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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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FrankieFixer
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by CGG_12:
“Lvg's stint at utd must surely go down as one of the biggest managerial disasters”

For what he has spent they are dog shit.
Sattrega
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“That result all but sets the top four teams in stone now, it is hard to see either ourselves or West Ham overhauling City for that last Champions League place.”

Forget 4th, holding on to 5th is going to be a battle for you - more so if Liverpool beat Everton in their game in hand.
Mark F
10-04-2016
We will relegate one of Norwich or Sunderland..play them in our final 2 games.

Probably lose to both!
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Yeah, Tottenham have a great spine, good work ethic and plenty of players with upward potential. I can see them winning the league next season because they can hit the ground running while the other big sides will be rebuilding and need time for players/managers to settle in.”

Next season will be one of the hardest to predict in a very long time, but if Spurs can keep this squad if very talented young players, and add to it here and there, then they will be title challengers for sure once again.

Congratulations to Spurs on the win today, they fully deserved it, and it shows what can be achieved with a proactive manager in charge.
DUNDEEBOY
10-04-2016
Souness saying teams at man uniteds level Bayern Munich and Real Madrid , but United are light years behind these teams certainly regards what happens on the field
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“Forget 4th, holding on to 5th is going to be a battle for you - more so if Liverpool beat Everton in their game in hand.”

Oh yeah very much so, the upcoming FA Cup replay also just looks even harder than it possibly was before today's game.

We could conceivably finish not too far away from where we finished under Moyes, which would be a huge kick in the teeth.
mickthehat
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Souness saying teams at man uniteds level Bayern Munich and Real Madrid , but United are light years behind these teams certainly regards what happens on the field”

I think he is probably aware of that and it's pretty obvious he means them as clubs, not their current teams. I'm sure you're really aware of that.
satellite
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“And I worry big clubs will prey/distort Spurs and Leicester like vultures.”

Agree, it'll be harder for Leicester in particular to hang onto the likes of Vardy etc, when the wealthy clubs come calling, waving their mega bucks wages under their noses.

Levy is much more savvy and won't let his players or manager go without a fight.
feckit
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“That result all but sets the top four teams in stone now, it is hard to see either ourselves or West Ham overhauling City for that last Champions League place.”

Yeah, I think so too.

I have enjoyed watching West Ham. It will be interesting to see if moving to a new stadium hinders them next season and if they can hold onto Slaven Bilic.
Eddie hunter
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Souness saying teams at man uniteds level Bayern Munich and Real Madrid , but United are light years behind these teams certainly regards what happens on the field”

Man Utd are a massive club horrendously under performing . Im sure you know what Souness meant.
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
We are a club on a similar level to Real, Bayern, and Barcelona, it is just that in the past few years we have been managed really poorly, and have suffered badly because of it.
leicslad46
10-04-2016
One more win and then all this technical stuff about whether or not leicester are in the CL will be ended. After their win at the SOL they were in the europa league. Tottenham winning assured leicester of top four spot. One more win and they will be in the champions league proper.

It has been one ride that leicester city wont forget in a hurry. From championship bound to champions league in 12 months
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by feckit:
“Yeah, I think so too.

I have enjoyed watching West Ham. It will be interesting to see if moving to a new stadium hinders them next season and if they can hold onto Slaven Bilic.”

I think it could be the start of them moving up a level, as it is a cracking stadium.
It gives them that base in which to try and attract better players, as I do think players will want to play there.
Deep Purple
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by satellite:
“Agree, it'll be harder for Leicester in particular to hang onto the likes of Vardy etc, when the wealthy clubs come calling, waving their mega bucks wages under their noses.

Levy is much more savvy and won't let his players or manager go without a fight.”

Levy has let promising situations before go down the pan, but I doubt he will again.

No one expected Spurs to be where they are now at the beginning of the season, and if they'd started as they are now, they'd be top.

They have a great young manager, a brilliant young team, will be in the CL, and a massive new stadium is being built. It would be a crime to let this slip away.
DUNDEEBOY
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Man Utd are a massive club horrendously under performing . Im sure you know what Souness meant.”

Yes I know in principal what he meant but despite uniteds size it's probably unrealistic to compare them to these clubs in any form at the moment as the road to getting back to that level is a long if not impossible one.
Belligerence
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by satellite:
“Agree, it'll be harder for Leicester in particular to hang onto the likes of Vardy etc, when the wealthy clubs come calling, waving their mega bucks wages under their noses.

Levy is much more savvy and won't let his players or manager go without a fight.”

Think Vardy will stay, but Mahrez/Kanté may turn their heads given their repsective ages.

If Real came for Poch, would he stay? Levy would fight tooth and nail to keep him. Spurs have a new stadium project, and I don't think it'll harm them as much as it did Arsenal.

The increased TV deal means it'll be easier for clubs to hold on to their best.
Eddie hunter
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Yes I know in principal what he meant but despite uniteds size it's probably unrealistic to compare them to these clubs in any form at the moment as the road to getting back to that level is a long if not impossible one.”

Its a decent manager and another £200m on players. The current squad is being mismanaged on a level that Moyes would have been proud of.

When you replace your full backs every bloody game regardless of whats going on and even today you playing your £30m striker on the wing so that Ashley Young can play up front on his own you know the shark has been well and truly jumped.

You could give Van Gaal the money to buy Messi, Suarez and Neymar this summer and odds on he be trying to gel them as a back three defensive unit in preseason.
SpiderMan 83
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Yeah, Tottenham have a great spine, good work ethic and plenty of players with upward potential. I can see them winning the league next season because they can hit the ground running while the other big sides will be rebuilding and need time for players/managers to settle in.”

IT Will be City's title to lose next season and with Chelsea only playing in the league they have a easy chance to win it. Spurs a good but being in the Cl and Epl are not a easy thing if you are new to it.
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
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The increased TV deal means it'll be easier for clubs to hold on to their best.”

Ahh a person with whom I can I agree with!
dearmrman
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh yeah very much so, the upcoming FA Cup replay also just looks even harder than it possibly was before today's game.

We could conceivably finish not too far away from where we finished under Moyes, which would be a huge kick in the teeth.”

At this moment in time you are worse than under Moyes...with the same number of games Moyes had one more point and you also had made the Champions League Qtr Final, albeit losing.
RevengeofthMojo
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Ahh a person with whom I can I agree with!”

Not as easy as that, or we would have been able to keep Ronaldo.

If a player wants to go, they will go 90% of the time.

A club could keep a player, sure, if they are fully prepped for a massive dip in form, dressing room disharmony and diminished resale value.

It's just not as simple an equation as "we have more money therefore we will not sell".
batdude_uk1
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“At this moment in time you are worse than under Moyes...with the same number of games Moyes had one more point and you also had made the Champions League Qtr Final, albeit losing.”

We really are scraping the bottom of a very ugly barrel, if we are comparing this season to the Moyes one (or nearly one).

In future years, this period post Sir Alex will not be looked back upon with any great fondness whatsoever.

There needs to be a change in mentality from the top down, we have been accepting of too many below par performances, and just seeing qualifying for the Champions League as acceptable, it is not.
We have underperformed for a good few seasons now, and that has to change.

We seem far more bothered about making deals with companies in far away countries, rather than about results on the pitch, and that is never a recipe for success.
dearmrman
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“IT Will be City's title to lose next season and with Chelsea only playing in the league they have a easy chance to win it. Spurs a good but being in the Cl and Epl are not a easy thing if you are new to it.”

Judging by this season, Pep has got a big job on his hands....City will need to buy at least 4 very good players if not more.

The summer transfer window should be quiet an event this year, as many of the top clubs will need to strengthen considerably.
dearmrman
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“We really are scraping the bottom of a very ugly barrel, if we are comparing this season to the Moyes one (or nearly one).

In future years, this period post Sir Alex will not be looked back upon with any great fondness whatsoever.

There needs to be a change in mentality from the top down, we have been accepting of too many below par performances, and just seeing qualifying for the Champions League as acceptable, it is not.
We have underperformed for a good few seasons now, and that has to change.

We seem far more bothered about making deals with companies in far away countries, rather than about results on the pitch, and that is never a recipe for success.”

Just be glad it isn't like Moyes season, as 71 pts would have only got you 5th.
NorthernNinny
10-04-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“Just be glad it isn't like Moyes season, as 71 pts would have only got you 5th.”

Well Moyes was never the right appointment regardless of how many points he managed.
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