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Old 02-04-2016, 16:03
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City showing why - when they're in the mood - they're far too good to finish outside the top 4. Now that sh1t is hitting the fan I expect them to get their act together and possibly even finish in the top 3
No, I would say that they are showing what they are, flat track bullies, they can beat the teams that they should beat, but in the matches against their rivals, they always seem to come up short, so this match is no surprise at all.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:07
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No, I would say that they are showing what they are, flat track bullies, they can beat the teams that they should beat, but in the matches against their rivals, they always seem to come up short, so this match is no surprise at all.
It will come as a surprise to Lawro

LAWRO'S PREDICTION

Bournemouth are safe and will have a real go at City, whose form has been horrendous on the road.

The way City are playing at the moment, it is hard to see them improving on that too much at the Vitality Stadium.

Prediction: 1-1


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Old 02-04-2016, 16:08
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Of course they are, they have the best team in the league

Yes, they've been off form but lets be honest now they actually have to start giving a sh1t they're more likely to be an entirely new animal
What do you mean that they have the best team in the league??

Do you mean the best starting eleven possible when everyone is fit? If so, that is wrong, as they don't even have the best keeper in Manchester, nevermind the rest of the league.

Their centre-backs, are not up to much, (Kompany being as injury prone as he is, it does seem his time as a top level centre-back that you can rely upon is coming to a close), and their midfield blows hot and cold far too much.

As for their strikers, well they have one outstanding one in Arguero, but apart from that, the cupboard is a bit spare.

So, I would disagree that they have the best team in the league.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:09
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No, I would say that they are showing what they are, flat track bullies, they can beat the teams that they should beat, but in the matches against their rivals, they always seem to come up short, so this match is no surprise at all.
This squad still won a title in 2014 though and all the marquee players from 2012 are still around.

For whatever reason they haven't looked motivated at all in the league this season. On form though gun to head I'd back them to beat anyone else in the league.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:09
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It will come as a surprise to Lawro

LAWRO'S PREDICTION

Bournemouth are safe and will have a real go at City, whose form has been horrendous on the road.

The way City are playing at the moment, it is hard to see them improving on that too much at the Vitality Stadium.

Prediction: 1-1


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35902723

I wouldn't put too much faith in what he says, if anyone I would automatically do or think the opposite to what he says!
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:11
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What do you mean that they have the best team in the league??

Do you mean the best starting eleven possible when everyone is fit? If so, that is wrong, as they don't even have the best keeper in Manchester, nevermind the rest of the league.

Their centre-backs, are not up to much, (Kompany being as injury prone as he is, it does seem his time as a top level centre-back that you can rely upon is coming to a close), and their midfield blows hot and cold far too much.

As for their strikers, well they have one outstanding one in Arguero, but apart from that, the cupboard is a bit spare.

So, I would disagree that they have the best team in the league.
Who has a better first 11 than them? Possibly Chelsea but I don't think anyone else.

Arsenal have too many soft players.

When they're fit and firing Silva, Aguero, Toure, De Bruyne and Kompany would make any PL side. Lets not kid ourselves, no team in England has a solid defence
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:12
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I wouldn't put too much faith in what he says, if anyone I would automatically do or think the opposite to what he says!
Sportinglife.com actually predicted a Bournemouth win in their SkyBet tipping article
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:13
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This squad still won a title in 2014 though and all the marquee players from 2012 are still around.

For whatever reason they haven't looked motivated at all in the league this season. On form though gun to head I'd back them to beat anyone else in the league.
Well I wouldn't back them to beat us, mainly because they have shown in the two matches against us, they have been inferior to us!

Having a spine of good players with experience can be a great thing, but that spine is looking well past their best, Kompany is more injured than fit these days, Silva is still good, but does not contribute many goals, Yaya looks like he is playing in testimonial mode these days, and Aguero is the only good one still left from the title winning spine of 2012.
Oh and it looks like they might be looking into replacing Hart, so that shows how much confidence that they have in him.

There is plenty of work to be done, especially at the back, as their centre-backs are not good enough at the top level if they wish to win the big trophies on a regular basis.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:14
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I wouldn't put too much faith in what he says, if anyone I would automatically do or think the opposite to what he says!
Puzzles me why the BBC have kept him on. It is many years since he captured the attention with his comments and, of course, his enthusiasm for the game to often seems difficult to detect.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:18
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Who has a better first 11 than them? Possibly Chelsea but I don't think anyone else.

Arsenal have too many soft players.

When they're fit and firing Silva, Aguero, Toure, De Bruyne and Kompany would make any PL side. Lets not kid ourselves, no team in England has a solid defence
That is the point though, "when they are fit", Kompany is hardly fit these days, and when he plays in back-to-back games, it is seen as a great achievement for him.

Yaya is well past it, if he is still in their team next season, then that will benefit their opponents far more than it will benefit City.

How you fit, Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne, and Aguero into the same starting eleven has yet to be established, as they have not all really been fit at the same time for us to find this out, so it will be interesting to see how Pep does, as someone there has to drop to bench, as you can't play all of them together, as you will be far to open on the counter.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:18
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Those who said that this title race is over and is a two horse race are being proven wrong. It is over not by a long way. The days results are proving me right. Tottenham and leicester will start to feel the rest of the pack breathing down their necks. So will this PL title go to a team that has actually won it
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:20
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Those who said that this title race is over and is a two horse race are being proven wrong. It is over not by a long way. The days results are proving me right. Tottenham and leicester will start to feel the rest of the pack breathing down their necks. So will this PL title go to a team that has actually won it
It is still firmly in the hands of Leicester, if they don't win it from here, then it will be a bigger fall from grace, then when it looked like Liverpool were going to win before "The Slip".
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:21
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Sportinglife.com actually predicted a Bournemouth win in their SkyBet tipping article
It is a fair shout as City's away form (premier league) has been awful since September.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:24
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That is the point though, "when they are fit", Kompany is hardly fit these days, and when he plays in back-to-back games, it is seen as a great achievement for him.

Yaya is well past it, if he is still in their team next season, then that will benefit their opponents far more than it will benefit City.

How you fit, Silva, Sterling, De Bruyne, and Aguero into the same starting eleven has yet to be established, as they have not all really been fit at the same time for us to find this out, so it will be interesting to see how Pep does, as someone there has to drop to bench, as you can't play all of them together, as you will be far to open on the counter.
I asked who has a better first 11 than them and you can't seem to answer. Just because they have weaknesses doesn't mean much, there is no truly great team in the PL at the moment, it's possibly at it's lowest ebb in terms of standard in the PL era

Lets not forget they topped a tough CL group and have won a trophy already this season. They have a higher ceiling than anyone else in the league for me
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:25
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It is a fair shout as City's away form (premier league) has been awful since September.
I agree, it's very easy to come out with hindsight and say City have beaten no-one today. It's a superb performance no matter how you try to paint it
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:26
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It is still firmly in the hands of Leicester, if they don't win it from here, then it will be a bigger fall from grace, then when it looked like Liverpool were going to win before "The Slip".
United in 2012 10 points up in April

far bigger collapse than one Liverpool loss
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:30
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Massive goal for Newcastle, Mitrovic.

What a boost it would be if they can get out of a match they've been second best in with a point.

Ignore that, Mbokani has made it 2-1

Thunderous finish but the Newcastle defence gave him all the time and space he needed to cut in from the left.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:33
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I asked who has a better first 11 than them and you can't seem to answer. Just because they have weaknesses doesn't mean much, there is no truly great team in the PL at the moment, it's possibly at it's lowest ebb in terms of standard in the PL era

Lets not forget they topped a tough CL group and have won a trophy already this season. They have a higher ceiling than anyone else in the league for me
In terms of a "better eleven", then Spurs have a very good eleven (if we are using the "if everyone was fit" criteria), and I would say that theirs is better than City's as their defence is way better than City's, and Kane so far this season is proving more than a match for Aguero, and their midfield is just as good as City's best possible midfield (again if we are dropping of Sterling, De Bruyne, Silva or Aguero, as they all cannot play together).
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:34
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United in 2012 10 points up in April

far bigger collapse than one Liverpool loss
We gifted them that title, with the draw at home to Everton and the defeat against Blackburn, two unforgivable results in that season.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:34
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Massive goal for Newcastle, Mitrovic.

What a boost it would be if they can get out of a match they've been second best in with a point.

Ignore that, Mbokani has made it 2-1

Hah, I was just about to switch matches when you updated your post
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:35
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Another big goal at the bottom of the table, Dwight Gayle has equalised for Palace at West Ham.

Something of an onus on Sunderland to find a goal against West Brom in the final few minutes...
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:36
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We gifted them that title, with the draw at home to Everton and the defeat against Blackburn, two unforgivable results in that season.
I wonder come this season's end if you will be thinking the same over United's defeats to Bournemouth and Norwich?

Another big goal at the bottom of the table, Dwight Gayle has equalised for Palace at West Ham.

Something of an onus on Sunderland to find a goal against West Brom in the final few minutes...
Not just the bottom of the table, the Hammers are in with a serious shout for a top four place, a draw for them would put a considerable dent in such ambitions.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:44
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Newcastle penalty for handball!

And Mitrovic scores it!

Only just though, John Ruddy went the right way but it was too accurately placed into the corner.

Norwich will only have themselves to blame if they don't get the win as they've missed a whole host of chances.
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:45
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I asked who has a better first 11 than them and you can't seem to answer. Just because they have weaknesses doesn't mean much, there is no truly great team in the PL at the moment, it's possibly at it's lowest ebb in terms of standard in the PL era

Lets not forget they topped a tough CL group and have won a trophy already this season. They have a higher ceiling than anyone else in the league for me
They will get an absolute hiding from psg though
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Old 02-04-2016, 16:51
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3-2 Norwich!

Would you believe it!

Twice Newcastle have conceded bare minutes after drawing level - and you always had the sense their abject defending made them perfectly capable of doing so.
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