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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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Mark F
22-11-2016
http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/off-the-...oc_285809.html

Sure everyone will be tuning into the above.

They'll probably hear about it anyway!

These programmes never seem to put the club in a good light...
Nova21
22-11-2016
There was a great one years ago on Sheffield United... prob early 90s
Jamesp84
22-11-2016
I remember the Sunderland one.
swingaleg
22-11-2016
fantastic goal by Leicester !
Nova21
22-11-2016
Come on the foxes!
LuvJamTarts
22-11-2016
hell of a game between dortmund and legia right now
batdude_uk1
22-11-2016
Dortmund scoring eight goals, wow they are some team, it can't be tooong before someone comes looking to hire Tuchel.
Pee
22-11-2016
Dortmund have been amazing to watch this season. with Gotze, Pulisic, Kagawa, Dembele, Aubameyang etc they're pure eroticism going forward. but they do concede way too many soft goals.
batdude_uk1
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pee:
“Dortmund have been amazing to watch this season. with Gotze, Pulisic, Kagawa, Dembele, Aubameyang etc they're pure eroticism going forward. but they do concede way too many soft goals.”

Ahhh Kagawa, what could have been, sadly it seems that Miki could be treading a similar path, hopefully there is still time for him to change his trajectory.
TheMunch
23-11-2016
PSG's Serge Aurier won't be available to play Arsenal tomorrow, due to not being allowed into the UK, after being convicted of assaulting a police officer.

Quote:
“Paris St-Germain full-back Serge Aurier was stopped from entering the United Kingdom and will miss Wednesday's Champions League match against Arsenal.

The Ivorian, 23, was given a two-month suspended prison sentence in September for assaulting a police officer.

PSG say the UK authorities granted Aurier a visa in October but revoked it on 16 November, citing his conviction.

Uefa expressed "deep disappointment" in the ruling, while PSG said the timing showed "a lack of respect".

The French champions accused the Home Office of a "tardy response" and claimed the decision was not made until Tuesday afternoon.

As Aurier was born outside Europe, he was applying for a Tier 2 Sportsperson visa, which allows an individual to stay in a country for up to three years and typically takes three weeks to process.

But the Home Office said in a statement: "The immigration rules clearly state that non-EU nationals who have received a custodial sentence of less than 12 months within the last five years will be refused on criminality grounds."

There is no right to appeal against a visa refusal.


Aurier, an Ivory Coast international, is appealing against his initial conviction, leading PSG to believe he is entitled to be presumed innocent.

"Paris St-Germain strongly regrets the presumption of innocence has not influenced Britain's decision," said the club in a statement.

Uefa sent letters to the Home Office and Football Association supporting PSG, and said it was "regrettable" he could not play "for reasons which are not related to football and its regulations".

Aurier, who has played 40 times for PSG since making his loan deal from Toulouse permanent last year, is accused of elbowing a police officer outside a Paris nightclub in May.

In addition to his suspended sentence, he was fined €600 (£521).

PSG manager Unai Emery said the club "did everything in its power" to have Aurier available for their penultimate game in Group A.

His side go into Wednesday's meeting at Emirates Stadium second in the standings, level on 10 points with leaders Arsenal with both clubs assured of a place in the knockout stages.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/...linkname=sport
Phoebica
23-11-2016
Yeah it's all well and good scoring 8, but you can't be conceding 4. Did neither team have a goalkeeper?
codeblue
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“PSG's Serge Aurier won't be available to play Arsenal tomorrow, due to not being allowed into the UK, after being convicted of assaulting a police officer.
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This part is ridiculous:

"Paris St-Germain strongly regrets the presumption of innocence has not influenced Britain's decision," said the club in a statement."

err, he has been convicted!

PSG - what a bunch of morons.
carefree_blue
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“This part is ridiculous:

"Paris St-Germain strongly regrets the presumption of innocence has not influenced Britain's decision," said the club in a statement."

err, he has been convicted!

PSG - what a bunch of morons.”


You could say that about UEFA too. It sounds like they think they should be the sole arbiters of whether he can play or not, as if he should be exempt from other regulations.
TheMunch
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“You could say that about UEFA too. It sounds like they think they should be the sole arbiters of whether he can play or not.”

Yeah, YEFA's stance is the thing that got me. Like they have any say in the matter. He's been convicted of assaulting a police officer, and UK law says he can't come into the country at this time. UEFA has no say in the matter.

Imagine if a player was unavailable because he's serving a suspension for violent conduct on the field. They'd be laughed at if they tried to get an exception for this game. But because it wasn't during a game they think he should be able to go.
zieler
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“This part is ridiculous:

"Paris St-Germain strongly regrets the presumption of innocence has not influenced Britain's decision," said the club in a statement."

err, he has been convicted!

PSG - what a bunch of morons.”

No, they are not a bunch of morons. Far from it in fact. In France, if you appeal against a conviction then the presumption of innocence continues - you are only considered guilty once all appeals are finished. As he is appealing against the conviction, he is still presumed to be innocent under French law, hence the annoyance from PSG that he has been banned before his guilt has been proven. If the case was in the UK, he'd obviously be considered guilty but I actually see PSG's point here, it doesn't seem right that we assume guilt even though the legal system he is going through does not.
batdude_uk1
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by zieler:
“No, they are not a bunch of morons. Far from it in fact. In France, if you appeal against a conviction then the presumption of innocence continues - you are only considered guilty once all appeals are finished. As he is appealing against the conviction, he is still presumed to be innocent under French law, hence the annoyance from PSG that he has been banned before his guilt has been proven. If the case was in the UK, he'd obviously be considered guilty but I actually see PSG's point here, it doesn't seem right that we assume guilt even though the legal system he is going through does not.”

But he is not playing in France, he is playing in London, so he and PSG have to abide by our laws not theirs.
zieler
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“But he is not playing in France, he is playing in London, so he and PSG have to abide by our laws not theirs.”

Did I say otherwise? Where our law becomes relevant is over the visa, our law is that anyone who receives a custodial sentence in the last five years will be refused entry but the big point is that he has not been proven guilty of this crime and certainly hasn't served any sentence. PSG are 100% right when they say he is still presumed to be innocent and you can see why they are pissed off that he is refused a visa on criminality grounds when he hasn't been proven to be guilty of a crime.
Mark F
23-11-2016
Zlatan seems to have done enough to merit a new contract..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38080943
zieler
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Zlatan seems to have done enough to merit a new contract..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38080943”

Not a new contract, simply the second year in his current one is going to be activated. Saw someone suggesting that was probably in case he was another Falcao, now we know he doesn't fall over every other step and he's not pissed off half the squad we want the full two years.
TheMunch
24-11-2016
A journalist asked Brendan Rodgers if he can believe Messi is possible, and talks about the Loch Ness monster. English is clearly not his first language.

Funny question:

https://www.facebook.com/bbcthesocia...1618639948559/

"It's hard to believe you'd ask that question"

Possibly Brendan's best ever response to a question.
sixtynine
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“A journalist asked Brendan Rodgers if he can believe Messi is possible, and talks about the Loch Ness monster. English is clearly not his first language.

Funny question:

https://www.facebook.com/bbcthesocia...1618639948559/

"It's hard to believe you'd ask that question"

Possibly Brendan's best ever response to a question. ”

Ha ha, I felt sorry for the poor bloke posing the question.
Obviously lost in translation but very witty response from Brendan Rodgers.
TheMunch
24-11-2016
The Premier League changed their Facebook profile picture to the Premier League logo with the LGBT flag.

https://www.facebook.com/premierleag...type=3&theater


Great move, I thought.

And, unexpectedly, it got a lot of negative comments. People asking to "keep politics out of football", and "keep LGBT rubbish out of football" and comments of that nature. People who seem to think basic human rights is politics, or a matter of the page admin's opinion, that it's being forced down their throats.

Like this:

Quote:
“Keep this lgbt rubbish out of football”

Let's rephrase that, shall we?

Let's keep basic human rights out of football. Remember black players getting bananas thrown at them? We should've told them to suck it up and get on with it. John Barnes should've learnt to live with it instead of forcing his right to live and play football down our throats.

That's how stupid you* sound when you say to keep LGBT rubbish out of football. It's about basic human rights. It's not some movement, it's not an opinion, it's not a choice.

*you being the people with this view, of course, not anyone here (unless they agree with it).


This was my favourite comment:

Quote:
“Will there be support for straight people??? Disgusting pfff”


I wasn't a big fan of the Premier League's new logo, but this I like. If it upsets and offends people with backward views, or people who hide behind a book that they've probably never read, then that's their problem.
batdude_uk1
24-11-2016
There are some right backwards thinking people, personally I think it is great that they are supporting such a worthwhile cause.
DUNDEEBOY
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Zlatan seems to have done enough to merit a new contract..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38080943”

Much improvement performance from man united last night.

Wouldn't they be better saving his wages for a young quality signing up front
celesti
25-11-2016
I'd be intrigued to see what 'support for straight people' would involve. It's along the same lines as the angry nerds who sincerely call themselves 'meninists' and the people who whine about there being no MOWO awards.
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