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redknapp on sky already saying that "he is not that type of player"
quinn "he withdrew the power at the last second" The other point is that after watching the the clip numerous times in slow motion it's clear that he didn't even touch the guy with his elbow - the contact was made with the back of his hand /wrist and sadly it cought the guy in in throat which would have been painful . I still think that he was reckless but there was no intent to hurt the guy . |
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#8177 |
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Well tbh I've never even seen KunA even foul anyone let alone do anything malicious or try and hurt someone . I'm surprised he's been charged as the ref was just a few yards away and looking directly at the two players SO how could he have missed the incident.
The other point is that after watching the the clip numerous times in slow motion it's clear that he didn't even touch the guy with his elbow - the contact was made with the back of his hand /wrist and sadly it cought the guy in in throat which would have been painful . I still think that he was reckless but there was no intent to hurt the guy . |
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Well tbh I've never even seen KunA even foul anyone let alone do anything malicious or try and hurt someone . I'm surprised he's been charged as the ref was just a few yards away and looking directly at the two players SO how could he have missed the incident.
The other point is that after watching the the clip numerous times in slow motion it's clear that he didn't even touch the guy with his elbow - the contact was made with the back of his hand /wrist and sadly it cought the guy in in throat which would have been painful . I still think that he was reckless but there was no intent to hurt the guy . |
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Jack Wilshere is listening to loan offers from Palace, Watford, Bournemouth, Benfica and Sporting Lisbon
Probably go to one of the latter as they are in Europe.. |
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Well tbh I've never even seen KunA even foul anyone let alone do anything malicious or try and hurt someone . I'm surprised he's been charged as the ref was just a few yards away and looking directly at the two players SO how could he have missed the incident.
The other point is that after watching the the clip numerous times in slow motion it's clear that he didn't even touch the guy with his elbow - the contact was made with the back of his hand /wrist and sadly it cought the guy in in throat which would have been painful . I still think that he was reckless but there was no intent to hurt the guy . And it shouldn't matter if there isn't contact with the elbow, the intent is enough to get the ban. If you throw a punch at someone and you miss, you should still get banned. |
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So the fact he missed with his elbow makes him not guilty? The fact he had his fist clenched is a sign he meant to elbow him, even if he missed, the intent was still there.
I've already said that it was a reckless thing to do but not malicious . He should have got a yellow at the time but he certainly doesn't deserve a ban of any length IMHO . |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDDOxa_0PG0
And it shouldn't matter if there isn't contact with the elbow, the intent is enough to get the ban. If you throw a punch at someone and you miss, you should still get banned. It goes on all the time .... |
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It wasn't a punch though ... I think he was just frustrated at not getting any protection from the ref ( throughout the match ) and decided to give the other guy a bit back .
It goes on all the time .... |
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I'm sure it does, but it doesn't excuse the action. I think he got away with something a few years back if I remember so I won't be shedding any tears over the charge,
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Of course your not, one of the best strikers in the world and now you don't have to face him, I wouldn't expect anything less..
It was a nailed-on red card offence. No point in trying to defend it. |
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He made contact with his wrist though which isn't even close to being an elbow .
I've already said that it was a reckless thing to do but not malicious . He should have got a yellow at the time but he certainly doesn't deserve a ban of any length IMHO . |
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'KunA'?
Suddenly 'Wazza' doesn't seem so bad. |
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I think that you're looking at it a little too sympathetically.
It was a nailed-on red card offence. No point in trying to defend it. The bit I don't understand if Marriner saying he didn't see it, it's blatantly obvious he had the best view yet didn't give anything. I'd rather they could come out and say they've got decisions wrong than have to say they didn't see it. |
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I'm sure it does, but it doesn't excuse the action. I think he got away with something a few years back if I remember so I won't be shedding any tears over the charge,
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I'm trying to imagine my reaction to the incident if it was Rooney or Fellaini as I don't see anything malicious in there, just a flailing arm which I can guarantee you'll see in a few matches next week that'll go unpunished.
The bit I don't understand if Marriner saying he didn't see it, it's blatantly obvious he had the best view yet didn't give anything. I'd rather they could come out and say they've got decisions wrong than have to say they didn't see it. You can criticise the referee by all means, but it doesn't change the reality of the incident. |
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Come on, BP, you're usually a pretty fair poster. It wasn't a 'flailing arm' at all. He swung an elbow, with intent.
You can criticise the referee by all means, but it doesn't change the reality of the incident. |
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Fair enough, he'll probably be on one of his 6 week injury lay offs anyway now.
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Fair enough, he'll probably be on one of his 6 week injury lay offs anyway now.
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It's about time Aguero's luck ran out with escaping bans. He's been very fortuitous up till now (stamps on David Luiz and Mark Noble to name a couple of incidents where he showed his dirtier side).
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I genuinely can't understand how anyone can even be trying to defend his actions on the basis of not making contact with the elbow. At the end of the day he tried to elbow someone in the face and that is what matters.
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I genuinely can't understand how anyone can even be trying to defend his actions on the basis of not making contact with the elbow. At the end of the day he tried to elbow someone in the face and that is what matters.
a two footed wild lunge gets a red card even if it doesnt break a players leg |
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As usual, rival fans will always spend much more time analysing such incidents in the prosecutor stance than similar incidents involving their own players (who they'll mostly defend or stay strategically quiet about). That's just par for tie course being a football fan.
Fact remains, he's guilty and has been rightly charged. |
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Come on, BP, you're usually a pretty fair poster. It wasn't a 'flailing arm' at all. He swung an elbow, with intent.
You can criticise the referee by all means, but it doesn't change the reality of the incident. He meant to do damage to his opponent, and he was very lucky to get away with it during the match. |
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I wouldn't worry too much. As great as he is, you have enough in reserve to still be a massive headache for opponents.
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To be fair though, Indeacho is a mighty good young player, but is not quite in the same category as Aguero just yet, so it is fairly understandable, if some City fans were worried about this short ban.
Oh, and it's Iheanacho. C&P is your friend. |
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