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Old 25-04-2016, 05:59
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I went to the 1990 replay after queuing up for hours outside Wembley for tickets, was a great night.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:02
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I went to the 1990 replay after queuing up for hours outside Wembley for tickets, was a great night.
I wasn't allowed because it was on a school night and we wouldn't have got back until the early hours. My dad took me and my brother 3-3 on the Saturday though.

Queued for hours for that one too, but at Old Trafford. I remember we got there at about 8am and the queue was a full lap of the ground. It went inside it for part of the way and some lads were having a kickabout on the pitch for a while until they got chased off.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:02
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I went to the 1990 replay after queuing up for hours outside Wembley for tickets, was a great night.
I went to both games, though playing the replay on a Thursday was a bit of a mare. Ended up flying to London and back for that one. Thinking about that replay always make me recall Sealey's face at the end of the game, he just couldn't believe what had happened. I recall he even offered Leighton his medal, what a guy he was, such a shame he passed away so young.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:03
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I remember being at a family wedding, I was 9 years old and all the men (and a few of us lads) were huddled in a back room. My dad's family all big Utd fans and his mates all big Liverpool fans so plenty of atmosphere for the entire match.

I remember the news breaking that Les Sealey was going to play and remember Lee Martin's goal so vividly. Good times.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:09
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I wasn't allowed because it was on a school night and we wouldn't have got back until the early hours. My dad took me and my brother 3-3 on the Saturday though.

Queued for hours for that one too, but at Old Trafford. I remember we got there at about 8am and the queue was a full lap of the ground. It went inside it for part of the way and some lads were having a kickabout on the pitch for awhile until they got chased off.
They'd been playing on the pitch all morning, my dad and I got to the ground at 6am, having done the same in 83 and 85. At various times people had gone on and had a bit of a kick about. Did so myself, for about 5 minutes, just say I've "played at OT". Those were the days when season ticket holders were guaranteed tickets for cup finals and pre automatic cup scheme.

Would hate having to wait so long at the time, but looking back I actually enjoyed it, everyone would chat to each other, anyone with hot drinks would share, others in turn would share crisps etc. It wouldn't be like that now.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:15
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I'm so glad we're in the FA Cup Final: we just need to win it now!

It's the one trophy I've been wanting us to add to our tally, as it's been so long since we last won it.

In the time since we last won, Arsenal have overtaken us as the historical Cup kings.

Winning it now would put us joint top with them at least.

I'm also hoping that just like 1990, if we go on to actually win it, it would be start of a glorious period for us!
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Old 25-04-2016, 13:14
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I remember being at a family wedding, I was 9 years old and all the men (and a few of us lads) were huddled in a back room. My dad's family all big Utd fans and his mates all big Liverpool fans so plenty of atmosphere for the entire match.

I remember the news breaking that Les Sealey was going to play and remember Lee Martin's goal so vividly. Good times.

Good to see Lee again at half time on Saturday. Thinking about it that replay winning goal was the catalyst for all the glory that followed so we owe the lad a lot.
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Old 25-04-2016, 14:30
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Good to see Lee again at half time on Saturday. Thinking about it that replay winning goal was the catalyst for all the glory that followed so we owe the lad a lot.
That cup run was vital, and the Forest game in it certainly played it's part in the mystic of Alex eventually becoming Sir Alex.

Wish that I had strong memories of that time period, but my first true memories are not until about a year or so later (although for some reason I do have a Notts County match at Old Trafford implanted on my brain, I think Bruce scored??).

I remember being really excited about the Cup Winners Cup run, and seeing all of these teams that previously I had never heard of before (no FM, or Internet at that age to do some research on them!).

What were everyone else's earliest memories of the club?
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Old 25-04-2016, 17:20
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That cup run was vital, and the Forest game in it certainly played it's part in the mystic of Alex eventually becoming Sir Alex.

Wish that I had strong memories of that time period, but my first true memories are not until about a year or so later (although for some reason I do have a Notts County match at Old Trafford implanted on my brain, I think Bruce scored??).

I remember being really excited about the Cup Winners Cup run, and seeing all of these teams that previously I had never heard of before (no FM, or Internet at that age to do some research on them!).

What were everyone else's earliest memories of the club?
County were promoted to the top flight for the 91/92 season, Bruce didn't score in either of the games against them. Though the home game, our season opener was Schmeichel's debut.

As for your comment over the previous years ECWC, FM was around then, we were on FM 2 at that point, whilst a World Cup edition had also been released.
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Old 25-04-2016, 18:21
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County were promoted to the top flight for the 91/92 season, Bruce didn't score in either of the games against them. Though the home game, our season opener was Schmeichel's debut.

As for your comment over the previous years ECWC, FM was around then, we were on FM 2 at that point, whilst a World Cup edition had also been released.
Ahh perhaps my old mind was or is playing tricks on me!

I didn't start playing FM (or rather CM) until number three, so I missed out on the previous games (I was into Ultimate Soccer Manager- the one where you could offer bungs, and had an editor where you could put yourself into the game!).
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Old 25-04-2016, 19:56
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Anyone think that we might see Shaw in the team, before the end of the season?
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:13
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Ahh perhaps my old mind was or is playing tricks on me!

I didn't start playing FM (or rather CM) until number three, so I missed out on the previous games (I was into Ultimate Soccer Manager- the one where you could offer bungs, and had an editor where you could put yourself into the game!).
USM was quality especially the 98 version, loved building a team and stadium that you could see.

Anyone think that we might see Shaw in the team, before the end of the season?
No do t think its worth the risk to be honest. Hopefully he has a good pre season though.
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:23
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Yeah the building of stadiums is something that I do miss from modern management games like FM, (that and the bung option).

USM was actually a pretty fun game, and the visuals, even just pictures were good, I liked the chairman's office from memory, and the manager's office where you had a filing cabinet, a TV for checking results etc, and the fax machine!

Ahh it makes me want to play it again now!
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:35
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Yeah the building of stadiums is something that I do miss from modern management games like FM, (that and the bung option).

USM was actually a pretty fun game, and the visuals, even just pictures were good, I liked the chairman's office from memory, and the manager's office where you had a filing cabinet, a TV for checking results etc, and the fax machine!

Ahh it makes me want to play it again now!
Its on my laptop, its free to download legally off the net try abandonware or just type it in google.

I would love to see a stadium build option in fm that you could see and devolpe.
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:41
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It is not about one player, it is about the ideal, the system itself.

José does not have a good record when it comes to developing youth, he comes in does well at a club for a short while, then leaves, leaving behind a bit of a mess.

I want the club to be in a good state after he leaves, the club is more than just the first team, more than just what happens in the here and now, it is about the future.

Thinking short-term is what has got us into this mess we find ourselves, there needs to be a modicum of longer term targets.
One of those targets should be to aid the development of our most promising young players.

José at Chelsea had a group that were the best in Europe, yet did he at all try to bed them into their first team? No he didn't, even when the current players were under-performing, he still played them, rather than giving a good, young, and hungry player a chance.

Yes of course I want us to be successful, who doesn't, but it is about trying at the very least to look at a bigger picture.

If José comes in, and changes his spots, then I will be very impressed, and hugely relived, but there is not much to go on in terms of his C.V. in this department.
The same old waffle. Tedious in the extreme.

Any manager will play what he considers to be his best available team, in order to win matches. That's his job.

If that includes someone who's been doing great for the reserves/in training, then so be it.

We are Manchester United. The brief for any manager is to win things, or at least put up a decent challenge. Bringing through youth players isn't principally his job. That's down to the staff briefed to work with/scout/sign up the youth players. If they've done their job, then it's natural that they'll make their way into the first team.

I know this, most people know this, Mourinho knows this. You don't know this, for whatever reason.
Explain how or why none of the best youth side in Europe got their chance in Chelsea's drastically underperforming side, if as you say that "....it's natural that they'll make their way into the first team."?

Surely at least one or two of them were worth a place or giving a chance to, over a fair few of the underperforming players that he had at first team level?

It is very easy to just get caught up in short term thinking, about the here and now, about winning titles in the next season, or the one after that, but we need to be thinking as a club more long-term than that.
Having a manager that will no matter what, play players without giving a thought to the next generation, is not at all ideal.

As I say, if José comes in, and he has changed his tune, then I for one will be thrilled about that, but currently there is not much evidence to prove that he will.

A manager of ours has a responsibility to the club as a whole, not just the first team.
Part of his responsibility is to try and help develop the more talented youth players at our disposal, and that means working with them in training, and if they are good enough, playing them in matches, that is what we have been known for, and I do hope that continues.

It would be terribly sad indeed, if we were to just buy in a whole new team, and players that we don't need to do (see José doing so with Falcao at Chelsea for example, they didn't need him, yet they brought him in anyway).
A youth player could have easily filled that role at the club at that time (and being the best in Europe, you would think that was a distinct possibility).

If you do not agree with this, then fine, but what is with the needless and senseless jabs or barbs? Just say that you disagree and leave it there.

However much I like the look of some of the youngsters we have , it would be foolish to say we should only try and bring the kids through and make them into stars.

If mourinho brought in 5 players and didn't pick rashford for 60% of the games but won the league, europa and fa cup I'm pretty sure we would all be happy.

If we go out every few years and buy a brilliant team that's very successful ( pretty much like fergie did ) then I'd be more than happy.

We were lucky to get the players we got through all at once. Since the class of 92 who else would you say has been at their level that has come through the youth team?

Please don't just keep saying the same old twaddle just for the sake of it.
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Old 25-04-2016, 20:54
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Cant believe it just checked my emails and united given 28,000 tickets for the fa cup final.
So 56k supporters there and 34k go to whom!
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Old 25-04-2016, 21:00
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Cant believe it just checked my emails and united given 28,000 tickets for the fa cup final.
So 56k supporters there and 34k go to whom!
Coca cola
Mcdonalds
Schools
Junior Football clubs
Bankers
UEFA officials
Fa officials

It takes the bloody wee wee
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Old 25-04-2016, 21:10
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Its on my laptop, its free to download legally off the net try abandonware or just type it in google.

I would love to see a stadium build option in fm that you could see and devolpe.
Oh thanks for that, I will have a look later on!
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Old 25-04-2016, 21:47
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We were lucky to get the players we got through all at once. Since the class of 92 who else would you say has been at their level that has come through the youth team?

Please don't just keep saying the same old twaddle just for the sake of it.
This is exactly why I get so frustrated with people peddling this myth that we've always had a conveyor belt of talent coming through.

Only twice, in living memory, has a 'crop' come through. There's been the odd one every now and then, like Hughes, McGrath, Whiteside, but generally, it just doesn't happen.

Off the top of my head, since the 'Class of '92', we've produced:

Kieran Richardson: Not good enough, sold.
Wes Brown: Decent squad player, but sold.
John O'Shea: Same as Brown.
Tom Cleverley: Not good enough, sold.
Jonny Evans: Ok squad player, but sold.
Danny Welbeck: Not good enough, sold.
Darron Gibson: Not good enough, sold.
Federico Macheda: Not good enough, sold.
Will Keane: Not good enough, will never play for the first team again.

And these are just the ones that have got more than 10 minutes in the League Cup.

Of the current crop, Rashford and Borthwick-Jackson have shown promise. Fosu-Mensah could go either way and the rest will be forgotten soon enough. The much-heralded Varela was bought, so is no different to Shaw.

Therefore, I really am not bothered if Mourinho has no real track record of bringing players through, because neither do we.
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Old 25-04-2016, 21:54
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Football's a funny game - re the title race.

All this talk of Leicester still have to face United and Chelsea so Spurs could still catch them with their easier final games ... and Spurs dream ends at home thanks to lowly West Brom!

And Leicester will win the title if they win at Old Trafford ...
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Old 25-04-2016, 22:14
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I was hoping for (and expected) a Spurs win tonight because now the entire World's press media and their dogs will be at OT willing Leicester on to win the title there and then, and they will bust a gut ten times over to try and do it. The officials may be tempted to enable it, too...

Makes it harder now for us to get the win I've been anticipating for a while, much harder, so we are going to have to play an absolute blinder *and* beat the officials to do it. Damn and drat! It's almost as if it was pre-ordained but I'd luv it just luv it if we beat them!
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Old 25-04-2016, 22:21
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I want Leicester to win the title at home, so that means we either beat them or draw them, Tottenham beat Chelsea, and Leicester crush Everton.

But I won't lie, I won't be too upset if Leicester win the title this Sunday. We still want LVG out, don't we?
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Old 25-04-2016, 22:22
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Looks like Leicester may well be without Vardy for our match, not that hindered them too much against Swansea!
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Old 25-04-2016, 22:24
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But I won't lie, I won't be too upset if Leicester win the title this Sunday. We still want LVG out, don't we?
Yes, but I'd be pretty sure that the decision will have already been made.

I can't want anything other than a United win. Couldn't give a rat's about Leicester winning the league.
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Old 25-04-2016, 22:25
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I want Leicester to win the title at home, so that means we either beat them or draw them, Tottenham beat Chelsea, and Leicester crush Everton.

But I won't lie, I won't be too upset if Leicester win the title this Sunday. We still want LVG out, don't we?
Nah, I want us to thump them!
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