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Old 07-03-2016, 15:10
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I understand your point, it's not hard to grasp. It's the way you portray it, with the footballers being 'cheats, the divers, the theatrical poseurs' and so on.
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Old 07-03-2016, 15:13
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Yes, we're comparing the theatrical exaggerated ridiculous collapse of a player doing his best to con the officials, with players of other sports who have the opposite incentive. That was what I was getting at. You seem to have missed that.

In reality players should have no need most of the time to go down, except that we've reached a norm now where the merest whiff of a touch results in exactly that - flailing arms, barrel rolls, comedy falling over as if shot from the stands. It's been shit for years having to put up with that in the world's greatest game, esp when comparing it with the norm when I grew up watching it when players didn't routinely cheat, dive and attempt to con the officials to gain an advantage and instead relied on their own abilities and guile.

Feel free to be cheerleader for the cheats, the divers, the theatrical poseurs who can't stay upright when the easier option is to collapse to the floor clutching the wrong leg or squinting at the ref through one eye whilst clutching the face after being touched on the shoulder. Bunch of cheating gits most of em; it's only the fact that football is the greatest game despite them that I continue to watch.
One has to ask why bother watching when you feel this way.
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Old 07-03-2016, 15:16
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Benteke made the most of any contact but he's not to blame. He's been conditioned by modern football to do it. Officials and authority should take more of the blame, I think, for allowing it to get to this point and not doing enough to stop it.
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Old 07-03-2016, 15:25
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One has to ask why bother watching when you feel this way.
Because away from these divers and cheats, it's the best sport on the planet.

I didn't watch Palace v Liverpool live, nor did I see all of Spurs Arsenal, or Leicester v Watford come to that, and not one kick of WBA V MU. There are better things to do than be glued to every game on the tv, but it would be nice to be able to watch the game without being treated to the spectacle of grown men / professional athletes chucking themselves to the floor when an opponent brushes past them. Pretend it doesn't happen if you like, but that's just condoning theatrical play acting & diving. You might agree with it, I don't.
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Old 07-03-2016, 15:28
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'Grown men'

You don't need to qualify a statement against diving with this kind of thing, it undermines your point if anything. We're a few steps away from prima donna territory.
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Old 07-03-2016, 15:32
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Because away from these divers and cheats, it's the best sport on the planet.

I didn't watch Palace v Liverpool live, nor did I see all of Spurs Arsenal, or Leicester v Watford come to that, and not one kick of WBA V MU. There are better things to do than be glued to every game on the tv, but it would be nice to be able to watch the game without being treated to the spectacle of grown men / professional athletes chucking themselves to the floor when an opponent brushes past them. Pretend it doesn't happen if you like, but that's just condoning theatrical play acting & diving. You might agree with it, I don't.
I don't deny it but it doesn't bother me.
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Old 07-03-2016, 19:06
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One has to ask why bother watching when you feel this way.
The way he's talking I doubt he has ever watched a game before yesterday lol
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Old 07-03-2016, 20:08
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Spot on Snrdev.
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Old 08-03-2016, 19:01
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Hull v Arsenal giving us the unusual occurrence of an English match kicking off at 7.00 to partially avoid a clash with tonight's Champions League games.
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Old 08-03-2016, 19:16
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Hull v Arsenal giving us the unusual occurrence of an English match kicking off at 7.00 to partially avoid a clash with tonight's Champions League games.
It's of more interest than the 2 CL games too, with Real Madrid as good as through anyway and the Gent/Wolfsburg match-up being more reminiscent of a Europa League tie.
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Old 08-03-2016, 19:28
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"You've only come to see the Arsenal"

The fact that the ground appears to be half empty would suggest that actually, no they haven't.
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Old 08-03-2016, 19:42
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Complete gift for Giroud.

It's of more interest than the 2 CL games too, with Real Madrid as good as through anyway and the Gent/Wolfsburg match-up being more reminiscent of a Europa League tie.
Indeed, which proves the stupidity of UEFA's "no clash" stance.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:13
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Good to see Liverpool and United putting out what seems to be their best available sides for their Europa league clash unlike Spurs who are deservedly losing to Borussia (ironic if Spurs end up fifth in the league).
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:14
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Spurs a goal down in Dortmund approaching the hour mark and are very lucky it's only one.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:18
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Good to see Liverpool and United putting out what seems to be their best available sides for their Europa league clash unlike Spurs who are deservedly losing to Borussia (ironic if Spurs end up fifth in the league).
Very surprised with their lineup. Surely the Villa game could of been won without Kane and Dier?
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:20
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Spurs 2-0 down now. Their team selection for this really is an odd one.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:29
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Game set and match tie over, losing this by 4 or 5 could really damage team confidence for the rest of the season
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:39
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Imagine travelling all that way on a weekday just to see your team not bother.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:43
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I suppose that it might come down to the two Manchester sides being left in European competition after this round of fixtures.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:48
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I suppose that it might come down to the two Manchester sides being left in European competition after this round of fixtures.
I think that will be it final of Europa will be Dortmund v Seville if they don't draw each other before
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:48
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Their team selection for this really is an odd one.
It's almost tantamount to conceding you're going to lose the match before it begins, frankly.

How did Pochettino explain it?
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:52
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I suppose that it might come down to the two Manchester sides being left in European competition after this round of fixtures.
You carry on supposing... With your impressive record of being proved haplessly wrong, you've actually raised my hopes.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:53
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It's almost tantamount to conceding you're going to lose the match before it begins, frankly.

How did Pochettino explain it?
Something along the lines of "I decided to throw the tie so that we can concentrate on winning the league."?
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:55
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I suppose that it might come down to the two Manchester sides being left in European competition after this round of fixtures.
I remember seeing earlier Man United were near enough 3/1 to win. You might want to get some money on that if you're so confident.

With your record I'm almost tempted to put a lot money on Liverpool to win.
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Old 10-03-2016, 19:55
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Something along the lines of "I decided to throw the tie so that we can concentrate on winning the league."?
Why did he not do that against Fiorentina in the previous round, then?
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