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In terms of a "better eleven", then Spurs have a very good eleven (if we are using the "if everyone was fit" criteria), and I would say that theirs is better than City's as their defence is way better than City's, and Kane so far this season is proving more than a match for Aguero, and their midfield is just as good as City's best possible midfield (again if we are dropping of Sterling, De Bruyne, Silva or Aguero, as they all cannot play together).
I mean Spurs' best player might not even make the City team if you're only going one up front. City would only really take Aldeirweld (sp?) tbh. Maybe Alli at a push but young English players seem to find the step up too much when they join City |
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They will get an absolute hiding from psg though
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Well that is the three teams down sorted out now you would have thought.
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Dear oh dear, Newcastle.
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They will get an absolute hiding from psg though
I'd imagine PSG will go through but remember City topped a group with Juventus. If I had to send any English team to play PSG it'd be City at the moment given Chelsea's poor season |
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Any concinedence that De Bruyne makes a return and City score 4? I think not. City have been average this year but De Bruyne actually gives them some penetration and directness. Him getting injured when he did killed them. Kinda ridiculous when the money spent shouldn't see them rely on any one player. Quote:
I'd imagine PSG will go through but remember City topped a group with Juventus. If I had to send any English team to play PSG it'd be City at the moment given Chelsea's poor season
True but also in the two key games v Juve they lost both.
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That's it, Norwich have won!
Extraordinary climax at Carrow Road. I think the win was deserved even though Newcastle had more of the match in the second half - but to come back twice against your relegation rivals and then concede just a minute or two afterwards is nothing short of suicidal. I can't see how Newcastle are going to stay up, personally, but you could make a good claim for both sides going down on the basis of that match as neither defended at anywhere near an acceptable level. Bad day for Sunderland on today's results. |
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Spurs don't have a better first 11 than City though all things being equal. They've taken super advantage of an inconsistent league and are riding on huge momentum and huge credit to them and they have a top class striker,but if City had a consistent fully fit squad and put all their eggs in the league basket they'd finish above Spurs 9 times if this season was played 10 times imo
I mean Spurs' best player might not even make the City team if you're only going one up front. City would only really take Aldeirweld (sp?) tbh. Maybe Alli at a push but young English players seem to find the step up too much when they join City |
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Well that is the three teams down sorted out now you would have thought.
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Spurs don't have a better first 11 than City though all things being equal. They've taken super advantage of an inconsistent league and are riding on huge momentum and huge credit to them and they have a top class striker,but if City had a consistent fully fit squad and put all their eggs in the league basket they'd finish above Spurs 9 times if this season was played 10 times imo
I mean Spurs' best player might not even make the City team if you're only going one up front. City would only really take Aldeirweld (sp?) tbh. Maybe Alli at a push but young English players seem to find the step up too much when they join City Midfield is close, but both sides are more than equal here, and so the forwards remain just as close, so the deciding factor is the defence of both sides, and for me Spurs win that hands down, so the overall "best eleven if everyone was fit" goes to Spurs for me out of them and City. |
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I dunno if they'll get a hiding though, they could nick a few goals, that PSG defence looked very shaky at times when Chelsea attacked them. They get no test all year domestically
I'd imagine PSG will go through but remember City topped a group with Juventus. If I had to send any English team to play PSG it'd be City at the moment given Chelsea's poor season |
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Well that is the three teams down sorted out now you would have thought.
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Sunderland and Newcastle game in hand is with Arsenal and city respectively not looking good for them although Norwich deserve a lot of credit .
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Any concinedence that De Bruyne makes me return and City score 4? I think not.
City have been average this year but De Bruyne actually gives them some penetration and directness. Him getting injured when he did killed them. Kinda ridiculous when the money spent shouldn't see them rely on any one player. |
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I dunno if they'll get a hiding though, they could nick a few goals, that PSG defence looked very shaky at times when Chelsea attacked them. They get no test all year domestically
I'd imagine PSG will go through but remember City topped a group with Juventus. If I had to send any English team to play PSG it'd be City at the moment given Chelsea's poor season If you are talking about teams looking shaky at the back, then City have looked like that all throughout this season. Quote:
Any concinedence that De Bruyne makes me return and City score 4? I think not.
City have been average this year but De Bruyne actually gives them some penetration and directness. Him getting injured when he did killed them. Kinda ridiculous when the money spent shouldn't see them rely on any one player. True but also in the two key games v Juve they lost both. |
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Any concinedence that De Bruyne makes a return and City score 4? I think not.
City have been average this year but De Bruyne actually gives them some penetration and directness. Him getting injured when he did killed them. Kinda ridiculous when the money spent shouldn't see them rely on any one player. True but also in the two key games v Juve they lost both. True, they're def a bit short of Europe's elite but as I said every English team is sadly, they're the best of what is currently a very mediocre bunch |
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LOL would you steady on!
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Spurs are more tactically flexible than City, which works well in this, season of seasons.
But I went for City to win the title at the start of the season, purely because their squad was more complete than others. I truly believe that had Aguero, De Bryune, Silva and Kompany had a run of games together, they would've walked this league. City and Arsenal winning just puts added pressure on Spurs to finish second. If both clubs didn't drop silly points in February and March this could've been a four-way fight. |
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I thought before his injury he was showing the sort of form for City that made him the player of year in Germany. Such players are not easily replaced or covered for in a squad.
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Okay, enough of that, now let's see if Liverpool can do Leicester a favour and also put the wind up teams chasing a top four spot, by beating Spurs.
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Why, who do you see as being able to get out of the bottom three out of the teams that are currently in it?
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Spurs are more tactically flexible than City, which works well in this, season of seasons.
But I went for City to win the title at the start of the season, purely because their squad was more complete than others. I truly believe that had Aguero, De Bryune, Silva and Kompany had a run of games together, they would've walked this league. City and Arsenal winning just puts added pressure on Spurs to finish second. If both clubs didn't drop silly points in February and March this could've been a four-way fight. With finally what looks like an injury free side coming together I'd be very surprised if they didn't get top 4 now |
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Yep batdude seems to completely ignore City have been unlucky with injuries this season. It plays a massive role. In 2012 did anyone get injured hardly?
If we had had a settled team who knows we could have been in with a shout of contending with the very best at the top of the league! City have actually been lucky when compared with ourselves, they have not had over ten first team players out at once like we have, so I wouldn't say they have had a bad season when looking at their injury situation. Quote:
Well I dunno Sunderland maybe, given they could be a point off if they win their game in hand
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Okay, enough of that, now let's see if Liverpool can do Leicester a favour and also put the wind up teams chasing a top four spot, by beating Spurs.
0-0 then
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You see that's it, if you had to restart the season I'd imagine most would back City, I certainly would. They'll be bookies favourites next season for a reason when this year ends.
With finally what looks like an injury free side coming together I'd be very surprised if they didn't get top 4 now |
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