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Old 10-03-2016, 23:09
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Have you ever been to a game? They hate each other, what did you think they would do, blow kisses at each other?
There's a difference between rivalries and mocking football tragedies...
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Old 10-03-2016, 23:20
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Old Firm fan approving of sick chanting?

Well I for one am stunned...
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Old 10-03-2016, 23:22
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There's a difference between rivalries and mocking football tragedies...
Exactly. Passion in football is great, banter between fans is great but there is no need for hatred and that sort of vitriol. I think Frankie is playing keyboard hardman.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:21
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If that's what you genuinely think then I suggest you get a life.
Armchair fans like you contribute nothing to the atmosphere. Go watch cricket or rugby if you want to sit next to each other and have a spiffing good time.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:23
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Exactly. Passion in football is great, banter between fans is great but there is no need for hatred and that sort of vitriol. I think Frankie is playing keyboard hardman.
People getting offended on the internet who don't go to the game don't mean anything. It's Liverpool vs Man Utd in their first game in Europe, what were people expecting? Them all sitting together like the 'friendly derby'? They hate each other.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:25
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Sorry but there's no place for hatred in any sport imho .
Absolute nonsense. Go to the biggest (or even smallest) derbies or rivalries in the world and they hate each other. They'd just laugh at you and your peace and love message.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:27
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Yeah you're not a proper fan unless you go the game, mock football tragedies and treat each other with utter contempt. The Old Firm are an inspiration to us all.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:29
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There's a difference between rivalries and mocking football tragedies...
Once you say it is off limits that's when they'll use it more to goad you.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:34
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Yeah you're not a proper fan unless you go the game, mock football tragedies and treat each other with utter contempt. The Old Firm are an inspiration to us all.
The people going on away days to Liverpool are mostly your hardcore, not the docile day trippers waiting to be entertained while eating a prawn sandwich. They are creating more of an atmosphere than people in their living room tutting.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:41
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The people going on away days to Liverpool are mostly your hardcore, not the docile day trippers waiting to be entertained while eating a prawn sandwich. They are creating more of an atmosphere than people in their living room tutting.
That doesn't make them more of a fan than someone who doesn't go. I live near Anfield but it's hard to get tickets, availability, cost and the difficulty of getting a ticket if you haven't been to a certain number of games makes it difficult.

Sloth's opinion isn't less valid if he doesn't go the game, ignoring the fact that you're just assuming he doesn't. Match-goers don't appreciate it either. There's a difference between enjoying a rivalry and just being scum. I don't need to be a season ticket holder to tell you that.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:56
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That doesn't make them more of a fan than someone who doesn't go. I live near Anfield but it's hard to get tickets, availability, cost and the difficulty of getting a ticket if you haven't been to a certain number of games makes it difficult.

Sloth's opinion isn't less valid if he doesn't go the game, ignoring the fact that you're just assuming he doesn't. Match-goers don't appreciate it either. There's a difference between enjoying a rivalry and just being scum. I don't need to be a season ticket holder to tell you that.
You can pretend your living room is just the same as being there if you like, but it isn't. If you gave these armchair fans a free ticket I suspect they still wouldn't go, or would go and sit on their hands waiting to be entertained. People that pony up the dough and put aside the time to go there and create atmosphere and noise and colour and back their team have my respect. Those that bump and moan about it in their living room don't.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:09
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Sounded like Firmino had a decent game, which is a bit of a surprise considering he was written off as a giant flop here by August. That made me feel blue.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:10
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You can pretend your living room is just the same as being there if you like, but it isn't. If you gave these armchair fans a free ticket I suspect they still wouldn't go, or would go and sit on their hands waiting to be entertained. People that pony up the dough and put aside the time to go there and create atmosphere and noise and colour and back their team have my respect. Those that bump and moan about it in their living room don't.
I'm not pretending anything. People who go the game are also against such behaviour. I'm not classing myself as an armchair fan either since I do go when I can and would go more often if I could.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:26
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Sounded like Firmino had a decent game, which is a bit of a surprise considering he was written off as a giant flop here by August. That made me feel blue.
haha remember that. His a classy player who will only get better.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:37
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Klopp gives the impression he is good at encouraging creative players, the complete opposite of Van Gaal currently who seems to suck the life out of them.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:39
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Old Firm fan approving of sick chanting?

Well I for one am stunned...
You go in the away end at Anfield and get all your fans to sit down and be quiet. Let us all know what hospital ward you wake up on.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:54
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While Liverpool have been woefully inconsistent they have a real chance to finish the season strongly. Bar Tottenham at home (and that's a winnable one imo) and the Everton game in hand, they have no "big" team left to play at all. Stoke and Southampton are the height of it, and if they can play like last night they shouldn't have problems in either of those. It's mostly bottom half teams

Huge chance to finish 5th (I'd be amazed if the top 4 doesn't finish like it is), which psychologically would do them good heading into next year. Heck if City or Arsenal do somehow fall away Pool should be the best placed team to take advantage given the run in

The Summer will be huge for them though. Looking forward to seeing Klopp being given a chance to build a team. they have a lot of mediocre players now, but a few big signings and why shouldn't they challenge for the league? Hard to see Spurs or leicester having the same hunger levels, United are a mess, Arsenal will never do it under Wenger, while it could well be all eggs in the Europe basket for City again. Chelsea could well be in another rebuilding phase when they ship out some of the prima donnas
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:25
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You go in the away end at Anfield and get all your fans to sit down and be quiet. Let us all know what hospital ward you wake up on.
Big difference between asking people to be quiet and asking them not to sing vile putrid songs.

The idea that football fans cannot make an atmosphere without singing hateful songs absurd.
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:29
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Big difference between asking people to be quiet and asking them not to sing vile putrid songs.

The idea that football fans cannot make an atmosphere without singing hateful songs absurd.
Do you even go to games? If you do then ask them to be quiet, see where it gets you. Armchair fans turning up the TV volume to be the most offended of them all is tiring.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:01
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Do you even go to games? If you do then ask them to be quiet, see where it gets you. Armchair fans turning up the TV volume to be the most offended of them all is tiring.
Way to go in missing the point.

Who is telling anyone to be quiet? People just don't want to hear bile.

Sounds like it you are quite happy with anything goes. Bigotry, racism, mocking the dead etc etc. Who cares what people say and what offence it causes its just what football fans do? Maybe in your little world.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:11
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Way to go in missing the point.

Who is telling anyone to be quiet? People just don't want to hear bile.

Sounds like it you are quite happy with anything goes. Bigotry, racism, mocking the dead etc etc. Who cares what people say and what offence it causes its just what football fans do? Maybe in your little world.
Do you even go to games? Grabbing the TV remote to turn the volume up to see what offence you can moan about on the internet means nothing. If you ever went to a game and asked them to be quiet they'd punch you in the mouth.

As soon as armchair fans say 'don't do this it offends me' the opposition will do it.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:15
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I've had a season ticket for several years and people are encouraged to speak up against certain kinds of filth. People chanting in support of Marlon King's conviction for instance were shouted down without anyone being punched, I'd be quite surprised if the corporate Premier League still has much of a snarling animalistic edge to it in that regard.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:16
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Do you even go to games? Grabbing the TV remote to turn the volume up to see what offence you can moan about on the internet means nothing. If you ever went to a game and asked them to be quiet they'd punch you in the mouth.

As soon as armchair fans say 'don't do this it offends me' the opposition will do it.
I've been to plenty of games, both in the U.K and on the continent. I've never once been punched in the mouth. Never been to a Scottish game though, maybe you do different things up there?
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:23
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I've been to plenty of games, both in the U.K and on the continent. I've never once been punched in the mouth. Never been to a Scottish game though, maybe you do different things up there?
Yeah of course everyone on the internet goes into stadiums telling hundreds of angry men to sit down and shut up with no consequences. Then they speed back to their mansion in their Ferrari to shag their model girlfriend.

It's the internet where everything is true.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:29
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Yeah of course everyone on the internet goes into stadiums telling hundreds of angry men to sit down and shut up with no consequences. Then they speed back to their mansion in their Ferrari to shag their model girlfriend.

It's the internet where everything is true.
Says the poster actually making stuff up on the Internet..
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