Terrible match but a god awful performance from Everton in particular. Didn't hold possession at all, just shitty hoofballs all match.
Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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Not the best Merseyside Derby at all tonight
From my lot:
Usual long ball tactics which are plainly not working
Much too easy for the red neighbours defensively as we were toothless
The usual piss poor performance that always seems to happen when we play the neighbours these days, no fire or passion from my lot when it comes to this particular fixture
Big clear out needed next month, and a few new faces in who will wear the blue shirt with pride as some of the current lot just don't seem interested
Whatever happened to that team who played so well against Arsenal, as that sure wasn't them tonight
From my lot:
Usual long ball tactics which are plainly not working
Much too easy for the red neighbours defensively as we were toothless
The usual piss poor performance that always seems to happen when we play the neighbours these days, no fire or passion from my lot when it comes to this particular fixture
Big clear out needed next month, and a few new faces in who will wear the blue shirt with pride as some of the current lot just don't seem interested
Whatever happened to that team who played so well against Arsenal, as that sure wasn't them tonight
Hopefully this is the last game to have the had the Sky hype machine taint it with a daft name.
They've all been dire.
They've all been dire.
Is it time to put to bed the myth that is ross barkley?
Lots of potential as a youngster but has reached his peak already, just not good enough?
Lots of potential as a youngster but has reached his peak already, just not good enough?
Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow
Originally Posted by Barney06:
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
It's the fact that the ref has seconds (if that) to make a decision so a bad tackle from one angle could look rather tame and the reverse could easily be true.
They're introducing video reffing and hopefully it'll make a change for the better as the ref can ponder the decision perhaps with the usage of a tablet to give the correct decision...but how many times on things like match of the day with probably 20 cameras showing all sorts of angles does it still end up in a bit of a 50/50?
Originally Posted by Barney06:
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
add two by Rojo
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“add two by Rojo”
“add two by Rojo”
Why? Does it make any difference to the point being made?
Originally Posted by Barney06:
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
“Three decisions over this weekend where players could have received red cards , Barkley, Sissoko & Vardy . Probably the least dangerous tackle was was from Vardy yet he was the only one sent off . Just going by TV, the Barkley & Sissoko tackles looked more dangerous & reckless to me yet only a yellow”
This was the same ref who failed to send off Rojo last week, so perhaps he was worried about making the same mistake again. I can forgive him the Vardy red - besides I don't even know if it WAS the wrong decision, it was an orange card for me, a tough call.
My fave refereeing decision from that Stoke Leicester match though was Pawson giving Erik Pieters a yellow card instead of Bruno Martins Indi. They literally look nothing alike. I assume it's now been transferred.
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Why? Does it make any difference to the point being made?”
“Why? Does it make any difference to the point being made?”
yes, its adding weight to the argument.
The refs got another two red card incidents wrong.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Is it time to put to bed the myth that is ross barkley?
Lots of potential as a youngster but has reached his peak already, just not good enough?”
“Is it time to put to bed the myth that is ross barkley?
Lots of potential as a youngster but has reached his peak already, just not good enough?”
He's mentally shot right now and didn't take the loss of his England place very well. As you should know from last season, a lack of mental resolve can make good players look distinctly poor. He has plenty of ability but the difference at the elite level is between the ears.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“yes, its adding weight to the argument.
The refs got another two red card incidents wrong.”
“yes, its adding weight to the argument.
The refs got another two red card incidents wrong.”
Which would be fine, if the original post hadn't contained the words, 'this weekend'.
There are thousands of examples of poor decisions by refs, over time.
Originally Posted by TheSloth:
“He's mentally shot right now and didn't take the loss of his England place very well. As you should know from last season, a lack of mental resolve can make good players look distinctly poor. He has plenty of ability but the difference at the elite level is between the ears.”
“He's mentally shot right now and didn't take the loss of his England place very well. As you should know from last season, a lack of mental resolve can make good players look distinctly poor. He has plenty of ability but the difference at the elite level is between the ears.”
His situation reminds me a tad of Rodwell, who was hyped up when he was at Everton, but has not really progressed to anywhere near the level of hype that there was back then.
Apparently even after the video replay system was used to give a decision in the World Club Championship the team for whom the decision went against them still kept arguing.
That will have to stop if its to be introduced otherwise its a complete waste of time really as matches will still be held up etc.
Will decisions be accepted?
Take Wenger on Sunday for example - he thought the 2 Man City goals were offside but it was hardly clear cut even after a few replays.
That will have to stop if its to be introduced otherwise its a complete waste of time really as matches will still be held up etc.
Will decisions be accepted?
Take Wenger on Sunday for example - he thought the 2 Man City goals were offside but it was hardly clear cut even after a few replays.
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Which would be fine, if the original post hadn't contained the words, 'this weekend'.
There are thousands of examples of poor decisions by refs, over time.”
“Which would be fine, if the original post hadn't contained the words, 'this weekend'.
There are thousands of examples of poor decisions by refs, over time.”
he had another red card not given this weekend
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“His situation reminds me a tad of Rodwell, who was hyped up when he was at Everton, but has not really progressed to anywhere near the level of hype that there was back then.”
“His situation reminds me a tad of Rodwell, who was hyped up when he was at Everton, but has not really progressed to anywhere near the level of hype that there was back then.”
dare we say stones too?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
Of course he did.
Was that for being slapped in the face?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“dare we say stones too?”
“dare we say stones too?”
We could do, but I do think Rodwell is more likely a comparable basis.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“We could do, but I do think Rodwell is more likely a comparable basis.”
“We could do, but I do think Rodwell is more likely a comparable basis.”
I don't know, both Rodwell & Stones went to Man City. Barkley has the talent, the other two was just hype.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
ibra elbowed that palace player too
guess FA want some teams to take advantage of agueros ban?
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“ibra elbowed that palace player too
guess FA want some teams to take advantage of agueros ban?”
“ibra elbowed that palace player too
guess FA want some teams to take advantage of agueros ban?”
Ibra didn't elbow anyone, at best, all he did was charge someone with his body, and it was a coming together with his shoulder.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Ibra didn't elbow anyone, at best, all he did was charge someone with his body, and it was a coming together with his shoulder.”
“Ibra didn't elbow anyone, at best, all he did was charge someone with his body, and it was a coming together with his shoulder.”
Yes his shoulder their chin. The point is he was never going to get the ball and it could have been a red on another day.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“His situation reminds me a tad of Rodwell, who was hyped up when he was at Everton, but has not really progressed to anywhere near the level of hype that there was back then.”
“His situation reminds me a tad of Rodwell, who was hyped up when he was at Everton, but has not really progressed to anywhere near the level of hype that there was back then.”
Rodwell's problem was injuries killing his development, Barkley's never had any injury issues.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
“he had another red card not given this weekend”
Yeah, his head hitting that poor West Brom player's hand was just vicious.
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“ibra elbowed that palace player too
guess FA want some teams to take advantage of agueros ban?”
“ibra elbowed that palace player too
guess FA want some teams to take advantage of agueros ban?”
Very neutral of you. Not sure why you bother putting the question mark, a lack of any actual evidence has never stopped you before.
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