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Who is this yag yelka that seems to be playing for Everton
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Sunderland destroyed in an 11 minute spell.
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Another season of Struggle it looks like for Sunderland. Their supporters must be getting a tad fed up with this
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Sunderland destroyed in an 11 minute spell.
Sunderlands season usually doesn't get going till about April |
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Who is this yag yelka that seems to be playing for Everton
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Everton seem improved but Sunderland will be in trouble again I feel.
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Everton looked a very different quality to Sunderland, almost throughout.
I think this is the year for Sunderland to go down. |
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Everton looked a very different quality to Sunderland, almost throughout.
I think this is the year for Sunderland to go down. As for Everton, they were my dark horse bet for the title and it's all due to the manager. They will be in trouble if Lukaku is not consistent though and what the hell is happeneing to Ross Barkley? Guy had a mid-season surge last season and has now gone backwards (again). |
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If they keep Moyes, yes. Guy has to be heading for his third sacking in a row. I don't think Stoke will go down and some of the others in the relegation slots will surely change places, but Sunderland have been toxic for a while now. Moyes ain't the antidote.
As for Everton, they were my dark horse bet for the title and it's all due to the manager. They will be in trouble if Lukaku is not consistent though and what the hell is happeneing to Ross Barkley? Guy had a mid-season surge last season and has now gone backwards (again). I know they have a decent team but it's a bit of a stretch that.
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Everton looked a very different quality to Sunderland, almost throughout.
I think this is the year for Sunderland to go down. |
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They will if they carry on as they are...where was the fight, the passion...it even seems to have drained out of Moyes with only a few games gone.
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A nice gesture by Everton, who have donated £200,000 to Bradley Lowery.
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/b...rton-1-8117390 |
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Dark horse bet for the title?
I know they have a decent team but it's a bit of a stretch that. ![]()
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As stretchy as the pants that you'll be presenting MOTD in?
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Yes hart a decent keeper but prone to errors.
However I am not sure what relevance this sweeper keeper role has in English football as I can see the likes of Andy Carroll and even Diego Costa causing him to make blunders. 15 million for a 34 year old is way too much also, 33 isn't really that old for a keeper. they can easily get a good few years out of him if they so wish. |
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football is football. the fact it's English has no relevance whatsoever. the idea is to play out from the back. Barcelona do it in Spain and all across Europe, including against all the English teams they face. they're not the only ones either. if the players are good enough, then they can receive and play the ball even when being pressed and closed down, whoever it is doing the pressing. it's Pep's job to ensure they're good enough.
also, 33 isn't really that old for a keeper. they can easily get a good few years out of him if they so wish. Football isn't football at all, otherwise you would never have players struggling to adapt to the styles of different countries. |
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Moyes will get sunderland relegated, although he will have been removed from the managerial position long before then.
Its typical of the PL. Time after time they employ abject failures. Moyes has a proven track record of being useless. But "he can do a job for them" cry his friends in the media.... Somehow this will not be moyes' fault. After a month away from the limelight a PL manager will be sacked and the call will be for Moyes to replace them. All too predictable. Big sam was a rat who jumped off a sinking ship. |
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Moyes will get sunderland relegated, although he will have been removed from the managerial position long before then.
Its typical of the PL. Time after time they employ abject failures. Moyes has a proven track record of being useless. But "he can do a job for them" cry his friends in the media.... Somehow this will not be moyes' fault. After a month away from the limelight a PL manager will be sacked and the call will be for Moyes to replace them. All too predictable. Big sam was a rat who jumped off a sinking ship. |
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Moyes will get sunderland relegated, although he will have been removed from the managerial position long before then.
Its typical of the PL. Time after time they employ abject failures. Moyes has a proven track record of being useless. But "he can do a job for them" cry his friends in the media.... Somehow this will not be moyes' fault. After a month away from the limelight a PL manager will be sacked and the call will be for Moyes to replace them. All too predictable. Big sam was a rat who jumped off a sinking ship. The decision to appoint him for that job gets more ludicrous every passing day especially when you look at what he's done since. |
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Moyes turned Everton round in a manner that would be ideal for Sunderland. It wasn't an outrageous appointment.
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Moyes has spent the last decade being comically outraged by everything on the internet, so the comparison works perfectly.
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The decision to appoint him for that job gets more ludicrous every passing day especially when you look at what he's done since.
Moyes managing United was the same experiment. As it turns out, journeymen PL dinosaurs cannot handle top level appointments at home or in Spain. |
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Nearly 20 years ago i was first in the 100m in the school sports day.
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It has relevance if the game in England is faster therefore the keeper is getting closed down quicker than he would be used to? At least initially that has to be a factor I would have thought?
Football isn't football at all, otherwise you would never have players struggling to adapt to the styles of different countries. adapting to a different country generally has more to do with other factors such as the actual team you join, environment, family/living arrangements, language barrier etc than it does the supposed style, given that there's no one style for ANY country. some teams play faster, others play slower, some play a possession game, others play a counter-attacking game etc. I always use the example of Fernando Torres, who looked like the best striker in the world at Liverpool, and the worst in the world at Chelsea. had his form at each club been exactly the same, but just the other way round so he played for Chelsea first, his Chelsea form would have been put down to him not being able to adapt to the English game etc, and attributed his subsequent Liverpool form to him finally settling and adapting. similarly there are plenty of English players that have been crap at one club and great at another, and that's just accepted as being the case. but once it's a player coming from overseas, then he's suddenly struggling to adapt to the English game. it's never really made any sense to me. |
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on what are you basing this on though? regardless of the pace of the game in England, not every team closes down in the way you're claiming, and there's nothing to suggest that those that do so do it any quicker than anywhere else. if you can show me how Bravo would get closed down any quicker in England than he has in some games against Real, Sevilla, Athletic Bilbao, Atletico or Betis, then I'll happily concede the point.
adapting to a different country generally has more to do with other factors such as the actual team you join, environment, family/living arrangements, language barrier etc than it does the supposed style, given that there's no one style for ANY country. some teams play faster, others play slower, some play a possession game, others play a counter-attacking game etc. I always use the example of Fernando Torres, who looked like the best striker in the world at Liverpool, and the worst in the world at Chelsea. had his form at each club been exactly the same, but just the other way round so he played for Chelsea first, his Chelsea form would have been put down to him not being able to adapt to the English game etc, and attributed his subsequent Liverpool form to him finally settling and adapting. similarly there are plenty of English players that have been crap at one club and great at another, and that's just accepted as being the case. but once it's a player coming from overseas, then he's suddenly struggling to adapt to the English game. it's never really made any sense to me. |
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