Oh ok, Martin Tyler never said anything but it looked fine at first viewing, will have to watch MOTD later

His big toe may have been offside

you mean nose?

its not really silverware, its like calling the emirates cup a "trophy".

If Chelsea had won it you'd be calling it silverware.

It's a final that you are happy to win but if you don't you can dismiss it as insignificant. That's how I see it.

no, i never call the community sheild a trophy or silverware, i couldnt give a monkeys if chelsea won it or not.

Yeah, think that's how it's viewed by most fans. I think it sits somewhere between a friendly and a competetive match, and I'd rather win it than lose it given the choice!

It's the only friendly that only allows 6 subs on the bench.

It's only classed has a friendly so any yellow/red cards dont impact the start of the premier league

Speaking of trophies. Which premier league club will win the check a trade trophy this season. Rolls off the tongue dont it.

United have missed out on winning that by not accepting invite. United fans will probably see today as the start of something big and will sweep all the before them this season.

I think they also said that no team has gone on to win the premier league having won the Community Shield since we last did it a few years back.

This is going to be a tough season to call. All the typically "big" teams are still missing players in vital positions. Utd lack a world class centre back, City lack a keeper, Arsenal lack a goalscoring number 9, Chelsea lack a full back and Liverpool lack a main striker (cause we can assume Sturridge will be back on the physio's table by October). And that's just identifying one position of weakness, all have others that need strengthening. Realistically all clubs need a 25 goal a season striker as City can't bank of Aguero's fitness, Liverpool can't guarantee Sturridge can replicate the kind of form he displayed alongside Suarez, Lukaku isn't a done deal and I'm not convinced Ibra can play 90 minutes week in, week out.

Aside from players, the influx of new managers means it may take time for Utd, Chelsea and City to adapt to their new managers particularly as other than the former, neither have managed in the Premier League before. This may massively disadvantage those 3 so the ball is in Klopp and Wenger's court and if either are to have a cat in hells chance of getting top 4, they must start the season well!

If Spurs can strike the right balance and juggle their new calendar, they could do really well this term. They have the advantage of continuity both with Poch and in the dressing room remaining reasonably unchanged. They also benefit from having some classy players from back to front including having arguably the best defensive pairing in the league and last seasons golden boot winner!

It's gonna be an interesting year.

what do you mean back on it, he is not off it at the moment!

out injured.

Well unless there's an injury crisis, I think we're fine in the striking department. The only issue is how to get rid of Balotelli.

Sturridge, Origi, and Ings are fine, either one would be capable of leading the line. And then there's Benteke if he's kept on. We also have Firmino who can play up top if we need him, and I think Mané can cover there, too.

Our weaknesses are the fullback positions. Left back in particular with Moreno being error-prone, and we're very thin in the fullback positions. Milner is meant to be our LB cover. With Flanno going on loan and Connor Randall possibly leaving we're getting even thinner. We have Ragnar who can play LB, though, and Sakho and Lovren can cover, and Clyne if we had someone to play at RB, but we're short there, too. Emre Can can cover the fullback positions. There's also Joe Gomez if he can get fit, and stay fit. At RB if something happens to Clyne or if he's made to cover LB then I don't know who'd play there. Henderson, maybe. I'd rather not waste Hendo or Can by making them cover those positions, though.

I've literally just seen that! He literally makes my point for me. Who will they play now, Danny Ings!?

From Fowler and Owen to Torres and Kuyt to Sturridge and Suarez to Danny Ings and Divock Origi!

Klopp clearly has no place for Benteke, he's definitely off. Origi is fine but he won't get you 20+ a season and Danny Ings serves fine for backup but he can't be your number 9. And Sturridge, he's just not reliable!

Saying the likes of Firmino and Mane can cover that position only highlights how you lack a 1st choice striker. Why play your 3rd or 4th choice who are better placed in other areas of the pitch?

You can make the same argument for Arsenal. Giroud is there, why do they need a number 9? Sanchez, Walcott and Welbeck are all options too! But everyone agrees none of them are good enough (other than Sanchez but he's not really a number 9) and they need a world class replacement!

Agreed though, you definitely need a left back! Someone who can maybe play on the right too (if required) would be a good option.

I think you'll just have to wait and see. Origi and Ings will surprise plenty of people this season. Ings will just fit into Klopp's system.

The forward positions are fine, we're not even getting linked to any strikers. They're not a priority.

Origi got 10 goals last season. If it wasn't for his injury I'm confident he'd have had more. If he can stay injury-free then I'm sure he'll get better than that. He has huge potential.

Relaxed about the season ahead because leicester city are the underdogs and that is despite what they did last season.

Leicester will cope with the extra games that being in the champions league. Kante may have gone blinded by the money but we will cope. Cambiasso left and that was seen to be a disaster but it turn out very well indeed for leicester city. I cant see no reason why leicester cant finish around the top six this season

That's the spirit... Keep up that attitude throughout the season!

Still think Vardy will regret not going to Arsenal before we get to bonfire night.

Kante moved to a bigger club, never mind the blinded by the money rubbish.

No way, looking at the business Arsenal have done I think they will be lucky to be top 4 this year

Hear it every year and every year they get in the top 4

If Arsenal finish top 4, without winning it and Leicester say, get top 8, I still don't reckon he would regret not moving.

Players mostly want to challenge themselves at the biggest clubs they can and they have to take the chances when they come along, I dont think Vardy will get the chance again. I suppose having at least won the league once would cushion the blow though, its unlikely he would do it with Arsenal but it would still be a step up club-wise.

Looks like a bad injury for Gabriel at Arsenal there. Always horrible seeing a player badly hurt in pre-season.