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And yet he is in charge of the 2nd highest rated international team!
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Are you actually saying tat they type of football played in spain and the PL are the same?
I find that absurd. Just as not every game in Italy is played at a snails pace and is all defensive (Another myth). Whether it be Barcelona, Bayern or now City Guardiola will face sides where his opponents try and press from the front to stop his defenders playing. His faced it before and like I said not every side in the EPL presses like that anyway. In fact most do not. |
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Look you quote clearly were not joking as you have done the same thing throughout this thread and are ruining it for everyone else. Please try to think before you rush to post that's all it takes.
As I say Kompany is an excellent defender, and Stones will (hopefully from an England national team perspective) learn from him, and improve his defending which is still suspect, despite his huge price tag. |
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And you called it a ridiculous appointment and how it shows how ridiculous football has become and how it would not happen in any other industry etc etc etc and yet now you are using it to back up your views.,
So you are saying that martinez was a good manager and belgium made a good appointment and yet saying that stones didnt learn from martinez because he was a terrible everton manager. Quite inconsistent there! |
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It's a cracking thought process from the Belgian FA. Their defence was all square pegs in round holes, so who do they call?
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I was clearly joking, I think I know what I was doing as I was the one that posted it!
As I say Kompany is an excellent defender, and Stones will (hopefully from an England national team perspective) learn from him, and improve his defending which is still suspect, despite his huge price tag. |
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Please stop the patronising responses. It;s obvious what you did, please stop pretending otherwise.
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Pep. Outstanding manager yes, outstanding defensive coach? Two very different things.
Its not as easy as the manager being responsible for improving players, pep cannot take a good CB and make them a fantastic CB. In Spain, defenders are allowed to receive the ball from the keeper, bring it out and pass it forward. However, in the PL if i were playing against city, i would ask one of my players to hound stones all game, never giving him a second on the ball. If he doesnt hoof it up field straightaway, you will get at least one error out of him in 90 minutes, probably more. Most of the successful CBs in PL history are of a certain type. Terry, Carragher, Vidic, Stam, Kompany, even Huth last year. Stones doesnt fit with them. Quote:
From what you have watched of Stones, do you think he has the potential to be one of the best defenders in the world?
[quote=codeblue;83521415]Stones has played for england 10 times, but he is not an england international. /QUOTE] He is. Quote:
I don't know if £50m will be decent value for money if he has a good decade in the team, as they could have invested say £20m in a different young centre back now who could perform to the same level as Stones in the next decade
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Oh come on, I was clearly just joking around, of course Kompany when fit is an excellent defender, that goes without saying really.
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It seems we are not going to agree here, you have it set in your mind, and no amount of answers from me will change that, so let's move on.
Nothing wrong with supporting your club, we all support to the hilt but no point trying to redress the balance after the initial horse has bolted, we all have to balance the plaudits and criticism fairly in this one without having to be prompted. |
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Jeez Bolasie cost that much. English Football really is going crazy.
Average players demanding huge fees like that.
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Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING NEWS: Everton sign Ashley Williams from Swansea on three-year contract for undisclosed fee. #SSNHQ |
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Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING NEWS: Everton sign Ashley Williams from Swansea on three-year contract for undisclosed fee. #SSNHQ Knows the league, experienced, solid, and has previously avoided an attempted murder rap. Got to fear for Swansea, mind. |
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Pretty good signing for Everton, that.
Knows the league, experienced, solid, and has previously avoided an attempted murder rap. Got to fear for Swansea, mind. I think Everton will do well this coming season, Swansea on the other hand, well they are one of the teams who I think could be heading for relegation. |
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Even better news for Everton...Omaur Niasse could be loaned out to Crystal Palace
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Aston Villa manage to become even more embarrassing and what a ridiculous own goal. Laughable
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Villa have managed to start the season playing even worse than they did last season - which is some achievement!
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Villa have managed to start the season playing even worse than they did last season - which is some achievement!
Future endeavoured by Christmas |
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Put money on them going down, rdm was a terrible appointment for them
Future endeavoured by Christmas If not he will be shown the door |
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I've got a fair bit of sympathy for Villa fans.
That club has been grossly mismanaged for years. |
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I'm enjoying it a little. If they drop down to League One quicker than we did I'll laugh my head off, even if they'll get straight back out while we languish here forever.
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Why can't sky show these penalty shootouts live?
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I'm enjoying it a little. If they drop down to League One quicker than we did I'll laugh my head off, even if they'll get straight back out while we languish here forever.
Your mob are paying the price for never appointing Dublin as manager. You can see the pain and longing in his eyes, whenever he's showing us round some run-down, flea-infested, one-bedroom pit in London, with a guide price of £450,000. |
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Put money on them going down, rdm was a terrible appointment for them
Future endeavoured by Christmas |
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How come only half of this draw is live?
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I think Di Matteo now realises what his taken on.
There is a culture of losing and the players are mentally weak. They probably believe they will lose so when falling behind they are finished. Any manager with clout wouldn't take that job. |
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They appear to be ripe for a Leeds/Sheffield Wednesday-style, multi-year purgatory.
Your mob are paying the price for never appointing Dublin as manager. You can see the pain and longing in his eyes, whenever he's showing us round some run-down, flea-infested, one-bedroom pit in London, with a guide price of £450,000. Villa following suit would sadly not surprise me, as unlike Newcastle, there doesn't seem to be much ambition at the club. Bolton could be what they turn into if they are not careful. |
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