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I guess it depends on what flavour of United fan you are - I suspect some will want a Fergie style dynasty builder, utilising youth as part of that. Others will want immediate success whatever it takes - e.g. bring in ready made talent that fit a winning style and not necessarily one that fits with tradition. It's rare that someone can satisfy both these camps.
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#1077 |
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Jose is a cheque book manager, the kids will not get a chance
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Jose is a cheque book manager, the kids will not get a chance
None of the big clubs will be chucking in untried young players next season anyway so its hardly worth mentioning. |
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The only ones worthy are already established in the squad so its not a problem.
None of the big clubs will be chucking in untried young players next season anyway so its hardly worth mentioning. Great tactics, but an awful, awful judge of players. Sell de Bruyne, buy cuadrado Sell Lukaku, get in Falcao on loan Sell mata, buy pedro sell schurle buy no one |
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#1080 |
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You will soon see for yourself.
Great tactics, but an awful, awful judge of players. Sell de Bruyne, buy cuadrado Sell Lukaku, get in Falcao on loan Sell mata, buy pedro sell schurle buy no one I'm well aware of Jose Mourinho and his positive and negative points. You LOVED Jose Mourinho for every minute he was at Chelsea and defended him to the hilt, please don't waste your time trolling United fans by suddenly deciding he was crap all along. |
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I have never defended him regarding his atrocious transfer dealings!
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I have never defended him regarding his atrocious transfer dealings!
Seems odd that you would link getting rid of Lukaku in 2014 with Falco being signed on loan in 2015 rather than the purchase of Diego Costa in 2014? To pull apart but one of your incredibly one-eyed comparisons there. Any reason for that do you think? Maybe because Costa scored 20+ goals and doesn't suit the narrative? |
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Sell Eidur Gudjohnsen, sign Loic Remy. Awful stuff
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It must be all of the frankly daft and unnecessary things he does on the touchline, quite why he does so I have no idea.
He is a good enough coach, and should instead be focusing on what his team are doing right and wrong, rather than getting caught up in the moment, or trying to think of news ways to be animated. It was funny to see when Martin O'Neil was bouncing on the touchline in the 90's, but it is just a bit tiresome seeing Klopp copy that style. It must take its toll, trying to be that hyped for every single match, why he doesn't calm down I don't know, it would be far better for his health at the very least you would have thought. It's not tiresome to see Klopp copy that style because he's not copying it, he's just enjoying his football. If you want to see a manager sit still for 90 minutes just watch van Gaal. How does getting excited like that take its toll? |
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Saying someone shouldn't be getting caught up in the moment is such a robotic suggestion. Don't be a person, be a football bot. You can't think and emote at the same time, does not compute. Meep meep morp
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I cannot see that happening anymore, managers just won't get the time.
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It seems that about 99% of fans, pundits and today's sporting press agree with me
The vast, vast majority say that it was a cast iron penalty, and that smalling should have got a second yellow but Oliver bottled the two big decisions in the match. I agree, not every foul is a booking, but standing on an Achilles in front of the ref preventing a break away is a yellow card. How many have you actually asked and how many papers/internet websites have you looked at? |
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No matter who is appointed they wont get the chance to be option 1 unless they manage option 2 first.
This is the thing that so many people (not saying you are one of them) fail to grasp. There is no "dynasty" without short term success. It is the short term success that keeps you in the job medium term and then you still require success to remain longer. That is they way of modern football at a big club regardless of what name is on the managers door. That is why the only sensible option is to plan for the short term and then see what happens. Everton and Arsenal have been prepared to stick with managrs for the long-term. So did Man Utd under Sir Alex Ferguson. |
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Depends what club you manage.
Everton and Arsenal have been prepared to stick with managrs for the long-term. So did Man Utd under Sir Alex Ferguson. Alex Ferguson is totally irrelevant - he was appointed 30 years ago! |
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Depends what club you manage.
Everton and Arsenal have been prepared to stick with managrs for the long-term. So did Man Utd under Sir Alex Ferguson. |
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I don't see a manager staying at a top team nowadays for more then 3 years. There are just too many challenges out there for them nowadays (much like for players as well).
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You will soon see for yourself.
Great tactics, but an awful, awful judge of players. Sell de Bruyne, buy cuadrado Sell Lukaku, get in Falcao on loan Sell mata, buy pedro sell schurle buy no one |
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Someone with more time and inclination than me would do well to search for Codeblue's opinions on Mata after he left Chelsea.
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You will soon see for yourself.
Great tactics, but an awful, awful judge of players. Sell de Bruyne, buy cuadrado Sell Lukaku, get in Falcao on loan Sell mata, buy pedro sell schurle buy no one Sell Lukaku, buy Costa Sell de Bruyne & Mata, buy Matic & Fabregas All decent business considering the three that he brought in made a major contribution to us winning the league and cup last season. Then it was: Sell Schurrle, buy Cuadrado That didn't work out, but at the end of the day Schurrle himself wanted to leave, as he couldn't break into the team as a regular, as was the case with the others that left. I liked Schurrle as a squad player, but to be fair he wasn't the most consistent of players. |
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It's amazing how many times this happens, that you have the same thoughts as someone who has their thoughts published a maatter of hours after they have published them.
Basically every thread over after a handful of posts. |
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It seems that about 99% of fans, pundits and today's sporting press agree with me
The vast, vast majority say that it was a cast iron penalty, and that smalling should have got a second yellow but Oliver bottled the two big decisions in the match. I agree, not every foul is a booking, but standing on an Achilles in front of the ref preventing a break away is a yellow card. Quote:
99% of people agree with you....
How many have you actually asked and how many papers/internet websites have you looked at? I also think the Smalling foul was just a foul. I think it would have been harsh. As for the Chelsea penalty. I thought it was harsh anyway, but again was 50/50. I think some refs would have just dismissed that one. and it was outside the box. Linesman more likely to blame for that though. |
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What happened to the act of giving the attacker the advantage in offside decisions.
Latley I've noticed several being flagged when they were level. I don't think that Kane's forehead being slightly ahead should deem him to be offside. |
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Would that mean if a particular point of view has been posted then no one else is allowed to post a similar opinion?
Basically every thread over after a handful of posts. How many other opinions and posts on here match almost word for word the idea or points of view expressed by columnists or journalists who have expressed them either online, in print or via social media yet make no reference to them in the actual post and then claim its a coincidence? Ive neve seen that elsewhere. Ive often seen people say "i agreed with X who said......" or similar but not passing the opinion off as your own and then pretend its just luck! |
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Actually it went like this:
Sell Lukaku, buy Costa Sell de Bruyne & Mata, buy Matic & Fabregas All decent business considering the three that he brought in made a major contribution to us winning the league and cup last season. Then it was: Sell Schurrle, buy Cuadrado That didn't work out, but at the end of the day Schurrle himself wanted to leave, as he couldn't break into the team as a regular, as was the case with the others that left. I liked Schurrle as a squad player, but to be fair he wasn't the most consistent of players. |
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Get the feeling it's more to do with his next job then his transfer dealings
Mourinho wasn't getting blamed much for anything earlier this season. Now he is at fault for everything. Purely coincidentally Codeblue changed her mind around the time that it became evident that the talk of him going to Manchester United might have more than a ring of truth to it. If he doesn't go there then he'll be back to being wonderful again. |
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