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As well as performing well as an individual and making their money back on him, they would still want him to be helping towards them winning trophies though as you said earlier to be seen as a good buy wouldn't they?
If Pogba is in Spain in a couple of years that means he has been playing well and in order to buy him it will cost more than £100m. If Man Utd are in a situation where they can make money selling him I don't see how you can suggest they have paid too much for him now, that's all. |
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Do you think you'll get a marquee signing? Seen a lot of links but nothing concrete.
Still think we need an established goalkeeper, midfielder, and a striker as Lukaku will probably leave at some point in this window or in January The Witsel talk has gone very quiet, and the Draxler rumour is exactly that...No way would we get him as he would want regular CL football and we can't provide that |
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Not in time for the start of the season anyway
Still think we need an established goalkeeper, midfielder, and a striker as Lukaku will probably leave at some point in this window or in January The Witsel talk has gone very quiet, and the Draxler rumour is exactly that...No way would we get him as he would want regular CL football and we can't provide that |
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Not in time for the start of the season anyway
Still think we need an established goalkeeper, midfielder, and a striker as Lukaku will probably leave at some point in this window or in January The Witsel talk has gone very quiet, and the Draxler rumour is exactly that...No way would we get him as he would want regular CL football and we can't provide that |
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Every transfer my club make is great, every transfer other clubs make are crap and over priced.
...am I doing it right? |
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Every transfer my club make is great, every transfer other clubs make are crap and over priced.
...am I doing it right? |
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Liverpool want pretty much the same amount they paid for Benteke to sell him. That's the market now.
how can benteke be worth more as a failure as he was a a decent player? |
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Yep. Personally I can't believe City have spent £7000 trillion on Stones, wages of 2000 tonnes of gold a week as well. And don't get me on the agents fee, a pet chimera is just so outrageous. Thankfully, my club would never spend money like that.
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has this added to the discussion?
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Did your claims Pogba cost £290,000,000?
I claimed he would cost £120m in total, and when its shaken down today it looks like i was very accurate. £89m plus the £20m fees plus the £5m add ons. His wages are around Three Hundred Thousand pounds a week. |
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i never claimed that
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There are £290,000.000 reasons why he didnt want to go anywhere else, plus the £20,000,000 his agent received from brokering the deal.
He certainly didnt come because of CL football, or to link up with Fellaini |
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Its quite ridiculous.
how can benteke be worth more as a failure as he was a a decent player? Given that inflation, Benteke going for the same money is actually a reduction in his value. |
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Juventus are paying the agent's fee supposedly.
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Its quite ridiculous.
how can benteke be worth more as a failure as he was a a decent player? Its because Liverpool are in a very strong position. Because Palace even with the money would find it hard to attract players such as this Because his valuation in 2015 was 32.5m Because Strikers often come at a premium price (more so with one who has scored 50 odd goals here) |
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£89m does seem absurd, even playing the game of 'Well A cost B and X cost Y'..and the obligatory mention of Andy Carroll, but if you look at how much clubs earn these days and what the value of the clubs are, even excluding 'sugar daddy' owned clubs, the £89m paid for Pogba probably represents a smaller dent in the club's finances than £3.75m did for Keane in the early 90s.
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Juventus are paying the agent's fee supposedly.
The economic effect is positive for about € 72.6 million, net of solidarity subsidy and auxiliary expenses |
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i never claimed that at all
I claimed he would cost £120m in total, and when its shaken down today it looks like i was very accurate. £89m plus the £20m fees plus the £5m add ons. His wages are around Three Hundred Thousand pounds a week. Therefore, I'll take your claims about wages with a pinch of salt, as figures don't appear to be your strong point. |
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Its quite ridiculous.
how can benteke be worth more as a failure as he was a a decent player? In the same way city want around 17 million for Nasri. |
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£89m does seem absurd, even playing the game of 'Well A cost B and X cost Y'..and the obligatory mention of Andy Carroll, but if you look at how much clubs earn these days and what the value of the clubs are, even excluding 'sugar daddy' owned clubs, the £89m paid for Pogba probably represents a smaller dent in the club's finances than £3.75m did for Keane in the early 90s.
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Veron and Rio were more costly to us, in terms relative turnover at the time of their signings, then Pogba today.
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They were, but Veron was a bloody awful deal for all concerned so I'm not sure if we should be citing that
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We still somehow managed to get some of the money back after selling him to Chelsea though.😁😁
Not so sure about Stones to City though. He may become even better on the ball but I doubt that move will tighten his defensive skills. Maybe he'll learn for Kompany, if Vincent stays fit... |
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Now that was a good bit of business.
Not so sure about Stones to City though. He may become even better on the ball but I doubt that move will tighten his defensive skills. Maybe he'll learn for Kompany, if Vincent stays fit... They've spent a tidy sum trying to sort out the defense though. |
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I think he'll do alright there. Whatever his faults are, he is good on the ball and Guardiola likes that sort of CB. At Barca and Bayern he had to resort to converting Mascherano and Javi Martinez to get that type of defender.
He's a talented player who could be very good with the right coaching. |
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I think he'll do alright there. Whatever his faults are, he is good on the ball and Guardiola likes that sort of CB. At Barca and Bayern he had to resort to converting Mascherano and Javi Martinez to get that type of defender.
He's a talented player who could be very good with the right coaching. It might be a high price but there's a lot of inflation this season. After a poor season then he probably wouldn't have gone for more than Everton turned down last season but add in the inflation and it's not too surprising. If he had a poor season and the market was the same you'd probably be looking at £30m, which includes the Premier League/English tax. |
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