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#8826 |
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The ref obviously dosent like Vardy, was clearly a foul
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#8827 |
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Is this proving United don't need Rooney ?? , this whole stuff about where to play Rooney really is a problem for both club and Country , and its like a weight around the neck of the team , take that weight away and everyone is freer
They had so many chances to shift him for megabucks but stuck with him. Rooney is well past his sell by date, has the odd good game but those are getting more and more rare. |
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#8828 |
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Oh dear
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45 minutes that probably just ended Wayne Rooneys Man Utd career.
A half of football that proves two things. First Rooney should never have been starting games this season and secondly, Leicester are a mid table side at best. |
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I did not think Leicester would be getting taken completely apart the way they are so far
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Leicester failed to take advantage of United's nerves in defence early on and the first goal then evaporated the tension. Pundits still not giving the departed Kante any credit for why the Leicester defence looks far more vulnerable.
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No I don't, truth be told; I just find it hard to believe that the FA took mitigating factors into account and still thought the offence deserved such a sizeable ban of four matches.
If that did, happen, though - implying that a normal ban for this offence would have been in the region of half a dozen games - then I think it's an overreaction to the scale of the offence and one that has its grounding in other factors. Quote:
I don't agree, I think it's absolutely relevant - if, in this instance, the offensive comments were only discovered as the result of a Liverpool fan trawling through Andre Gray's tweets to find something he could publicise and send to the FA in retribution for the goal he scored which beat the side he supports.
We can't be having situations where disciplinary matters are created purely as a result of fan intervention, particularly for that reason. As for the bit in bold, wasn't John Terry's racist language only brought to light due to a complaint from a member of the public? And was his motive questioned? Yes the Gray thing may well have only come to light through a disgruntled Liverpool fan but that's not a reason to disregard it. If he hadn't done it in the first place it wouldn't be an issue. It's not like Gray's offence has been manufactured by someone else. Quote:
And that's what I mean when I say that Gray's suspension had a grounding in other factors, namely that discrimination is the current hot button issue in football at the moment and the FA had to be seen to be taking a firm line over it.
Whether the punishment actually fitted the crime seems to be of little consequence. |
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Imagine how much more fluid England would be without chugger Rooney shoehorned into the side. Rooney getting dropped from the Man Utd team for a long period is the only way to get him out of the England side (although Allardyce still wont have the balls to do it).
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If Leicester get hammered here by a couple more, the next few games for them will be really telling on how their season will pan out imo , if they let this get to them they could struggle and be back to struggling at Christmas
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Leicester throw in the towel with those subs. Wrong message.
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Leicester throw in the towel with those subs. Wrong message.
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Leicester throw in the towel with those subs. Wrong message.
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Good goal ,, if they get another one it might get interesting
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Good goal ,, if they get another one it might get interesting
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In a glass half full kind of way, Leicester won the second half 1-0
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In a glass half full kind of way, Leicester won the second half 1-0
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They "won" nothing. History shows that more often then not, when a team is cruising at half time they simply ease off in the second half with the job already done. There was no "winning" on Leicesters part today.
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No I don't, truth be told; I just find it hard to believe that the FA took mitigating factors into account and still thought the offence deserved such a sizeable ban of four matches.
If that did, happen, though - implying that a normal ban for this offence would have been in the region of half a dozen games - then I think it's an overreaction to the scale of the offence and one that has its grounding in other factors. I don't agree, I think it's absolutely relevant - if, in this instance, the offensive comments were only discovered as the result of a Liverpool fan trawling through Andre Gray's tweets to find something he could publicise and send to the FA in retribution for the goal he scored which beat the side he supports. We can't be having situations where disciplinary matters are created purely as a result of fan intervention, particularly for that reason. And that's what I mean when I say that Gray's suspension had a grounding in other factors, namely that discrimination is the current hot button issue in football at the moment and the FA had to be seen to be taking a firm line over it. Whether the punishment actually fitted the crime seems to be of little consequence. But it seems a ridiculous precedent to set. If Gray was 18 and made comments four years ago at 14, would you be subject to punishment? It is inevitable an instance like this will arise. What age is punishable? How many years back do you go? 20 years? What if another tweet of a similar nature is discovered to have been made by Gray next month. Does he serve another punishment, or will it have been deemed to be part of this one. I am still not convinced that any footballer needs to be on Twitter. This will result in a rise of every player who scores against a club having their fans scrawl through ten years of media posts to look for misdemeanour. |
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If Leicester get hammered here by a couple more, the next few games for them will be really telling on how their season will pan out imo , if they let this get to them they could struggle and be back to struggling at Christmas
As for United, a glimpse of what they could be today, but time will tell. |
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No mention of Pogba being quiet today?
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No mention of Pogba being quiet today?
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Wonder if that late equaliser might mean the end for mark hughes
Edit unless David Moyes beats him to it |
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#8849 |
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Wonder if that late equaliser might mean the end for mark hughes
Stoke play Sunderland on October 15th and it's not beyond the realms of possibility that both teams could be going into that match with a new man in charge. |
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#8850 |
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Moyes sacked 100%.
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