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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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ScousingScowler
30-10-2016
Conte has found his magic back 3, Azpilicueta, David Luiz and Cahill.

4 league games, 4 clean sheets.
Mark F
30-10-2016
Impressive form by Chelsea.

The switch in formation has worked very well.

No questions asked as to why Terry isn't playing which has happened in the past.
DUNDEEBOY
30-10-2016
At the moment the title race is the top 4 with Spurs just behind that the rest nowhere
Hayden
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by ScousingScowler:
“Conte has found his magic back 3, Azpilicueta, David Luiz and Cahill.

4 league games, 4 clean sheets.”

Azpilicueta is a fantastic player.
batdude_uk1
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“At the moment the title race is the top 4 with Spurs just behind that the rest nowhere”

No love for Everton then?
dearmrman
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“No love for Everton then?”

The poster is being realistic...Everton should be fighting for a Europa League place with Man Utd
batdude_uk1
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“The poster is being realistic...Everton should be fighting for a Europa League place with Man Utd ”

With a striker of the calibre of Lukaku, then I am not writing them out of a top four push.
dearmrman
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“With a striker of the calibre of Lukaku, then I am not writing them out of a top four push.”

They haven't got a strong enough squad in depth to maintain a top 4 finish realistically...it's not impossible just improbable even with Lukaku, but credit should also go to the team, as they are working mainly as a unit rather than one man.
TheMunch
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“With a striker of the calibre of Lukaku, then I am not writing them out of a top four push.”

Lukaku's not a bad player for someone who's regressed since his Anderlecht days, when he left at the ripe old age of 18.
owen10
30-10-2016
I can see Frank De Boer being sacked from Inter Milan before David Moyes is sacked from Sunderland

How about a job swap guys
batdude_uk1
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“They haven't got a strong enough squad in depth to maintain a top 4 finish realistically...it's not impossible just improbable even with Lukaku, but credit should also go to the team, as they are working mainly as a unit rather than one man.”

We saw last season how a team can be bigger than their collective parts, and so for that reason alone, I am not writing them off just yet from pushing the top teams all the way.

Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Lukaku's not a bad player for someone who's regressed since his Anderlecht days, when he left at the ripe old age of 18. ”

Touche.

He is still their best striker, and someone who can and does pop up with important goals for them.

Originally Posted by owen10:
“I can see Frank De Boer being sacked from Inter Milan before David Moyes is sacked from Sunderland

How about a job swap guys ”

I am not too sure if Inter would be happy about that, although I would think Sunderland would be fine what that arrangement.

Inter just seem to be a club always chasing something, with no set plan, and things just look haphazard there, a hodgepodge of players from different coaches.
ScousingScowler
30-10-2016
Moyes is damaged goods now after 3 flops in a row. No top division team is going to go near him.
owen10
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“We saw last season how a team can be bigger than their collective parts, and so for that reason alone, I am not writing them off just yet from pushing the top teams all the way.



Touche.

He is still their best striker, and someone who can and does pop up with important goals for them.



I am not too sure if Inter would be happy about that, although I would think Sunderland would be fine what that arrangement.

Inter just seem to be a club always chasing something, with no set plan, and things just look haphazard there, a hodgepodge of players from different coaches.”

Inter reminds me of a club that is lying bottom of the Premier League
batdude_uk1
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Inter reminds me of a club that is lying bottom of the Premier League ”

They are a bit of an omnishambles, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they are the Italian version of Sunderland quite just yet.
k0213818
30-10-2016
One thing I have wondered after this week:

If Moyes was to leave Sunderland do you think they would be brave enough to rehire Allardyce given his recent scandals?
NorthernNinny
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I can see Frank De Boer being sacked from Inter Milan before David Moyes is sacked from Sunderland

How about a job swap guys ”

Nooooooo.

Moyes needs more time......
FMKK
30-10-2016
I must say, I'm finding Conte's Chelsea fascinating to watch tactically, mainly because managers playing 3-5-2 type formations in England tend to be derided by the pundits but it's something he's had great success with in the past. Maybe if Chelsea get somewhere with this set up others in the league will try their own version, just like 4-3-3 became more popular after Mourinho's first Chelsea spell.
owen10
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I must say, I'm finding Conte's Chelsea fascinating to watch tactically, mainly because managers playing 3-5-2 type formations in England tend to be derided by the pundits but it's something he's had great success with in the past. Maybe if Chelsea get somewhere with this set up others in the league will try their own version, just like 4-3-3 became more popular after Mourinho's first Chelsea spell.”

Did you see Ruud Gullit on Match of the Day two talking about how a team should play against Contes system

He said the wingers should stay on the wing when the team has the ball so when the opposition move across the pitch then one side of the pitch has space for one of the wingers to exploit
celesti
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by ScousingScowler:
“Conte has found his magic back 3, Azpilicueta, David Luiz and Cahill.

4 league games, 4 clean sheets.”

Originally Posted by Hayden:
“Azpilicueta is a fantastic player.”

Agreed, especially considering he's a rightback who was arguably the best leftback in the league at times and now excelling further in too.
codeblue
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I must say, I'm finding Conte's Chelsea fascinating to watch tactically, mainly because managers playing 3-5-2 type formations in England tend to be derided by the pundits but it's something he's had great success with in the past. Maybe if Chelsea get somewhere with this set up others in the league will try their own version, just like 4-3-3 became more popular after Mourinho's first Chelsea spell.”

Chelsea were 4-4-2

Then we went to 4-3-3

Then we went to 4-2-3-1

Now we are 3-5-2
Phoebica
31-10-2016
I'm quite enjoying watching Chelsea too. They look like a completely different team from last season.

Someone pointed out that Chelsea are 11 points better off than after 10 league games last season, whereas Manchester United are 5 points worse off. I'm not saying that Mourinho is to blame. Actually screw it, I am saying that
codeblue
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Phoebica:
“I'm quite enjoying watching Chelsea too. They look like a completely different team from last season.

Someone pointed out that Chelsea are 11 points better off than after 10 league games last season, whereas Manchester United are 5 points worse off. I'm not saying that Mourinho is to blame. Actually screw it, I am saying that ”

well the chelsea team hasnt really changed much, and the united team has had a HUGE cash injection, and has signed the world most expensive player too!

I wonder what the difference would be like if Jose had the team that LVG left?
The_don1
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“well the chelsea team hasnt really changed much, and the united team has had a HUGE cash injection, and has signed the world most expensive player too!

I wonder what the difference would be like if Jose had the team that LVG left?”

Really?

Kante has come into the team, So has Moses and so has Alonso. That is 3 major changes (and a cost of over 50m for two of them that's ignoring the Moses fee) and plus Luiz has come into the team and those have been 4 of the key players in our recent upturn in form, To say the Chelsea team is not that different from last season is not really correct

Both teams really have made similar changes to their teams
whedon247
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Really?

Kante has come into the team, So has Moses and so has Alonso. That is 3 major changes (and a cost of over 50m for two of them that's ignoring the Moses fee) and plus Luiz has come into the team and those have been 4 of the key players in our recent upturn in form, To say the Chelsea team is not that different from last season is not really correct

Both teams really have made similar changes to their teams”

3 changes to a starting 11 isnt really that much for a new season.
codeblue
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Really?

Kante has come into the team, So has Moses and so has Alonso. That is 3 major changes (and a cost of over 50m for two of them that's ignoring the Moses fee) and plus Luiz has come into the team and those have been 4 of the key players in our recent upturn in form, To say the Chelsea team is not that different from last season is not really correct

Both teams really have made similar changes to their teams”

are you seriously comparing Pogba to the return of Victor Moses?

ibrahimovic to the signing of alonso, a sunderland reject?

bailly to the rehiring, to everyones amusement, of Luiz?
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