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I know some aren't fans of Martin Samuel but he nails it every time when talking about UEFA.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo..._campaign=1490 |
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I know some aren't fans of Martin Samuel but he nails it every time when talking about UEFA.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo..._campaign=1490 Apart from the failed performance enhancing drugs tests? Amazing how history is forgotten, if your face fits. |
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"Of course Guardiola is mystified that the Champions League anthem is booed at the Etihad Stadium. He has lived happily on the right side of the tracks throughout his magnificent career."
Apart from the failed performance enhancing drugs tests? Amazing how history is forgotten, if your face fits. Big bad UEFA. |
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Not sure why you'd pick that out of the entire article but fair enough.
Cleared in 2009 https://www.theguardian.com/football...appeal-brescia |
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Not sure why you'd pick that out of the entire article but fair enough.
Cleared in 2009 https://www.theguardian.com/football...appeal-brescia he is a cheat. doesnt stop him being a great manager though. |
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he has been found to have steroids in his system more than once.
he is a cheat. doesnt stop him being a great manager though. |
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Yaya Toure is an idiot
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Yaya Toure is an idiot
Such a shame as he has been very important in terms of us winning the league and cups, yet for me personally I still hold players like Goater and Dickov in higher regard than this tool. |
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When Toure parted from Barca, there must have been a lot of animosity between him and Guardiola. No doubt it has spilled over to Man City. They were never to to get along and Toure's agent just has a knack for making things worst because of his rather big mouth.
Much like Mourinho and Mata, that is forever going to be a hostile relationship, no matter what Mata does he's going to be on the sidelines. |
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Much like Mourinho and Mata, that is forever going to be a hostile relationship, no matter what Mata does he's going to be on the sidelines.
Thinking of JM's public criticism of Shaw at the weekend is football the only sport with this variation of "omerta"? If a F1 driver does something stupid the team manager will be the first blame him. If an England batsman get out at a critical time with a particularly daft shot he will feel the full force of criticism. Even Andy Murray is not exempt from public criticism despite being the best tennis play in the UK ever. So why not give footballers a public telling off? It might make some of them realise what they have to do for their excessive salaries. |
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So why not give footballers a public telling off? It might make some of them realise what they have to do for their excessive salaries.
long-held culture of rollicking behind closed doors which has served many winning teams and managers well. The trick is to know who to do it to and to do it for the right reasons. Koeman did it to Barkley the other day and got a good response next game. My biggest problem with Jose singling out Shaw is that there are at least five or six players that have deserved a public shaming over any of the last three games but didn't get one. It almost seems as if he was picking on Shaw because he's young and not a big character. I'm sure that wasn't the case but I hope the other players that need a backside-kicking get theirs as well when it matters.... |
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Footballers do expect public criticism but usually it's as a collective or if they make a real chock up.
F1 drivers and Andy Murrsy are individual sportsmen so it's a bit different I think. I'd be asking who was marking Capoue and our 2nd goal scorer.. both given ample room to fire home first time just inside the area. Probably Pogba or Rooney so Jose didn't want to come out and upset them as he sees them as vital to his squad having spent 90 million on the former. Somebody like Shaw is more likely to be replaced if Man U have the chance to sign a full back. All through the 1st half when Shaw was on the dugout side he was being told what to do by the coaching team. |
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There is a time and place to throw a player under the proverbial bus, it isn't something that works and can have a really negative effect on players and the club in general. No sport should be or is immune to this, but it has to be a very careful tactic to use, and do it to much and the support of the team will turn against the coach, as well as players not wanting to play for them.
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There is a time and place to throw a player under the proverbial bus, it isn't something that works and can have a really negative effect on players and the club in general. No sport should be or is immune to this, but it has to be a very careful tactic to use, and do it to much and the support of the team will turn against the coach, as well as players not wanting to play for them.
Christ, what a bunch of soft arses. |
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When Toure parted from Barca, there must have been a lot of animosity between him and Guardiola. No doubt it has spilled over to Man City. They were never to to get along and Toure's agent just has a knack for making things worst because of his rather big mouth.
Much like Mourinho and Mata, that is forever going to be a hostile relationship, no matter what Mata does he's going to be on the sidelines. |
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Yaya's agent has clearly lost the plot, ranting on like a madman that pep should be apologising to everyone. I don't agree with how he treated hart, he should have been given a chance pep certainly doesn't need to apologise him and certainly not to pellegrini.
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City seem happy to throw £200,000 a week wages to Toure for nothing.
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Not too a dissimilar situation going on with Mourinho and Schweinsteiger.
Schweinsteiger's agent seems to be less of a tool but Mourinho seems desperate to shift him and his massive salary off the books by any means necessary. |
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Not too a dissimilar situation going on with Mourinho and Schweinsteiger.
Schweinsteiger's agent seems to be less of a tool but Mourinho seems desperate to shift him and his massive salary off the books by any means necessary. |
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By humiliating them
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I presume he's still getting paid for this humiliation?
Sign me up please! i also wonder how pep and city would get on in court with the yaya toure debacle |
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you could do better than that, as we have seen, constructive dismissal.
i also wonder how pep and city would get on in court with the yaya toure debacle |
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yaya toure prob trying to do a rooney, throw a hissy fit and get rewarded with a new contract and captaincy! then you can play poorly as you want and not be dropped lol
i like yaya as a player, shame we wont see him much in his final year at city |
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Yaya's agent made it sound like he wasnt allowed to leave in the summer and he seems to be looking for an exit in the next transfer window, so all this is probably planned so Pep will want to sell him at any price or even a free in the new year.
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So a player no longer deemed part of the managers plans is within his rights to go running to the courts ?
a world cup winner being asked to play in the reserves, not to come in or interact with first team players is horrible bullying. all it will take is for just one player to do this, and the flood gates will open. |
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