Still France's best pure striker?

We were talking about the ones available at the Euro's, at the time that comment was made I think (hence why for example, Benzema could not be included, but is the best that they have got).

Griezeman, is in a great run of form, and is such a brilliant player, that he probably is or was the best that they had to offer at the Euro's, but Martial is not too far behind him, it was farcical the way he was hardly used in that tournament.

Yes, you were calling him during a tournament where he was down the pecking order behind the other strikers for a national team he has yet to score for (he hardly leads the line at club level either, not sure how he's a great pure striker). It's like when you call Luke Shaw the best fullback in the league or whatever else, it's nonsense but you're not biased at all, perish the thought.

It's all about opinions, and having different perspectives, and I have a different one to you, but I can't see why you think how you do, even though I don't think the same way, but it's ok, we all have a right to an opinion, even though ours are different, with regards to the matter of French strikers, among other things.

Martial isn't even really a striker, is he? He plays as wide forward/forward winger.

'not too far behind him'? Greizmann was by far the best player at the euros. I agree that Martial should have played more but he's nowhere near Greizmann.

Please. Since when has Martial showed he is anywhere close to the level Griezeman is at right now?

Benzema for me is the best French striker, but since he was not at the Euro's, he is not part of this discussion I suppose, but Greizmann is a wonderful player, and had a very, very good tournament.

Martial is also a very talented player, but was denied the chance to show this, as he was only really given one match (and if my memory serves my right, I've half of that match) to prove his talents, which is a bit farcical, how Gignac was selected to be brought on more times then him is a mystery.

They play in different positions.

Gignac is pony, but he is at least an actual centre-forward. Martial is not.

Martial I would suggest is a better centre-forward/striker (call that role whichever one you want) than Gignac, his pace can cause opposition defences all manner of problems.

pace is no good on its own, see citys latest 50m flop.

You need an end product, a cross or a finish.

But it's not his position.

Why didn't England play Walcott or Sterling up front? They've got pace, but Kane is a better centre-forward, because it's his position.

Onto a different topic, it seems that Bruce has left Hull.

I wonder who might replace him there if this true?

Martial does have an end product, a very good one, as we saw for ourselves at club level.


Well perhaps we should have tried something different at the Euro's, as no-one really stood out for us,from an attacking perspective.

Walcott I think does have more of an end product than Sterling, and can offer more of a threat to the opposition goal.

Martial is a great prospect, but he's got work to do.

Griezmann is already there. Top class.

Griezmann is one of the best in the world.

We might as well get this out of the way, Giggs to Hull??

Not for me, but I guess someone will link him with the job.

Agreed. Wonderful player.

As for Hull, couldn't give a rat's arse who takes that job. The slightly more interesting aspect of this is Bruce going so near to the start of the season. Is it to Sunderland?

Bruce to Sunderland is not something I thought of, seeing as all of the stories are about Moyes going there, but I guess he could be an option.

What reason do you have to suggest this, considering Gignac has a fine (and notably, better) scoring record at both levels?

Well Gignac is older and has thus played far more games, so this will obviously affect stats such as the ones you put forward.
As for why I think Martial is better than him, that is just s personal belief from watching him play for us, and then having seen Gignac in Europe before going to Mexico.

Bruce probably fed up. He nearly quit Hull Before the play off final. There are issues between the fans and the club as well I think

A better scoring record doesn't mean he's scored more because he's 10 years older, it means in the last few seasons he's outscored a player who you feel is a better striker despite not actually being a striker, because he plays for Man Utd.

Moyes is nailed on for Sunderland.

Why bring club loyalty into it, Martial playing for us, is not the reason why I think he is a better player than Gignac, it has to do with what I have seen with my eyes, the kit doesn't come into things.