:45
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I am not rooting for Leicester. I support my own team.
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Old 15-03-2016, 05:51
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I am not rooting for Leicester. I support my own team.
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Old 15-03-2016, 06:36
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I am not rooting for Leicester. I support my own team.
Ah, but the Baggies are safely nestled in mid table and aren't competing with Leicester for anything. Reckon you could support Leicester's efforts too, for the good of Midlands football...
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Old 15-03-2016, 07:09
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Leicester are getting the job done now but it's hard to think they won't have some sort of wobble between now and the end of the season.

I don't think it'll stop them winning the title if and when it happens, but still...
Why? they have been on the same form since this time last year...and this time last year they would have had far more pressure on them to stay up, they survived that.
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Old 15-03-2016, 07:14
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Even through the rough times i will ALWAYS support leicester city. Though to some that isnt enough
Just the good times you struggle with.
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Old 15-03-2016, 07:44
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I think all the talk about Leicester v Chelsea has led to me stumbling on the obvious: most people, myself included, would expect to look at the league table now and see Chelsea where Leicester are and, at best and with some surprise, Leicester where Chelsea now sit. That would have been an unremarkable and not especially interesting season, more of the same with perhaps the Hammers profiting from Van Gaal's mismanagement of what should be a title challenging squad (the Hammers may well do so, I have learned this season never to underestimate Van Gaal's ability to ruin a player's creative expression). Win or lose the championship, Leicester have made this into one of the most gripping premier league seasons for neutrals and may have even provided some relief and compensation for many who have been disappointed with their own team's efforts but who enjoy a good, totally unscripted, sporting story.
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Old 15-03-2016, 07:47
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An unusually sluggish performance by Leicester last night. Dare i say they may be tiring a little? Perhaps it was more due to Newcastle setting up in a more disciplined and professional manner. Not sure how Drinkwater ended up receiving motm, thought he had an uncharacteristically poor game - how many times did he give the ball away? Anyway, they got the job done *insert cliche about titles being won by teams who still win games when not playing great* and i'd say that likely leaves them needing 5 wins to be sure of the title.
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Old 15-03-2016, 08:08
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And they go marching on. I'd just reiterate the feeling of those who say they have made this season the best in years and I find my myself celebrating each win they get. For the first time now, I think they may just do it!

Newcastle looked better last night and I hope Benitez digs them out.
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Old 15-03-2016, 08:27
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ABS (anyone but Spurs). Come on Leicester!!!
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Old 15-03-2016, 10:02
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Does make you wonder where Newcastle would have been in the PL if they had employed Nigel Pearson instead of Steve McClaren.

As a neutral it would be good to see ( next season ) the North-East derbies between Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough and the South-Coast derbies between Bournemouth, Southampton and Brighton.
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Old 15-03-2016, 10:05
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Does make you wonder where Newcastle would have been in the PL if they had employed Nigel Pearson instead of Steve McClaren.

As a neutral it would be good to see ( next season ) a Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough derby and down south a Bournemouth, Southampton and Brighton derby.
Not sure three teams can play in the one game, mate.
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Old 15-03-2016, 10:07
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Not sure three teams can play in the one game, mate.
Aye I know. You were too quick for my edit. But you know what I mean.
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