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I know the press have been having a right go at our defence a lot recently, but after the last two friendlies I think we have a bigger problem in midfield. Both Turkey and Oz have walked through them with no resistance whenever they have wanted. There's zero steel there and no protection to our shaky back four.
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So the hull v weds game is worth 170m. How much of that will the manager of the promoted team get for transfers?
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So the hull v weds game is worth 170m. How much of that will the manager of the promoted team get for transfers?
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The one thing that did strike me last night about Rashford that I've not noticed watching for Man Utd, is that he seems to have no pace whatsoever.
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He's not lightening quick, but certainly isn't slow, some of his goals for United are evidence of that.
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Seeing as next season we will have some very talented managers managing in the Premier League, it got me wondering where in the pantheon of top managers would you put Barcelona's current manager Luis Enrique?
Is he deserving of being called one of the best in the world? Simeone is regularly classed as such, as is Carlo Ancelotti, and those are two that are regularly mentioned as the two top managers that will not be in the Premier League next season, but does Enrique deserve to be included in that bracket as well? Is it just because he is at Barcelona and seemingly unattainable at this stage, and that people don't see him in the Premier League, which might hurt his reputation a bit, or is he a genuinely world class manager? |
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He's not lightening quick, but certainly isn't slow, some of his goals for United are evidence of that.
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The Rashford case makes you wonder how many hidden gems we have in U18 and U21 teams. Apparently he wasn't pulling up any trees at that level but some players thrive on adrenaline and the pressure of the big occasion. Conversely, is it simply just adrenaline and the fearlessness of youth? Some young players start like a house on fire but slowly degrade as the weight of expectation increases and the initial buzz fades. Whatever the case, it's always refreshing to see such players emerge from nowhere cod shake things up.
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The Rashford case makes you wonder how many hidden gems we have in U18 and U21 teams. Apparently he wasn't pulling up any trees at that level but some players thrive on adrenaline and the pressure of the big occasion. Conversely, is it simply just adrenaline and the fearlessness of youth? Some young players start like a house on fire but slowly degrade as the weight of expectation increases and the initial buzz fades. Whatever the case, it's always refreshing to see such players emerge from nowhere cod shake things up.
Rashford comes in for two games and doesn't score? He's back to obscurity. He gets a quick couple of goals and he's on his way to stardom. |
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Seeing as next season we will have some very talented managers managing in the Premier League, it got me wondering where in the pantheon of top managers would you put Barcelona's current manager Luis Enrique?
Is he deserving of being called one of the best in the world? Simeone is regularly classed as such, as is Carlo Ancelotti, and those are two that are regularly mentioned as the two top managers that will not be in the Premier League next season, but does Enrique deserve to be included in that bracket as well? Is it just because he is at Barcelona and seemingly unattainable at this stage, and that people don't see him in the Premier League, which might hurt his reputation a bit, or is he a genuinely world class manager? Enrique initially did try and change things and it didn't work and the players reigned him in. Would class manager? Too early to say so which is kinda crazy considering what his won. |
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Ashley Fletcher, who will line up for Barnsley in the L1 playoff final tomorrow, was ahead of Rashford in the pecking order at United and would probably have been the one to step in if he hadn't gone out on loan.
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The commentators are calling it the White Rose final. The last time i checked Hull was in Humberside
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The Rashford case makes you wonder how many hidden gems we have in U18 and U21 teams. Apparently he wasn't pulling up any trees at that level but some players thrive on adrenaline and the pressure of the big occasion. Conversely, is it simply just adrenaline and the fearlessness of youth? Some young players start like a house on fire but slowly degrade as the weight of expectation increases and the initial buzz fades. Whatever the case, it's always refreshing to see such players emerge from nowhere cod shake things up.
He also comes across as a really likeable guy. |
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So sky will be showing 126 live games next season, more than ever be before. How many did they show this season then?
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This play-off final really hasn't been a great game. Hull have been the better side by far though. Wednesday are so wasteful of any opportunity that comes their way.
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I thought Wednesday might do it today,, they seem to have the momentum coming into todays game,, but they have been pretty poor in a pretty poor game , if Hull win then they just about deserve it imo
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the play acting from the hull keeper is beyond awful.
ref needs to add more time on |
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I thought Wednesday might do it today,, they seem to have the momentum coming into todays game,, but they have been pretty poor in a pretty poor game , if Hull win then they just about deserve it imo
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penalty to wednesday, on second thoughts its not
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Ah well, never mind
Hull going back up to the Premier League |
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Wednesday should count themselves lucky they only lost 1-0, they barely made an impact from first whistle to last.
Hull, Burnley and Middlesbrough; three yo-yo clubs who've bounced the right way at the right time to capitalise on the new PL riches. |
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I was hoping for Wednesday because they haven't been up in ages while Hull are a yo-yo team, but they've been really poor today in my opinion. Either side looks like a cert to go down next season unless there is vast improvement.
I wanted Wednesday up as they haven't been up for a while, middlesboro can't see them offering much. Southern promoted teams seem to offer more and have more ambition |
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Love the way Bruce is being praised as the manager that's brought Hull back up to PL 4 times - he's also the manager who took them down at least 3 times as well then?
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Why was the ground not full
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Wednesday should count themselves lucky they only lost 1-0, they barely made an impact from first whistle to last.
Hull, Burnley and Middlesbrough; three yo-yo clubs who've bounced the right way at the right time to capitalise on the new PL riches. |
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