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Football Neutrals Thread - Part 2
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linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“Think some of the fans of the big clubs, are more concerned if the Likes of West Ham and Leicester are in the Champions League and fail we could end it with only 3 places.”

True but City have been failing for years United have dropped to Europa Leauge. A few years ago this was a shock when big clubs like Liverpool were these today it's not. Remember the C5 Thursday night jokes?

Listen Celtic made the last 16 beat Barca. Scotland lost a second spot years ago but you don't see is moaning it's upto clubs to do well and everybody should back our clubs to do well so we don't lose that spot.

Sadly spur graps, jealousy by many will hope smaller clubs fail. West Ham are moving to a bigger stadium so people can't keep dishing them anyway.

If you support football you don't care who's top four if you are more worried about "co efficient" your a modern plastic fan who sits on Fifa worries about rankings and knows little about football.
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“I'd be astonished if you can find a single page of posts in this thread or the first one that even come close to neutral. Complaining about some rampant big club bitterness you seem intent on believing is there doesn't help the case for neutrality.”

I'm making a point all the bitter fans who don't want Leicester to win are coming out. This thread has been interesting until the day or two when reality has kicked that Leiciester can win it.

Well sorry plastic fans, this is football welcome to it. I feel sorry that you have a Hamilton club top of your division in England oh wait 46 thousand at Sunderland yesterday anyway so I guess not and they were not watching two elite clubs. That must suck for the plastic fans.
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“True but City have been failing for years United have dropped to Europa Leauge. A few years ago this was a shock when big clubs like Liverpool were these today it's not. Remember the C5 Thursday night jokes?

Listen Celtic made the last 16 beat Barca. Scotland lost a second spot years ago but you don't see is moaning it's upto clubs to do well and everybody should back our clubs to do well so we don't lose that spot.

Sadly spur graps, jealousy by many will hope smaller clubs fail. West Ham are moving to a bigger stadium so people can't keep dishing them anyway.

If you support football you don't care who's top four if you are more worried about "co efficient" your a modern plastic fan who sits on Fifa worries about rankings and knows little about football.”

Go and read the Premier League TV Threads, FA Cup Thread, and Europa League thread, it has often been discussed
batdude_uk1
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Bigger than Blackburn as you never had the massive tv money or the massive ownership with so much cash like City of Chelsea. We have come through times where you "buy the title" or you have a Sir Alex. When you don't spend you don't win titles as Mr Wenger knows.

Today the Premiership is all set for the elite clubs but they can moan all they want it hurts that teams like FC Sion are there never mind Leiciester. All won there leagues and those who remember it just being the Champions Leauge. All the talk of a break away Leauge would destroy football.

If United or City have not been good enough they have to wake up smell the coffee and improve that's football. I'm sure most English clubs opposed any changes to the current Champions Leauge anyway they know if they change it the fans would uproar. If Leiciester win the division they deserve to be there with all the other "Champions" as it would have been in the old European cup days.”


Leicester would most definitely deserve to be on the Champions League, I have no issue with them being in it at all, and will be anxious to see as number one seeds, just who they get in their group!
In a way it is sad that they won't be able to draw Bayern, PSG, or whomever wins the Spanish league (looking like Barca), but still the opportunity does exist that they could get Real Madrid, which would still be a fantastic draw for them.

As for my own club, well we are currently in a bit of a mess or quandary as to what to do next it seems, and we are very much playing catch-up with Leicester, and the other clubs vying for those much converted Champions League places.
We have a lot of sorting out to do in the summer, if we hope to get back to the top of the league, that much is for sure.
celesti
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I'm making a point all the bitter fans who don't want Leicester to win are coming out. This thread has been interesting until the day or two when reality has kicked that Leiciester can win it.

Well sorry plastic fans, this is football welcome to it. I feel sorry that you have a Hamilton club top of your division in England oh wait 46 thousand at Sunderland yesterday anyway so I guess not and they were not watching two elite clubs. That must suck for the plastic fans.”

The only constant mentions of this going on are your complaints about it though.

You're largely arguing against an argument you're also inventing.
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“True but City have been failing for years United have dropped to Europa Leauge. A few years ago this was a shock when big clubs like Liverpool were these today it's not. Remember the C5 Thursday night jokes?

Listen Celtic made the last 16 beat Barca. Scotland lost a second spot years ago but you don't see is moaning it's upto clubs to do well and everybody should back our clubs to do well so we don't lose that spot.

Sadly spur graps, jealousy by many will hope smaller clubs fail. West Ham are moving to a bigger stadium so people can't keep dishing them anyway.

If you support football you don't care who's top four if you are more worried about "co efficient" your a modern plastic fan who sits on Fifa worries about rankings and knows little about football.”

Yeah good old Jim, with his Thursday Nights on Channel 5 song
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“Go and read the Premier League TV Threads, FA Cup Thread, and Europa League thread, it has often been discussed”

So let's not let the Chamopions have a go in Europe as it might upset the co-efficact? How small minded and typical of a modern football fan. Clearly ones who grew up knowing only big clubs could won it I'm glad I'm not of that opinion and I'm not an old guy.

Your that sure Leiciester won't do well. They would be in the best pot if they win the Leauge easy group??? Last 16 possible but would be great for them.

They don't have to win the Champions Leauge to effect co-efficant. As I said English clubs have not did well in recent seasons anyway have they? Last club to win were Chelsea correct? Are Arsenal ever going to win it with Mr Wenger? Would you not say they are a waste of a spot being beat by Barca by 9 goals over two games year after year?

Come on you can't be a football fan surely?
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“The only constant mentions of this going on are your complaints about it though.

You're largely arguing against an argument you're also inventing.”

Listen the same people in other countries have clubs like FC Sion being there too. But they can keep getting there, more tv cash and improve I say fair play to these teams.
celesti
11-04-2016
On this forum the main person who wants Leicester to fail is definite Leicester fan leicslad, and the main person who obsesses over coefficients is Dundeeboy who you can hear getting erect when English clubs fail.
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“On this forum the main person who wants Leicester to fail is definite Leicester fan leicslad, and the main person who obsesses over coefficients is Dundeeboy who you can hear getting erect when English clubs fail.”

Yes and in my opinion I don't think they will lose the 4th spot anyway. It's not Scottish football standards. Remember Spurs almost got beat by Young Boys back in 2010 that was but if they missed out on 4th that would have been a disaster. This year 4th might not be a CL spot if Liverpool win the Europa Leauge and City finish outside 4th? Somebody clarify but it was something like that so for example Arsenal could miss out. When Chelsea won it Spurs missed out too when they got 4th
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
Nobody can't say I'm not a Football fan, I've been posting on Football threads on here for years.

I'm housebound and watch SSNHQ virtually all day every day, I bet I know a lot more than many, and not just the PL, I have a full interest in various FL teams, watch the Vanarama League and SPFL football, don't go saying I don't support football.

And it wasn't me who was moaning, about the spots in Europe, many of my posts over the years, have been the opposite, I'm not a fan of the UCL or UEL wouldn't bother me if only the Champions made the comp
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
I myself do look at co-efficient but if it ever comes to barring a club as they are not say Man united we may aswell give up and watch Basketball or ice hockey. I'm no Leiciester fan but I like a good footballing side the top two deserve to be there this season next year we will be discussing different teams again I am sure.
celesti
11-04-2016
You can watch and discuss as much football as is humanly possible but if you switch clubs because one is doing well you're not a fan or supporter, you're a viewer.
codeblue
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“I'm housebound and watch SSNHQ virtually all day every day, I bet I know a lot more than many,”

riiiight

i will wager you also takes notes watching fletch and sav !
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
I didn't even no co efficients existed, until I found people talking about it on Digital Spy.
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“You can watch and discuss as much football as is humanly possible but if you switch clubs because one is doing well you're not a fan or supporter, you're a viewer.”

I've not switched clubs this season in particular people want Leiciester to win it but in other years people care less as its another top club there.

If Man U are too next season will I buy a Man U shirt come on? You hear it everywhere in pubs and everything people want a small club to shake things up its nothing to do with switching sides it becoming a Leicester fan perhaps that's the point you are missing? This year is an extraordinary season one which people will talk about for many years.
RevengeofthMojo
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I myself do look at co-efficient but if it ever comes to barring a club as they are not say Man united we may aswell give up and watch Basketball or ice hockey. I'm no Leiciester fan but I like a good footballing side the top two deserve to be there this season next year we will be discussing different teams again I am sure.”

You just like to ignore all the reasonable responses, don't you?

Paying attention to them would go against the sour grapes conspiracy you have invented for your agenda of somehow trying to wind up fans of the "big" clubs?

I personally think that you have sour grapes yourself because noone has really batted an eye at the Chelsea freefall, and other clubs are still grabbing the attention you seem to crave.
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“riiiight

i will wager you also takes notes watching fletch and sav !”

You will win on that one, I normally listen to TalkSport on a Saturday morning
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by RevengeofthMojo:
“You just like to ignore all the reasonable responses, don't you?

Paying attention to them would go against the sour grapes conspiracy you have invented for your agenda of somehow trying to wind up fans of the "big" clubs?

I personally think that you have sour grapes yourself because noone has really batted an eye at the Chelsea freefall, and other clubs are still grabbing the attention you seem to crave.”

Keep thinking that but it's not about Chelsea. The big club fans came into this thread they were not the same folk here in previous weeks because you probably felt Leicester would drop points and new order would be restored. This thread will be bitter and that point I will let you big club fans argue between yourselves and hope my own team do better next year but enjoy what a great season it has been for a small club to do so well and for football it's great.

Not if you look at football via co-efficacy, playing Fifa and only clubs with big money being able to win. That's how it's been and it's a shock to many and the modern plastic football fan.

Your allowed an opinion though if you think that way there's room for all types of fans and I'm happy with that however you can't be thinking people are switching teams if that was the case half of the UK Is about to swap shirts next season in a big friendly gesture lol can you imagine.
celesti
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I've not switched clubs this season in particular people want Leiciester to win it but in other years people care less as its another top club there”

That wasn't in reference to you.
RevengeofthMojo
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Keep thinking that but it's not about Chelsea. The big club fans came into this thread they were not the same folk here in previous weeks because you probably felt Leicester would drop points and new order would be restored. This thread will be bitter and that point I will let you big club fans argue between yourselves and hope my own team do better next year but enjoy what a great season it has been for a small club to do so well and for football it's great.

Not if you look at football via co-efficacy, playing Fifa and only clubs with big money being able to win. That's how it's been and it's a shock to many and the modern plastic football fan.

Your allowed an opinion though if you think that way there's room for all types of fans and I'm happy with that however you can't be thinking people are switching teams if that was the case half of the UK Is about to swap shirts next season in a big friendly gesture lol can you imagine.”

I disagree, I think it's bitterness at the lack of coverage on the Chelsea freefall. You are simply taking it out on fans of the other so called "big" clubs.

You see, it's easy to completely ignore protests to the contrary, isn't it.
linkinpark875
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by RevengeofthMojo:
“I disagree, I think it's bitterness at the lack of coverage on the Chelsea freefall. You are simply taking it out on fans of the other so called "big" clubs.

You see, it's easy to completely ignore protests to the contrary, isn't it.”

I couldn't care less I don't want the media attention around Chelsea as I know the is under performing but Gus has done a good job.

There's not much to report so good luck to the media until the new manager comes in Chelsea finshing 8th isn't going to be front of the back page is it? But I don't care I would not expect Chelsea to win the title every single test this does not happen. Had a nice 5 year wait before last year.

So yes I can't see Chelsea selling newspapers when there's nowt report. Goes back to the jealousy that Leiciester are all over the back pages that must suck for United fans or ones who think football is a money Leauge?
jazzydrury3
11-04-2016
This season has been weird also, because if there is sometimes a weird season going back in history, it tends to be a season, after a international tournament, where you get the players playing, after having not long break
RevengeofthMojo
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I couldn't care less I don't want the media attention around Chelsea as I know the is under performing but Gus has done a good job.

There's not much to report so good luck to the media until the new manager comes in Chelsea finshing 8th isn't going to be front of the back page is it? But I don't care I would not expect Chelsea to win the title every single test this does not happen. Had a nice 5 year wait before last year.

So yes I can't see Chelsea selling newspapers when there's nowt report. Goes back to the jealousy that Leiciester are all over the back pages that must suck for United fans or ones who think football is a money Leauge?”

Sour grapes because Chelsea are not being talked about?

I don't know what you've been paying attention to for the last 18 months, but United fans want their team to play attractive football. We aren't really looking at other teams at the moment.

Good luck to Leicester, truly. There has never been a success story like it, on a global stage, in recent history.
misawa97
11-04-2016
Originally Posted by RevengeofthMojo:
“Sour grapes because Chelsea are not being talked about?

I don't know what you've been paying attention to for the last 18 months, but United fans want their team to play attractive football. We aren't really looking at other teams at the moment.

Good luck to Leicester, truly. There has never been a success story like it, on a global stage, in recent history.”

Probably Montpellier winning the French Title in 2011-2012 is just as equal.

A PSG side in there first year of spending big.
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