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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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The_don1
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“are you seriously comparing Pogba to the return of Victor Moses?

ibrahimovic to the signing of alonso, a sunderland reject?

bailly to the rehiring, to everyones amusement, of Luiz?”

No you are are doing that due to Utd bad Chelsea good mantra

You have said Chelsea has not really changed much and Utd have but we have changed quite a few key roles.
The_don1
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“3 changes to a starting 11 isnt really that much for a new season.”

Well its 4 with Luiz,Alonso,Kante and Moses.

Its not really that many I agree but with those players coming and and the change of system I think to say Chelsea has not changed much is not really correct
zieler
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Phoebica:
“I'm quite enjoying watching Chelsea too. They look like a completely different team from last season.

Someone pointed out that Chelsea are 11 points better off than after 10 league games last season, whereas Manchester United are 5 points worse off. I'm not saying that Mourinho is to blame. Actually screw it, I am saying that ”

United actually made a good start last season. We just completely fell apart in December. If we're 5 points behind the previous season when we're in January then I'll start to worry.
FMKK
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“are you seriously comparing Pogba to the return of Victor Moses?

ibrahimovic to the signing of alonso, a sunderland reject?

bailly to the rehiring, to everyones amusement, of Luiz?”

Ibrahimovic is an Arsenal reject then.

Chelsea have made some good signings and are changing their style of play but it was always going to be more important to reinvigorate the ones who were actually there but gave up the ghost last year. Hazard and Costa could get on for any team in the league so restoring them to 2014 form was surely the priority for Conte coming in.
DUNDEEBOY
31-10-2016
Ibrahimovic has been a complete waste of salary as I though he would be.

United would have been better spending his wages on someone younger.

Suspect he will be off to China in the summer
The_don1
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Ibrahimovic has been a complete waste of salary as I though he would be.

United would have been better spending his wages on someone younger.

Suspect he will be off to China in the summer”

Care to suggest a name?

Would this "younger" player bring all the marketing rewards signing a player like this bring into the club? Would this younger player sign a short term contract as well?
pete137
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Care to suggest a name?

Would this "younger" player bring all the marketing rewards signing a player like this bring into the club? Would this younger player sign a short term contract as well?”

So "marketing rewards" is the basis for signing players these days ?
The_don1
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“So "marketing rewards" is the basis for signing players these days ?”

Of course it plays a part when you are talking about a club like Utd.

They already have one of the best young strikers on their books, What they needed was a short term option and he was one of the most logical options available, It might work out or might not just like any transfer but it was a perfectly logical move for both parties
Jason C
31-10-2016
Perhaps it's me being out of touch but I really have not heard of some of these Swansea players at all.

Who the hell is Barrow, for goodness sake?
Jason C
31-10-2016
There goes Swansea's defensive outlook.

Blimey, 1-1 after just 8 minutes.
Dandem
31-10-2016
This is a very good game. Stoke have hit the post 3 times now.
TheSloth
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“Perhaps it's me being out of touch but I really have not heard of some of these Swansea players at all.

Who the hell is Barrow, for goodness sake?”

Ask a Liverpudlian and he'll say Barrow, in fairness, is in Cumbria...
Jason C
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by TheSloth:
“Ask a Liverpudlian and he'll say Barrow, in fairness, is in Cumbria... ”

Haha

Stoke back in front, own goal from another Swansea player I've not heard of - Mawson.
TheSloth
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“Haha

Stoke back in front, own goal from another Swansea player I've not heard of - Mawson.”

Barrow played 22 league games last season (a lot as sub) and all of 'em this. He did well against Arsenal recently but his end product is almost non-existant at the moment.
owen10
31-10-2016
Wifried Bony has just scored for Stoke

He needed that goal
mikeyddd
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Wifried Bony has just scored for Stoke

He needed that goal”

Unless the law has changed that was a penalty for swansea. Lino and ref got that wrong.
DUNDEEBOY
31-10-2016
What has happened to Swansea they look dire
TheSloth
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Wifried Bony has just scored for Stoke

He needed that goal”

Yes, that 70 minute goal drought was a concern...
Jason C
31-10-2016
Porous at the back, toothless up front.

Another season of struggle beckons for Swansea - and Bob Bradley doesn't seem to be the right man to lead them through it.
Dandem
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by mikeyddd:
“Unless the law has changed that was a penalty for swansea. Lino and ref got that wrong.”

I think the law states that the location is dictated by where the foul STARTS. So Pieters had held of Routledge just outside the box, and Routledge managed to muscle his way into the box before going down. So if I'm correct, then the free kick was the right call.
jclock66
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Of course it plays a part when you are talking about a club like Utd.

They already have one of the best young strikers on their books, What they needed was a short term option and he was one of the most logical options available, It might work out or might not just like any transfer but it was a perfectly logical move for both parties”

But if it doesn't work out and he's dumped on the bench like Rooney, he will disrupt the whole club because he's a narcissistic with an extreme ego problem.
mikeyddd
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I think the law states that the location is dictated by where the foul STARTS. So Pieters had held of Routledge just outside the box, and Routledge managed to muscle his way into the box before going down. So if I'm correct, then the free kick was the right call.”

For a holding offence it's where it ends, as I say unless it has changed recently.
mikeyddd
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“I think the law states that the location is dictated by where the foul STARTS. So Pieters had held of Routledge just outside the box, and Routledge managed to muscle his way into the box before going down. So if I'm correct, then the free kick was the right call.”

A cording to the after match analysis it was a penalty.
owen10
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“What has happened to Swansea they look dire”

Bob Bradley said they are lacking confidence

They also lacking quality and strikers by the look of them
SIOPHIE_FIERCE
31-10-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“What has happened to Swansea they look dire”

I watched their games at the start of the season and I thought they were unlucky. They were playing good football against the likes of City and Liverpool but just got unlucky by conceding some penalties. If they'd stuck with their manager I think they'd have turned it round eventually.
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