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Old 02-09-2016, 21:14
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Yes, utterly crazy, what were they thinking, it was obvious he did it on purpose. I hate elbowing and would condemn whoever did it.
They was thinking they might win the appeal.

The appeal cost them nothing.

Even if the chances of success was 2% it was still worth doing as no appeal meant no chance.
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Old 02-09-2016, 21:18
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Yaya Toure:

Yaya Toure (#MCFC): "I'm not surprised that he [Guardiola] has left me out [of the #UCL squad]. I know he has a grudge against Africans."


Playing the race card. Classy. Should be more like the better brother, Kolo. Go eat some cake.

If he really thinks that he should go challenge it, but he won't.
Yeah, unless he has some evidence for that other than just 'I wasn't selected therefore he hates Africans' then it reflects very poorly on him. Although, what else is new.

Commonsense has prevailed.

Madness appealing it though by City, there was nothing to appeal, he elbowed him on purpose, I would have loved to have seen their letter to The FA panel about why they thought he should be let off.
As has been explained multiple times, City were trying to argue the referee saw it based on the footage which shows the referee was facing the incident. While it was unlikely to be successful, there was something to appeal.
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Old 02-09-2016, 21:38
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Yeah, unless he has some evidence for that other than just 'I wasn't selected therefore he hates Africans' then it reflects very poorly on him. Although, what else is new.



As has been explained multiple times, City were trying to argue the referee saw it based on the footage which shows the referee was facing the incident. While it was unlikely to be successful, there was something to appeal.
So City were calling the referee a liar then, I hope they won't expect any favours from him in future. It was all a waste of time and money.
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Old 02-09-2016, 21:52
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Yeah, unless he has some evidence for that other than just 'I wasn't selected therefore he hates Africans' then it reflects very poorly on him. Although, what else is new.



As has been explained multiple times, City were trying to argue the referee saw it based on the footage which shows the referee was facing the incident. While it was unlikely to be successful, there was something to appeal.
Just because the referee was facing the incident that doesn't mean he saw it, unless there is new technology which gives what the referee actually saw, then City were basing their appeal on nothing really.
If the referee says that he didn't see it, then where exactly does an appeal come in?
Are City claiming that the referee is lying?
I just don't see on what grounds they have to appeal, it was just a blatant attempt to get out of this ban, where he fully deserved a red card.
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Old 02-09-2016, 21:58
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That grudge against Africans seems to have missed out Nigerian international Iheanacho.
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Old 02-09-2016, 21:58
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Just because the referee was facing the incident that doesn't mean he saw it, unless there is new technology which gives what the referee actually saw, then City were basing their appeal on nothing really.
If the referee says that he didn't see it, then where exactly does an appeal come in?
Are City claiming that the referee is lying?
I just don't see on what grounds they have to appeal, it was just a blatant attempt to get out of this ban, where he fully deserved a red card.
A appeal against a ban is a attempt to get out of a ban?

Really? That's come as a real shock
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:09
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The dictionary definition of the word 'appeal' already had it covered, and luckily without needing dozens of paragraphs or else nobody could lift a copy on their own.
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:10
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Welsh guy? He is from Acton and has probably never been to wales in his life!

He represented England at under 19s and 21 levels!

Pretty sure he played for Wales but it's nothing new if he isn't Welsh .... Sam Alladyce is apparently scouring the Internet for players with English roots ...
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:18
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Just because the referee was facing the incident that doesn't mean he saw it, unless there is new technology which gives what the referee actually saw, then City were basing their appeal on nothing really.
If the referee says that he didn't see it, then where exactly does an appeal come in?
Are City claiming that the referee is lying?
I just don't see on what grounds they have to appeal, it was just a blatant attempt to get out of this ban, where he fully deserved a red card.
Let's make this simple.

They appealed because they could not believe the referee hadn't seen it given his position and clear line of sight.

This assertion by the referee was the key reason that led to the retrospective charge and it warranted questioning irrespective of Aguero's guilt as it brings into question the referee's proficiency.

If such things aren't challenged the officials have an easy out in such cases but they should also be held to account for their actions - the referee should have seen the incident and sent the player off.

In summary, City were right to appeal for the reasons cited and the charge was rightly upheld given the evidence. Both player and official were in the wrong for differing reasons.

Now give it a rest.
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:24
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Someone quickly predict a team will finish above Man Utd, it'll divert the attention like jingling keys at a toddler.
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:29
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Pretty sure he played for Wales but it's nothing new if he isn't Welsh .... Sam Alladyce is apparently scouring the Internet for players with English roots ...
Are there any Brazilians who have an English Grandmother
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:31
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I had my suspicions about Fred and his younger brother Bert.
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Old 02-09-2016, 22:46
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I had my suspicions about Fred and his younger brother Bert.
What about his Half brother

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Old 02-09-2016, 23:48
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Are there any Brazilians who have an English Grandmother
According to one prominent footballer, there are some English grandmothers with a Brazilian...
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:37
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Made up quote started by someone on Twitter.

Some guy called Simon Rowntree, also posted lots of other crap.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:04
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Rowntree is a fake sports journalist, even his twitter photo is stolen from a stock photo site.

He just makes up controversial stories.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:17
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Rowntree is a fake sports journalist, even his twitter photo is stolen from a stock photo site.

He just makes up controversial stories.
God, why would you bother like?

International breaks are so boring....
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:20
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Apparently scholes has said wilshere should have chosen to play abroad, this coming from someone who spent his entire career at man u. I think jack chose right. The bigger the team the less games he plays and anyone who says its not just about playing but experiencing what its like abroad is talking bollocks. He needs to be playing otherwise he might as well stay put.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:27
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Apparently scholes has said wilshere should have chosen to play abroad, this coming from someone who spent his entire career at man u. I think jack chose right. The bigger the team the less games he plays and anyone who says its not just about playing but experiencing what its like abroad is talking bollocks. He needs to be playing otherwise he might as well stay put.
Reports say his agent had a deal agreed with Roma just Arsenal blocked it
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:46
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Scholes not leaving Man Utd doesn't make him a hypocrite, it's not like he turned down Milan to sign for Sunderland.
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Old 03-09-2016, 12:53
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Apparently scholes has said wilshere should have chosen to play abroad, this coming from someone who spent his entire career at man u. I think jack chose right. The bigger the team the less games he plays and anyone who says its not just about playing but experiencing what its like abroad is talking bollocks. He needs to be playing otherwise he might as well stay put.
I don't remember Scholes struggling to get in Utd's starting 11.

I agree with Scholes though, Roma would have been the better option if Arsenal hadn't blocked it as the rumours suggest.
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Old 07-09-2016, 17:19
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Really interesting article/interview here: https://www.theguardian.com/football...lp-look-for-it
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Old 07-09-2016, 20:39
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Yeah I am really looking forward to his book, going to get myself a copy.
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Old 08-09-2016, 17:49
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Another advantage to Barca with the transfer ban for the Madrid clubs?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37312487
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Old 10-09-2016, 12:30
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Selecting Mkhitaryan is a wise move - I think Jose wanted more threat on the break looking at the two changes.

As for the Old Firm, it may be massive in terms of bitterness and intensity but it's way down the list in terms of quality. I'll be switching over at 12:30 to the Manchester derby.
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