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#1026 |
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How fickle are football fans hey!! - some of the stuff I have seen from LFC fans today has been shocking - but no more than from other teams.
Last week AFC lost to Watford and the fan reaction was extreme - now with a good 2-0 away win they have calmed down. MUFC lost to us and that caused some fall out - to say the least. but now after winning the derby 4th is in sight again and things have calmed. MCFC fans won a cup a few weeks ago and are still in the CL but after today no doubt their fans are beyond despair and ripping into the team and the manager. Even TH lost in the cup to Palace and got hammered by Dortmund so their fans have had some bad days too. The truth is we all need to calm down a bit and enjoy the good when it happens and not go too OTT when the bad happens - as no team apart from Leicester has achieved the consistency we all crave. Easy to say - and hard to do as i was driving and listening to the commentary today on the radio and i almost crashed the car so mad was I at the capitulation - funny old game isn't it!! |
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How fickle are football fans hey!! - some of the stuff I have seen from LFC fans today has been shocking - but no more than from other teams.
Last week AFC lost to Watford and the fan reaction was extreme - now with a good 2-0 away win they have calmed down. MUFC lost to us and that caused some fall out - to say the least. but now after winning the derby 4th is in sight again and things have calmed. MCFC fans won a cup a few weeks ago and are still in the CL but after today no doubt their fans are beyond despair and ripping into the team and the manager. Even TH lost in the cup to Palace and got hammered by Dortmund so their fans have had some bad days too. The truth is we all need to calm down a bit and enjoy the good when it happens and not go too OTT when the bad happens - as no team apart from Leicester has achieved the consistency we all crave. Easy to say - and hard to do as i was driving and listening to the commentary today on the radio and i almost crashed the car so mad was I at the capitulation - funny old game isn't it!! Liverpool should not be throwing 2 goal leads away that's for sure but maybe you've read some fans going a bit OTT. Arsenal, despite an away win at Goodison were still chanting for Wenger to go Man Utd fans do not want LVG whatever results he gets from here on in you suspect. |
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Para's 2 & 3 seem to still want their manager out though despite their results.
Liverpool should not be throwing 2 goal leads away that's for sure but maybe you've read some fans going a bit OTT. Arsenal, despite an away win at Goodison were still chanting for Wenger to go Man Utd fans do not want LVG whatever results he gets from here on in you suspect. The dissatisfaction Arsenal fans have with Wenger has been building for years and wouldnt go away with one result and I think City are just marking time until the end of the season knowing a change is coming anyway. |
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#1029 |
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Para's 2 & 3 seem to still want their manager out though despite their results.
Liverpool should not be throwing 2 goal leads away that's for sure but maybe you've read some fans going a bit OTT. Arsenal, despite an away win at Goodison were still chanting for Wenger to go Man Utd fans do not want LVG whatever results he gets from here on in you suspect. Liverpool lost a game in which they were leading by two or more goals at half-time for the first time in Premier League history, having previously won 112 and drawn three of 115 games. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35796778 |
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General question. Am I the only person who thinks Klopp has aged really badly from the day he took over until today? The guy interviewed in the last couple of weeks looks incredibly stressed and about 10 years older than the guy who bounced into Anfield a few months back or was managing Dortmund.
I know being a football manager is an incredibly stressful job but even so! |
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Yeah it's end of the cycle. One problem they could have is shifting players out as they are on good money and it's more than likely they will have to take pay cuts elsewhere.
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How can you talk of city being at the end of the cycle when they spend hundreds of millions every season?
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Far too sensible an explanation.
Codeblue is, as ever, deliberately misinterpreting the point being made. |
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what a pathetic performance from bournemouth today.
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General question. Am I the only person who thinks Klopp has aged really badly from the day he took over until today? The guy interviewed in the last couple of weeks looks incredibly stressed and about 10 years older than the guy who bounced into Anfield a few months back or was managing Dortmund.
I know being a football manager is an incredibly stressful job but even so! I actually like and respect Klopp but I think he's finding things much tougher than he expected.Mind you that game alone today would have aged him a couple of months at least. I didn't realise Southampton missed a pen and still won ![]() Quote:
what a pathetic performance from bournemouth today.
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Nailed on pen missed by the ref, awful awful refereeing
Why didn't he book rashford for diving then? There was contact but it was with the shoulder. Which is allowed. |
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The ref bottles a clear second yellow for smalling.
Not fit for purpose, I'm calling him a cheat, it cannot just be incompetance. It was a foul. It was not a foul worthy of a yellow card. Not every foul deserves a booking. |
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Agree with that. More and more refs are becoming "bottlers" in the big matches these days and nothing ever gets done about them. If anything, they get praised by the FA and commentators for not sending people off!
Not every foul is a booking and not every challenge in the box is a penalty. |
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If Mourinho does end up at our gaff then stand by for some magnificent bitterness from her.
She's already started and he's not even been announced yet. |
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I agree. I dont think these fans are fickle at all. The United fans who want rid of Van Gaal will still want him out if he won every league game from now until the end of the season and lifted the FA Cup because the overall package this season has been terrible and its taken some time to arrive at the conclusion that he needs to go.
The dissatisfaction Arsenal fans have with Wenger has been building for years and wouldnt go away with one result and I think City are just marking time until the end of the season knowing a change is coming anyway. Yet United fans don;t seem to get this...... |
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Para's 2 & 3 seem to still want their manager out though despite their results.
Liverpool should not be throwing 2 goal leads away that's for sure but maybe you've read some fans going a bit OTT. Arsenal, despite an away win at Goodison were still chanting for Wenger to go Man Utd fans do not want LVG whatever results he gets from here on in you suspect. I am aware that LVG will never be acceptable to MUFC fans - Paul Scholes explains it well and I get that - and I think he is largely right. If I was a MUFC fan given the recent history of MUFC he would not be acceptable to me either. But even so I bet all their fans today are a lot more up than they were on Thursday - in fact I know they are having been the subject of a few good natured FB ribbings from my MUFC supporting friends!! - and that just shows the up and down nature of being a fan. Re AFC I have seen fans burning shirts on FB accompanying it by 4 letter word abusive rants about Wenger in the last week - which I think is very poor but there you are - and to me chanting for a manager to be sacked is always dodgy at the very least and when it is someone who has given the club the service Wenger has that for me makes it even worse. |
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Don't totally disagree with you tbh - and my use of the word fickle was perhaps not quite the right word and a mistake in retrospect - all I was trying to highlight was how in such a short time (in most cases a week) things can be so up and down for your average fan.
I am aware that LVG will never be acceptable to MUFC fans - Paul Scholes explains it well and I get that - and I think he is largely right. If I was a MUFC fan given the recent history of MUFC he would not be acceptable to me either. But even so I bet all their fans today are a lot more up than they were on Thursday - in fact I know they are having been the subject of a few good natured FB ribbings from my MUFC supporting friends!! - and that just shows the up and down nature of being a fan. Re AFC I have seen fans burning shirts on FB accompanying it by 4 letter word abusive rants about Wenger in the last week - which I think is very poor but there you are - and to me chanting for a manager to be sacked is always dodgy at the very least and when it is someone who has given the club the service Wenger has that for me makes it even worse. Except that you were right first time. Many football fans are ridiculously fickle. |
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what a pathetic performance from bournemouth today.
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What's your bitterness towards Bournemouth about, out of interest? It's not the first time you've shown it on here recently.
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I think it would be a g=big mistake for United to bring in Mourinho.
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General question. Am I the only person who thinks Klopp has aged really badly from the day he took over until today? The guy interviewed in the last couple of weeks looks incredibly stressed and about 10 years older than the guy who bounced into Anfield a few months back or was managing Dortmund.
I know being a football manager is an incredibly stressful job but even so! He is a good enough coach, and should instead be focusing on what his team are doing right and wrong, rather than getting caught up in the moment, or trying to think of news ways to be animated. It was funny to see when Martin O'Neil was bouncing on the touchline in the 90's, but it is just a bit tiresome seeing Klopp copy that style. It must take its toll, trying to be that hyped for every single match, why he doesn't calm down I don't know, it would be far better for his health at the very least you would have thought. |
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Hardly being bitter. They were terrible yesterday
If that was the only comment I'd picked up on I'd perhaps be more willing to believe you, but as your recent post below shows there's clearly more to it than that. Quote:
were the pundits really writing them off? i seem to remember a fair few bumming them.
shame they're doing well. i wanted them to go down |
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They were away to a strong Spurs side fighting for the title. Is the result that much of a surprise?
If that was the only comment I'd picked up on I'd perhaps be more willing to believe you, but as your recent post below shows there's clearly more to it than that. You can dislike whoever you want of course, but I was just curious what was behind it, that's all, seeing as they seem like a random club for a Leicester fan to have a particular dislike of. |
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You are not alone in thinking that, José has way to many negatives for my liking.
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This Mourinho guy must be so bad the way some have it, it makes you wonder why any club would take the risk of employing him. Perhaps it is because, as I have said before, from 2002-15 Mourinho has won 8 championships in four countries, the Champions League twice, numerous cups - only in season 2013–14 I believe has he failed to win something. In other words, with Mourinho, success is more or less guaranteed.
I don't have to like the guy to recognise he is a winner and as long as he has won the Champions League with more clubs than coaches he has poked in the eye, the world's leading clubs will be queuing to appoint him and their fans will be cheering his success. If necessary think of Mourinho as the Luis Suarez of football management and I doubt you will find many Barca fans who regret their club taking a risk on him! |
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Jurgen Klopp doesn't spend his time thinking of new ways to be animated or copy Martin O'Neill. What a bizarre suggestion.
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I actually like and respect Klopp but I think he's finding things much tougher than he expected.