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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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Highest Grade
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Except what I posted was not "complete twaddle", as everything I said was correct. This poster DID spend all last season saying those things.

What Ranieri said doesn't matter, if he instilled that mindset into his players all the way through the season I doubt he'd have won the league. I don't believe the manager truly believed that, and if he did that's besides the point.

You only joined in April so you won't have seen it but others will know what I'm talking about.

A poster noticed him being negative so all I did was comment on how negative he was being all last season, meaning that the posts he's making now aren't that surprising.”

Fair do's, I concede you were talking about said poster, but can you blame him for being pessimistic considering we are talking about Leicester winning the BPL? When Ranieri the coach of his team was saying almost the same?

I did lurk for a long time before I joined so know that he was very negative about the title, but I honestly couldn't blame him. There were plenty of people (pro's and fans of football) who doubted Leicester until the very end. Nearly all said they would fade eventually. I believe Ranieri said the same to his players. Great football lads, but you've won nothing yet, it can all change in an instant as evidenced by their previous season. Flying high then BAM, they crashed and just about stayed up.
codeblue
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Interesting comments from Pep on Joe Hart. Really didn't confirm he will be staying let alone be #1.”

joe hart is an interesting character

He was a good goalkeeper, who was hyped by the media so much that fans believed him to be a world class goalkeeper. Unfortunitely hart believed the hyoe too and developed a terrible ego.

Anyway, when a good keeper has a poor run of form, suddenly they are an average keeper, and thats what hart is going though.

Thats not good enough for city, and after he threw a few in at the euros, it is no surprise that he will soon be playing for everton.
Jim De Ville
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Highest Grade:
“Great football lads, but you've won nothing yet, it can all change in an instant as evidenced by their previous season. Flying high then BAM, they crashed and just about stayed up.”

Eh? Are you still talking about Leicester here?
Jim De Ville
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Thats not good enough for city, and after he threw a few in at the euros, it is no surprise that he will soon be playing for everton.”

Hart would be a terrific signing for Everton.

No surprise to see you being so dismissive about both the player, and the club.
dearmrman
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Highest Grade:
“Fair do's, I concede you were talking about said poster, but can you blame him for being pessimistic considering we are talking about Leicester winning the BPL? When Ranieri the coach of his team was saying almost the same?

I did lurk for a long time before I joined so know that he was very negative about the title, but I honestly couldn't blame him. There were plenty of people (pro's and fans of football) who doubted Leicester until the very end. Nearly all said they would fade eventually. I believe Ranieri said the same to his players. Great football lads, but you've won nothing yet, it can all change in an instant as evidenced by their previous season. Flying high then BAM, they crashed and just about stayed up.”

There is been negative and there is leicslad46 who took it to a whole new level, even when it was mathematically impossible for anyone to catch Leicester...i'm sure the poster was still been negative.
leicslad46
12-08-2016
It is hard to say within DS guidelines what sky is guilty of. But i will put it this way. Sky only think that there is only four clubs competing in the pl. When i looked there was 16 other teams. The hype surrounding manchester is over the top. Mourinho is the most arrogant manager and the PL is going to be truly unbearable with him in it. His arrogance is rubbing onto his players already IMHO
Highest Grade
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Eh? Are you still talking about Leicester here?”

Well not exactly flying high as in at the top, but I'm sure they were playing above and beyond their means for quite some time before they crashed. My memory evades me.

I could be horribly wrong though lol.
codeblue
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“The hype surrounding manchester is over the top. Mourinho is the most arrogant manager and the PL is going to be truly unbearable with him in it. His arrogance is rubbing onto his players already IMHO”

It will be their downfall
dearmrman
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“It will be their downfall”

But at least they can experience a couple of seasons of success again before that happens though.
Jim De Ville
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“It is hard to say within DS guidelines what sky is guilty of. But i will put it this way. Sky only think that there is only four clubs competing in the pl. When i looked there was 16 other teams. The hype surrounding manchester is over the top. Mourinho is the most arrogant manager and the PL is going to be truly unbearable with him in it. His arrogance is rubbing onto his players already IMHO”

Again, no-one's forcing you to watch it.

Originally Posted by Highest Grade:
“Well not exactly flying high as in at the top, but I'm sure they were playing above and beyond their means for quite some time before they crashed. My memory evades me.

I could be horribly wrong though lol.”

Pretty sure that Leicester were nailed on to go down, until the last 8-9 games of the season, when they went on a big run.

Originally Posted by codeblue:
“It will be their downfall”

Of course it will.
Jamesp84
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“His arrogance is rubbing onto his players already IMHO”

Why? Show your workings please.
Highest Grade
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Again, no-one's forcing you to watch it.



Pretty sure that Leicester were nailed on to go down, until the last 8-9 games of the season, when they went on a big run.



Of course it will.”

I just checked. Yep I was way out. They were in top 10 after seven games then they dropped to bottom of the league until as you say the last 9 or so games.

I thought they were doing well for longer than that.
celesti
12-08-2016
leicslad is pining for the non-league that he'll keep predicting Leicester will drop to until the end of days
Grim Fandango
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Highest Grade:
“I just checked. Yep I was way out. They were in top 10 after seven games then they dropped to bottom of the league until as you say the last 9 or so games.

I thought they were doing well for longer than that.”

Thing is, they were never playing particularly badly. No one really turned them over that season, they just couldn't get a win, but when they finally got one they went on a run that still hasn't ended!

A word on leicslad: there are plenty of pessimistic football fans on here, but his posts have often been clearly malevolent. For example, back when they were flying high at the top of the championship he could be found saying this:

Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“I am so confident that leicester will fcuk up promotion that i will put a bet on them actually playing championship footie next season”

He has gloried in Leicester's slip ups, and ended up making a massive fool of himself in the process. More or less everyone here is wise to him now.
Jim De Ville
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Highest Grade:
“I just checked. Yep I was way out. They were in top 10 after seven games then they dropped to bottom of the league until as you say the last 9 or so games.

I thought they were doing well for longer than that.”

Fair play, I only really remember because the press made such a song and dance over Pearson getting sacked, and Ranieri getting appointed.

Turns out that it wasn't such a bad call, eh?
carefree_blue
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Grim Fandango:
“He has gloried in Leicester's slip ups, and ended up making a massive fool of himself in the process. More or less everyone here is wise to him now.”

Yep, he's no more a fan of Leicester than Tip top is of Chelsea. Both still keeping the charade going despite being rumbled ages ago.
Bulge_
12-08-2016
Guardiola will drop Hart for tomorrow's game apparently.

Not sure if it counts as being 'dropped' if it's a new manager who hasn't yet picked someone, but you get the point.
TheMunch
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bulge_:
“Guardiola will drop Hart for tomorrow's game apparently.

Not sure if it counts as being 'dropped' if it's a new manager who hasn't yet picked someone, but you get the point.”

Preferring Willy over Hart.

They still want Ter Stegen, apparently, with Everton looking at Hart.
misawa97
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bulge_:
“Guardiola will drop Hart for tomorrow's game apparently.

Not sure if it counts as being 'dropped' if it's a new manager who hasn't yet picked someone, but you get the point.”

It's no real shock.. Hart just doesn't have the distribution skills to work in a Guardiola side.

Problem City have is finding the keeper who does. I'm not sure Barca will allow Ter Stegen to go.
celesti
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Preferring Willy over Hart.”

'The story of Grindr'
batdude_uk1
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by Bulge_:
“Guardiola will drop Hart for tomorrow's game apparently.

Not sure if it counts as being 'dropped' if it's a new manager who hasn't yet picked someone, but you get the point.”

Shame that it is only Sunderland, as I doubt that they will be able to take advantage of the change of goalkeeper.
Chief_Wiggum
13-08-2016
Morning all! Happy new season day!

Best of luck to everyone and their teams for the opening day.

My team competes in League One so my season as a fan started last week, but I still follow Prem football avidly.


Originally Posted by celesti:
“'The story of Grindr'”

Very clever

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Shame that it is only Sunderland, as I doubt that they will be able to take advantage of the change of goalkeeper.”

In what way would a team "take advantage of the change of goalkeeper"? Both Caballero and Hart are experienced goalkeepers with this team. Caballero played every match for Man City in the League Cup. Guardiola is simply choosing which of two established goalkeepers he wants to play against Sunderland.

As far as I'm concerned, neither Hart nor Caballero is good enough to play for Manchester City. Neither is of Champions League quality, and only Hart is good enough on his day to play in the Premier League against the top teams.

I also think the fact that Joe Hart is yet again the #2 goalkeeper at Manchester City will further call his position as England #1 into doubt. Fraser Forster could well be finding himself between the sticks for the Lions more often in future.
kobashi100
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Shame that it is only Sunderland, as I doubt that they will be able to take advantage of the change of goalkeeper.”

If Hart isn't in the team that's pretty much confirmation his city career is done.

Been talk all summer that pep wants a new keeper. Pep wants Marc-Andre ter Stegen but I not sure barca will let him go in this transfer window.
Nova21
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“'The story of Grindr'”

Super stuff!
Bulge_
13-08-2016
Soccer AM seem to have dispelled suggestions it was stuck in the 90s by deciding to have a quintessentially 1997 looking and sounding band to open the show.
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