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Old 17-05-2016, 07:23
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Next season probably in either the league or Capital One cup.
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Old 17-05-2016, 09:37
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A lot of the papers seem to be pushing the line that De Gea will look to leave, if Van Gaal stays for another year.

However, there appears to be a suggestion that it might just be a bit of muscle-flexing, by Jorge Mendes, in an effort to pressure the club into appointing Mourinho.

I'm certainly no Mendes fan, but if it results in De Gea staying and Mourinho in the big chair, I'm all for it.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:03
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A lot of the papers seem to be pushing the line that De Gea will look to leave, if Van Gaal stays for another year.

However, there appears to be a suggestion that it might just be a bit of muscle-flexing, by Jorge Mendes, in an effort to pressure the club into appointing Mourinho.

I'm certainly no Mendes fan, but if it results in De Gea staying and Mourinho in the big chair, I'm all for it.
There's also a story in one of the papers about how Mourinho will start talking to PSG if nothing's sorted with United in the next couple of weeks.

Again, no doubt all part of the game by Mendes.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:18
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There's also a story in one of the papers about how Mourinho will start talking to PSG if nothing's sorted with United in the next couple of weeks.

Again, no doubt all part of the game by Mendes.
He got bored playing two high profile games a season whilst at Real Madrid, so why would he go to PSG, where if they only win the league by a gap of 20 points that is considered a failure?

No chance of him going there.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:19
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A lot of the papers seem to be pushing the line that De Gea will look to leave, if Van Gaal stays for another year.

However, there appears to be a suggestion that it might just be a bit of muscle-flexing, by Jorge Mendes, in an effort to pressure the club into appointing Mourinho.

I'm certainly no Mendes fan, but if it results in De Gea staying and Mourinho in the big chair, I'm all for it.
Silly season has started before the Premier League season has even finished I see!
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:22
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He got bored playing two high profile games a season whilst at Real Madrid, so why would he go to PSG, where if they only win the league by a gap of 20 points that is considered a failure?

No chance of him going there.
He's not exactly got a reputation for ignoring a big money offer
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:24
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He's not exactly got a reputation for ignoring a big money offer
He hasn't got a reputation for doing things the easy way either has he?

And going to PSG would be doing just that, as that is one team league.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:39
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Silly season has started before the Premier League season has even finished I see!
Why would that story be classed as 'silly season'?

There's every chance that there's at least some truth in it, especially as it's being run by multiple outlets.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:49
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Why would that story be classed as 'silly season'?

There's every chance that there's at least some truth in it, especially as it's being run by multiple outlets.
Well it is "silly season", as you always tend to get stories linking players away, usually though they tend to be after the season has finished not before it has!

As for this one in particular, well we have already had loads written about it last summer, I would have thought that his new deal that he signed would have put some of this to bed, but I guess not.

Lets wait and see, if he were to leave, and that is still a huge, gigantic if, then I would want us to be compensated as fairly as possible, and since he is in the top two or three keepers in the world, then a fee should match that, none of this £30-40 million nonsense, it should be way higher than that, if not double that.

Whomever we would be trying to get to replace him, would not be as good as him, that much is for sure.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:53
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Well it is "silly season", as you always tend to get stories linking players away, usually though they tend to be after the season has finished not before it has!

As for this one in particular, well we have already had loads written about it last summer, I would have thought that his new deal that he signed would have put some of this to bed, but I guess not.

Lets wait and see, if he were to leave, and that is still a huge, gigantic if, then I would want us to be compensated as fairly as possible, and since he is in the top two or three keepers in the world, then a fee should match that, none of this £30-40 million nonsense, it should be way higher than that, if not double that.

Whomever we would be trying to get to replace him, would not be as good as him, that much is for sure.
There's no point in having this conversation, as you have proven time and time again that you can't grasp how these things work.

£30-40m for a goalkeeper is not 'nonsense', it's realistic. You don't seem to realise that goalkeepers aren't valued as highly as attacking players.

There is absolutely no way that we'd get £80m for De Gea.
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:55
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£70-80m for De Gea... Ridiculous!
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:56
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If I was De Gea, faced with no CL football and the prospect of working with Van Gaal for another year, then I'd be looking to go too.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:00
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Well it is "silly season", as you always tend to get stories linking players away, usually though they tend to be after the season has finished not before it has!

As for this one in particular, well we have already had loads written about it last summer, I would have thought that his new deal that he signed would have put some of this to bed, but I guess not.

Lets wait and see, if he were to leave, and that is still a huge, gigantic if, then I would want us to be compensated as fairly as possible, and since he is in the top two or three keepers in the world, then a fee should match that, none of this £30-40 million nonsense, it should be way higher than that, if not double that.

Whomever we would be trying to get to replace him, would not be as good as him, that much is for sure.
Really? Did you miss all the back pages of papers for the last two weeks?
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:01
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Well it is "silly season", as you always tend to get stories linking players away, usually though they tend to be after the season has finished not before it has!

As for this one in particular, well we have already had loads written about it last summer, I would have thought that his new deal that he signed would have put some of this to bed, but I guess not.

Lets wait and see, if he were to leave, and that is still a huge, gigantic if, then I would want us to be compensated as fairly as possible, and since he is in the top two or three keepers in the world, then a fee should match that, none of this £30-40 million nonsense, it should be way higher than that, if not double that.

Whomever we would be trying to get to replace him, would not be as good as him, that much is for sure.
Firstly the fee - to expect £80m for a goalkeeper is quite possibly the most bonkers thing you've put on here and let's be honest you've covered some ground!!

The 'huge gigantic if'.

End of the season DDG wants to leave and is actually seconds away from going because

(a) he wants to play for Real a lot
(b) he wants to move back there
(c) his girlfriend wants to move back there with him.

Literally the only single thing that stopped it was a fax machine and nothing else. He didn't change his mind, he didn't realise Manchester was for him it was purely down to the fax machine.

Imagine standing at the alter about to get married and the vicar keels over and dies. No one changed their mind or realised they were in love with a random porn star it was purely down to a circumstance. They're still very much in love but are just waiting for a new vicar to restart the service.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:07
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Firstly the fee - to expect £80m for a goalkeeper is quite possibly the most bonkers thing you've put on here and let's be honest you've covered some ground!!

The 'huge gigantic if'.

End of the season DDG wants to leave and is actually seconds away from going because

(a) he wants to play for Real a lot
(b) he wants to move back there
(c) his girlfriend wants to move back there with him.

Literally the only single thing that stopped it was a fax machine and nothing else. He didn't change his mind, he didn't realise Manchester was for him it was purely down to the fax machine.

Imagine standing at the alter about to get married and the vicar keels over and dies. No one changed their mind or realised they were in love with a random porn star it was purely down to a circumstance. They're still very much in love but are just waiting for a new vicar to restart the service.
There is all of that, but he did sign a new long-term contract with us, lets not forget about that, so he must have wanted to stay with us, as what would be the point in signing it, if he wanted out of the club?

How much would Bayern charge for Neuer if it were possible to sign him?
As we are talking the very highest elite of the elite goalkeepers here, and make no mistake De Gea is in that very high end bracket.

Getting "only" £30-40million for De Gea would be selling him on the cheap, and if that were to be the range of figures that he went for, then I for one would feel not only sad that he left us, but also that we sold him below value.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:10
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There's no point in having this conversation, as you have proven time and time again that you can't grasp how these things work.

£30-40m for a goalkeeper is not 'nonsense', it's realistic. You don't seem to realise that goalkeepers aren't valued as highly as attacking players.

There is absolutely no way that we'd get £80m for De Gea.
I do understand how things work thank you very much.

We should be looking to get as much as possible for De Gea, as he is in the very elite bracket of goalkeepers, and as such, we should be looking for a price to reflect that.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:13
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There is all of that, but he did sign a new long-term contract with us, lets not forget about that, so he must have wanted to stay with us, as what would be the point in signing it, if he wanted out of the club?

How much would Bayern charge for Neuer if it were possible to sign him?
As we are talking the very highest elite of the elite goalkeepers here, and make no mistake De Gea is in that very high end bracket.

Getting "only" £30-40million for De Gea would be selling him on the cheap, and if that were to be the range of figures that he went for, then I for one would feel not only sad that he left us, but also that we sold him below value.
Because as you stated quite often he wanted to play in the Euros and without playing then he wouldn't go.

I think I'm right in thinking his contract was at the end or about to end - did you expect him to sit at home and post on DS all day?

And as everyone has pointed out anything above £30-40m is ridiculous.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:21
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AS have said today that he has a release clause of 50m euros (about £40m) but that it expires on June 15 to avoid the late rush happening again.
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Old 17-05-2016, 11:29
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I do understand how things work thank you very much.

We should be looking to get as much as possible for De Gea, as he is in the very elite bracket of goalkeepers, and as such, we should be looking for a price to reflect that.
De Gea isn't going to be available on the open market though. There will be no competitive bidding for him. United would get only what Real Madrid are willing to pay. Or much more likely, what they have already agreed they would pay, if they still want to buy him this Summer.
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Old 17-05-2016, 12:28
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De Gea isn't going to be available on the open market though. There will be no competitive bidding for him. United would get only what Real Madrid are willing to pay. Or much more likely, what they have already agreed they would pay, if they still want to buy him this Summer.
I hope that he is not available on the open market, now or in the long-term!

Let's see what happens, as if Real do want him, send with a long-term contract with us, we should up the price if they really do want him.
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Old 17-05-2016, 12:45
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So if Jose arrives we can prossibly say hello to Zlatan and De Gea staying.

SIgn me up please!
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Old 17-05-2016, 13:36
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Changing tack for a moment, I thought that Schweinsteiger was out until next season, but it seems as if he is in Germany's Euro squad.
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:23
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Even Ed couldn't get in without being searched today!

https://twitter.com/MUnitedHome/stat...455257600?s=09
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:30
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Even Ed couldn't get in without being searched today!

https://twitter.com/MUnitedHome/stat...455257600?s=09
As it should be, we looked like idiots after Sunday's debacle knowone should be above being searched we have to ensure that everything is done correctly to prevent anything like that happening again tonight however unlikely that is, safety always has to come first, i just hope a proper check of the stadium has been done this time
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Old 17-05-2016, 17:35
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As it should be, we looked like idiots after Sunday's debacle knowone should be above being searched we have to ensure that everything is done correctly to prevent anything like that happening again tonight however unlikely that is, safety always has to come first, i just hope a proper check of the stadium has been done this time
Just imagine the outrage if it is called off again!
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