Yes, that is all well and true, but also if someone has played at the top level for as long as Gary (Phil as well), and have played with a keeper as good as Schmeichel snr, or someone on such a high level, and can be concise and express their point as well as possible, then their point of view should be listened to.


I don't quite know how good his English is, or what level of detail he could go into, when discussing these things, but if he can put across his point in well thought out way, like Gary, then why not listen to what he has to say?

For the record, I have not heard any interviews with him, so I don't know what he is capable of in this sort of situation.

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*sigh*

'Should' be listened to? Why?

People choose to either listen to pundits, or not. Who they've played with isn't really relevant.

Keane and Scholes were fantastic players, and played with other fantastic players. They're awful pundits. Same with Henry and Owen.

He should have started it with 'What Nev needs to learn about goalkeepers is'

Don't worry, we've all been there.

Been where??

Huh????

As pointed out Ronaldinho and Deco left, Busquets and Pedro were promoted from the B team he also changed the role of Messi.

Yaya Toure claims he accidentally consumed alcohol when he was caught drinking and driving.

Did someone spike his cake?

How do you accidentally consume enough alcohol to be over the limit?

Moreover, how do you consume enough to be over the limit when, as a Muslim, he says he doesn't drink alcohol?

Tomorrow, we are going through the round window.

But how many pundits are actually any good? One of the most annoying features of today's commentary is the inane analysis that accompanies the commentary of a game especially Hargreaves, McMannaman and Owen who just never stop. I do think Gary Neville is a good analysist but no coach in the world has ever achieved his goal of each player carrying out instructions to the full, mistakes will happen and it is up to the coach to drop that player if he doesn't learn. As for the Liverpool keepers, just look at how many mistakes Mignolet has made over the last few seasons, how many points it cost Liverpool, Klopp probably hasn't much choice in sticking with Karius the mistake is not finding the best keeper in the first place. Karius is young and will learn or at least lets hope so but a keeper need to be experienced from the get go, he is not just there to stop shots and deal with crosses he is there to make sure his back four have confidence in him and as a result attend to their defensive duties instead of worrying about what is behind them.

I don't disagree with any of that.

Yes, mistakes will happen, and pundits are paid to comment on those mistakes. Moaning about justified criticism seems pretty thin-skinned, to me.

We've all started on the wine gums and before you know it the box is empty, I'm with Yaya

Me thinks he is telling the court a few porkies.

Does a driving ban in this country hold up in other countries, as if he moves on in January or the summer, then there isn't much point in giving him a ban is there if it doesn't?

Muslims don't do 'Porkies'!

Klopp should have left it well alone, but he couldn't resist having a dig at the Neville brothers, rather conveniently leaving aside Carragher's criticism of the keeper.
Claiming the bothers are biast, I must have missed Gary being critical of De Gea when he was making mistakes, so that one doesn't stick, shame he didn't do his research before going off on that rant.

Oops, probably a bad or poor choice of word there in that sense, but then again they don't do alcohol either do they?

No. But some do get a buzz from 'Fruit Juice'.

He tried to leave it alone but the press kept pestering him and eventually he gave an answer. He repeatedly said he does not want to get involved but the media want their story so he gave them one, while taking the attention away from Karius as a result. Mourinho's been praised for years for doing that with his players.

It was barely a rant, too. There are plenty of people who can't resist having a dig at others, and speaking without doing any research, and accusing others of biased while being biased themselves, but Klopp isn't one of them.

Yeah, calling it 'a rant' is provocative, and untrue.

What parameters are we using to define what a rant is here?

How about those set out by the dictionary?

verb (used without object)

1. to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild or vehement way; rave:
'The demagogue ranted for hours.'

verb (used with object)

2. to utter or declaim in a ranting manner.

noun

3. ranting, extravagant, or violent declamation.

4. a ranting utterance.

None of that applies to what Klopp said, in my opinion.

what should we do instead, apply a world-wide ban? or maybe even jail him and dock City some points?

As long as its it an uubiased manner of course.