True but City have been failing for years United have dropped to Europa Leauge. A few years ago this was a shock when big clubs like Liverpool were these today it's not. Remember the C5 Thursday night jokes?

Listen Celtic made the last 16 beat Barca. Scotland lost a second spot years ago but you don't see is moaning it's upto clubs to do well and everybody should back our clubs to do well so we don't lose that spot.

Sadly spur graps, jealousy by many will hope smaller clubs fail. West Ham are moving to a bigger stadium so people can't keep dishing them anyway.

If you support football you don't care who's top four if you are more worried about "co efficient" your a modern plastic fan who sits on Fifa worries about rankings and knows little about football.

I'm making a point all the bitter fans who don't want Leicester to win are coming out. This thread has been interesting until the day or two when reality has kicked that Leiciester can win it.

Well sorry plastic fans, this is football welcome to it. I feel sorry that you have a Hamilton club top of your division in England oh wait 46 thousand at Sunderland yesterday anyway so I guess not and they were not watching two elite clubs. That must suck for the plastic fans.

Go and read the Premier League TV Threads, FA Cup Thread, and Europa League thread, it has often been discussed

Leicester would most definitely deserve to be on the Champions League, I have no issue with them being in it at all, and will be anxious to see as number one seeds, just who they get in their group!
In a way it is sad that they won't be able to draw Bayern, PSG, or whomever wins the Spanish league (looking like Barca), but still the opportunity does exist that they could get Real Madrid, which would still be a fantastic draw for them.

As for my own club, well we are currently in a bit of a mess or quandary as to what to do next it seems, and we are very much playing catch-up with Leicester, and the other clubs vying for those much converted Champions League places.
We have a lot of sorting out to do in the summer, if we hope to get back to the top of the league, that much is for sure.

The only constant mentions of this going on are your complaints about it though.

You're largely arguing against an argument you're also inventing.

Yeah good old Jim, with his Thursday Nights on Channel 5 song

So let's not let the Chamopions have a go in Europe as it might upset the co-efficact? How small minded and typical of a modern football fan. Clearly ones who grew up knowing only big clubs could won it I'm glad I'm not of that opinion and I'm not an old guy.

Your that sure Leiciester won't do well. They would be in the best pot if they win the Leauge easy group??? Last 16 possible but would be great for them.

They don't have to win the Champions Leauge to effect co-efficant. As I said English clubs have not did well in recent seasons anyway have they? Last club to win were Chelsea correct? Are Arsenal ever going to win it with Mr Wenger? Would you not say they are a waste of a spot being beat by Barca by 9 goals over two games year after year?

Come on you can't be a football fan surely?

Listen the same people in other countries have clubs like FC Sion being there too. But they can keep getting there, more tv cash and improve I say fair play to these teams.

On this forum the main person who wants Leicester to fail is definite Leicester fan leicslad, and the main person who obsesses over coefficients is Dundeeboy who you can hear getting erect when English clubs fail.

Yes and in my opinion I don't think they will lose the 4th spot anyway. It's not Scottish football standards. Remember Spurs almost got beat by Young Boys back in 2010 that was but if they missed out on 4th that would have been a disaster. This year 4th might not be a CL spot if Liverpool win the Europa Leauge and City finish outside 4th? Somebody clarify but it was something like that so for example Arsenal could miss out. When Chelsea won it Spurs missed out too when they got 4th

Nobody can't say I'm not a Football fan, I've been posting on Football threads on here for years.

I'm housebound and watch SSNHQ virtually all day every day, I bet I know a lot more than many, and not just the PL, I have a full interest in various FL teams, watch the Vanarama League and SPFL football, don't go saying I don't support football.

And it wasn't me who was moaning, about the spots in Europe, many of my posts over the years, have been the opposite, I'm not a fan of the UCL or UEL wouldn't bother me if only the Champions made the comp

I myself do look at co-efficient but if it ever comes to barring a club as they are not say Man united we may aswell give up and watch Basketball or ice hockey. I'm no Leiciester fan but I like a good footballing side the top two deserve to be there this season next year we will be discussing different teams again I am sure.

You can watch and discuss as much football as is humanly possible but if you switch clubs because one is doing well you're not a fan or supporter, you're a viewer.

riiiight

i will wager you also takes notes watching fletch and sav !

I didn't even no co efficients existed, until I found people talking about it on Digital Spy.

I've not switched clubs this season in particular people want Leiciester to win it but in other years people care less as its another top club there.

If Man U are too next season will I buy a Man U shirt come on? You hear it everywhere in pubs and everything people want a small club to shake things up its nothing to do with switching sides it becoming a Leicester fan perhaps that's the point you are missing? This year is an extraordinary season one which people will talk about for many years.

You just like to ignore all the reasonable responses, don't you?

Paying attention to them would go against the sour grapes conspiracy you have invented for your agenda of somehow trying to wind up fans of the "big" clubs?

I personally think that you have sour grapes yourself because noone has really batted an eye at the Chelsea freefall, and other clubs are still grabbing the attention you seem to crave.

You will win on that one, I normally listen to TalkSport on a Saturday morning

Keep thinking that but it's not about Chelsea. The big club fans came into this thread they were not the same folk here in previous weeks because you probably felt Leicester would drop points and new order would be restored. This thread will be bitter and that point I will let you big club fans argue between yourselves and hope my own team do better next year but enjoy what a great season it has been for a small club to do so well and for football it's great.

Not if you look at football via co-efficacy, playing Fifa and only clubs with big money being able to win. That's how it's been and it's a shock to many and the modern plastic football fan.

Your allowed an opinion though if you think that way there's room for all types of fans and I'm happy with that however you can't be thinking people are switching teams if that was the case half of the UK Is about to swap shirts next season in a big friendly gesture lol can you imagine.

That wasn't in reference to you.

I disagree, I think it's bitterness at the lack of coverage on the Chelsea freefall. You are simply taking it out on fans of the other so called "big" clubs.

You see, it's easy to completely ignore protests to the contrary, isn't it.

I couldn't care less I don't want the media attention around Chelsea as I know the is under performing but Gus has done a good job.

There's not much to report so good luck to the media until the new manager comes in Chelsea finshing 8th isn't going to be front of the back page is it? But I don't care I would not expect Chelsea to win the title every single test this does not happen. Had a nice 5 year wait before last year.

So yes I can't see Chelsea selling newspapers when there's nowt report. Goes back to the jealousy that Leiciester are all over the back pages that must suck for United fans or ones who think football is a money Leauge?

This season has been weird also, because if there is sometimes a weird season going back in history, it tends to be a season, after a international tournament, where you get the players playing, after having not long break

Sour grapes because Chelsea are not being talked about?

I don't know what you've been paying attention to for the last 18 months, but United fans want their team to play attractive football. We aren't really looking at other teams at the moment.

Good luck to Leicester, truly. There has never been a success story like it, on a global stage, in recent history.

Probably Montpellier winning the French Title in 2011-2012 is just as equal.

A PSG side in there first year of spending big.