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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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NorthernNinny
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh no, Union is just an adult version of the children's game "plie on!".

League is quicker and more skillful.”

It probably is and I have friends with the mentality of our code's better than yours, but I can appreciate both.

I do prefer Union though.
robborocks
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“It probably is and I have friends with the mentality of our code's better than yours, but I can appreciate both.

I do prefer Union though.”

Agreed.

I can appreciate both, but for me Union is far superior.
batdude_uk1
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“It probably is and I have friends with the mentality of our code's better than yours, but I can appreciate both.

I do prefer Union though.”

I have tried watching Union, but it is almost American football like in its stop start nature, so much time spent waiting for line-outs, or something else.

I much prefer league as a player has to really be quick in mind, and any mistakes tend to be punished pretty quickly.


Originally Posted by robborocks:
“Agreed.

I can appreciate both, but for me Union is far superior.”

In what aspects my I ask for you think Union is far superior?
Tribec
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I have tried watching Union, but it is almost American football like in its stop start nature, so much time spent waiting for line-outs, or something else.

I much prefer league as a player has to really be quick in mind, and any mistakes tend to be punished pretty quickly.




In what aspects my I ask for you think Union is far superior?”

League is all stop start, with tackle back 10 charge at the line, how's that not like American Football?

With respect, League is a better sport to watch, whilst Union is better to play. Union since going professional has caught up with league in terms of physicality, and in some respect skill set. However, as a spectacle, league is more action, whilst Union is tactics and if I'm being honest the move to summer rugby has had a detriment to League in the UK.
celesti
18-03-2016
Of the two League is definitely more like American Football. As an NFL fan I've got on better with League than I have with Union, admittedly not trying too hard with either.
SnrDev
18-03-2016
Huh? Union, league...?

Anyway back to the football. Good news everyone, Lawro has backed Palace to beat Leicester tomorrow. Given his success in predicting Leicester's results this season that can only be a good thing.
NiteOwl12
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by SnrDev:
“Huh? Union, league...?

Anyway back to the football. Good news everyone, Lawro has backed Palace to beat Leicester tomorrow. Given his success in predicting Leicester's results this season that can only be a good thing.”

This time last season people were beginning to take note of Leicester's long triumphant march away from relegation. This season far more are hanging on to every result of Leicester, each having consequences which ripple far more widely.. What a turn around it has been and what a magnificent return to the premiership it has been for Ranieri, the obvious premier league manager of the year. I am unable to resist comparing Ranieri's telling substitutions with Van Gaal's; the former invariably reaching for victory, the latter reaching for the straitjacket.
SnrDev
18-03-2016
This very weekend a year ago Leicester lost by an og at Spurs, 4-3, and were unlucky to do so. The next game home to W Ham was the first of the winning sequence that carried on v W Brom, Swansea & Burnley with a loss v Chelsea in a re-arranged fixture that had clashed with their LC final. April was the turnaround, and they've kept at it ever since.

I have to say that during that April every matchday was like Cup Final Day in the early 70s for me - massive expectation & hope, but after the away win at Burnley it seemed on. This season, it really is one game at a time, see how it unfurls, hope the others drop points. So far so good. It's getting a bit tense though now.
NiteOwl12
18-03-2016
@ SnrDev

This is good tension though. Almost every team and fan hopes to experience that sort of tension, of being almost within touching distance of one of the great prizes of English football at this point in the season. And if as some say the disappointment of not seizing the prize would be great, how much worse is a season drifting by without even a hint of being in the hunt. and of few memories of it worth keeping.
TheSloth
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh no, Union is just an adult version of the children's game "plie on!".

League is quicker and more skillful.”

Adult you say? Calling the refs Sir and then stealthily interfering with an opponent's dangly bits in the scrum or gouging their eyes is not my definition of adult. We all know Rugby was invented (at a public school) for public schoolboys to extend their questionable habits via cunning concealing them in a sport

If I was taken hostage and forced to keep my eyes open Clockwork Orange style in front of a TV showing rugby, I'd rather it was League - less (ever changing) rules, easier to follow and more room for the players to play. Union is just messed up due to the RFU's (I assume) desperate attempt to make it flow again by tweaking the rules. Not sure what the penalty/try ratio is but it's most likely near Dull on the excitement scale - it was almost watchable in the 70s and 80s...

They should reduce the number of players, get rid of scrums and lineouts, get a proper whistle and make the "ball" round. That'll sort it.

As for tennis...
SnrDev
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by NiteOwl12:
“@ SnrDev

This is good tension though. Almost every team and fan hopes to experience that sort of tension, of being almost within touching distance of one of the great prizes of English football at this point in the season. And if as some say the disappointment of not seizing the prize would be great, how much worse is a season drifting by without even a hint of being in the hunt. and of few memories of it worth keeping.”

Quite right. Good post.
celesti
18-03-2016
I remember going to Fosse Park the day after Leicester got relegated to League One and lolling my head off, seems an age away now.
mikeyddd
18-03-2016
Talking about rugby, which sport do people consider more skill, rugby or football. My choice is football, as it requires more skill to do things with a ball using your feet rather than hands, unless you're a monkey of course. Rugby, at least, union which I tend to watch is far more technical in terms of the laws. Also video replays really slow the game down, sadly it looks like football will be going the same way.
mickthehat
18-03-2016
Thought this was a football thread in the football section and yet people get banned here for taking threads off topic. Awesome moderating
Jim De Ville
18-03-2016
Originally Posted by mikeyddd:
“Talking about rugby, which sport do people consider more skill, rugby or football. My choice is football, as it requires more skill to do things with a ball using your feet rather than hands, unless you're a monkey of course. Rugby, at least, union which I tend to watch is far more technical in terms of the laws. Also video replays really slow the game down, sadly it looks like football will be going the same way.”

Rugby is the only sport that I've ever watched, where I can't see the 'skill'.

Even bowls and darts require some natural talent. When was the last time that you saw a normal looking bloke playing top-level rugby?
batdude_uk1
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by mikeyddd:
“Talking about rugby, which sport do people consider more skill, rugby or football. My choice is football, as it requires more skill to do things with a ball using your feet rather than hands, unless you're a monkey of course. Rugby, at least, union which I tend to watch is far more technical in terms of the laws. Also video replays really slow the game down, sadly it looks like football will be going the same way.”

Rugby League is a very fast paced game, more so then Union I think, and requires more skill from the players, so that is the most skillful form of rugby, however I don't think it is as skillful as football can be (if we look at say what Ronaldinho in his peak could do with a ball).
Eddie hunter
19-03-2016
Rugby Neutrals Thread?
batdude_uk1
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Rugby Neutrals Thread?”

I don't think that there is one, (well not as far as I can see on the "Sport" forum before this "Football" one) is there?
NiteOwl12
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I don't think that there is one, (well not as far as I can see on the "Sport" forum before this "Football" one) is there?”

There is a Rugby League 2016 thread http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2132101 and I might add as a supporter of Leeds Rugby League club for more than 50 years, I think some restraint from fellow rugby supporters would be appreciated. There really is no need at all for off-topic exchanges about rugby in this football thread.
Jamesp84
19-03-2016
Arsenal's chances of winning anything have gone, and suddenly they start playing well again.

Every year without fail. Must drive their fans absolutely potty.
satellite
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Arsenal's chances of winning anything have gone, and suddenly they start playing well again.

Every year without fail. Must drive their fans absolutely potty.”

It does James, we called it already this would happen
MichPlat
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Arsenal's chances of winning anything have gone, and suddenly they start playing well again.

Every year without fail. Must drive their fans absolutely potty.”

They can still win the league if Leicester hit problems , Arsenal have by far the easiest run-in of all the contenders. I'd be more worried about your own team to be honest , as at least the Gunners continue to play decent , exiting footie.
Jamesp84
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by MichPlat:
“They can still win the league if Leicester hit problems , Arsenal have by far the easiest run-in of all the contenders. I'd be more worried about your own team to be honest , as at least the Gunners continue to play decent , exiting footie.”

So am I not allowed to comment?

I don't think you've quite grasped the concept of a neutrals thread, have you dear?
MichPlat
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“So am I not allowed to comment?

I don't think you've quite grasped the concept of a neutrals thread, have you dear?”

Far from it , that's why it's the neutral's thread , as we both know if I'd made that comment in the United thread I'd have ended up with a ban.
batdude_uk1
19-03-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Arsenal's chances of winning anything have gone, and suddenly they start playing well again.

Every year without fail. Must drive their fans absolutely potty.”

It is why until Wenger leaves, they won't win the league, the same symptoms persist every year without fail.
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