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Old 11-03-2016, 14:28
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Because we are Manchester United. Nothing more than that.
Klopp went to Liverpool because they are Liverpool fc.
United are 1 of the top 3 biggest clubs in the world.

Also the challenge of winning in a different league would prove huge when all you have to do in France is turn up and get a result.
Klopp didn't walk out on Dortmund to go to Liverpool though did he.
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Old 11-03-2016, 15:22
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A truly shocking performance that was from United. When you have United greats like Scholes and Ferdinand saying how poor United are you know its bad. Listen i have given LVG enough time, despite what people say he should have been sacked December 2015. The fact that the United board didnt want to sack him just bvecause they wanted to look like a club who dont sack there manager every year. So look at the posistion we are in now Virtually no chance of making the Top 4 this year, Virtually out of the Uefa Cup to Scum Scousers and it wouldnt surprise me one bit if West Ham beat us on Sunday. If any of you can defend LVG now this please go ahead. We are not a team who can now challenge for The Premier league or any other trophy. Shocking.
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Old 11-03-2016, 15:31
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I'm not so certain of that at all.

Firstly Blanc and the PSG owners seem to have a fantastic relationship hence the renewed contract. They could go and get someone bigger than Blanc but they really believe in him. Walk away from a recently newly signed contract after the faith they have shown in him? Not a chance

Secondly I think Blanc has genuine aspirations to win the CL or at least reach the final. He has a much better chance of doing that with PSG than he would with Utd in the short term.

Thirdly The project at PSG is far from finished and I think Blanc is still probably thinking about the team he wants for the next couple of years.



Does anyone dispute that he would be tempted? Timing matters as well. I believe Pep would of been hugely tempted by Utd but again the timing wasn't right simply cos City had already done all the work.
PSG will never be a bigger club than Manchester United no matter how much cash they throw at the team. Project or not, and new contract or not, you're in the wrong job if you don't answer United's call.

Manchester United, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona. If these teams come knocking you'd be insane to turn them down.

PSG are not in that bracket.
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Old 11-03-2016, 15:50
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I am a "money man" and the thought of all that money down the pan makes me want to cry.
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Old 11-03-2016, 15:52
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PSG will never be a bigger club than Manchester United no matter how much cash they throw at the team. Project or not, and new contract or not, you're in the wrong job if you don't answer United's call.

Manchester United, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona. If these teams come knocking you'd be insane to turn them down.

PSG are not in that bracket.
I never said they were but to just think Man Utd can just come calling and he would come running because it's Man Utd is nothing short of arrogance. Blanc has plenty time on his side and how about a thing which fans seem to cherish called loyalty.

Maybe Laurent Blanc feels he should see out his 2 year extension rather than go running to a 'bigger' club.
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Old 11-03-2016, 16:54
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PSG will never be a bigger club than Manchester United no matter how much cash they throw at the team. Project or not, and new contract or not, you're in the wrong job if you don't answer United's call.

Manchester United, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona. If these teams come knocking you'd be insane to turn them down.

PSG are not in that bracket.
times change, liverpool would have been in that bracket in 80s after all
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Old 11-03-2016, 17:18
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I'm not so certain of that at all.

Firstly Blanc and the PSG owners seem to have a fantastic relationship hence the renewed contract. They could go and get someone bigger than Blanc but they really believe in him. Walk away from a recently newly signed contract after the faith they have shown in him? Not a chance
Really not sure they do. He was supposedly their sixth choice for manager and he's been on an unusually short term contract for a manager his entire time at PSG, being given a new 2 year deal with a few months left on your current one suggests that it's more they view him as their best option.

A truly shocking performance that was from United. When you have United greats like Scholes and Ferdinand saying how poor United are you know its bad. Listen i have given LVG enough time, despite what people say he should have been sacked December 2015. The fact that the United board didnt want to sack him just bvecause they wanted to look like a club who dont sack there manager every year. So look at the posistion we are in now Virtually no chance of making the Top 4 this year, Virtually out of the Uefa Cup to Scum Scousers and it wouldnt surprise me one bit if West Ham beat us on Sunday. If any of you can defend LVG now this please go ahead. We are not a team who can now challenge for The Premier league or any other trophy. Shocking.
BiB: Just urgh.

Don't see how it is a 'fact' that we haven't sacked him simply for appearances sake.
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Old 11-03-2016, 17:33
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times change, liverpool would have been in that bracket in 80s after all
Agree. I've no doubt United can attract big name players even when in a lull (as they did in the 70s and 80s and Liverpool did in the 90s and later) but the real ambitious players or those with a certain senses of worth will begin to look elsewhere if their suitors can't offer CL football or a guaranteed title challenge - that's the reality. Location plays a part too and sadly so does who's prepared to pay the highest salary.

United have lost out in signing enough big name players to clubs not on that esteemed list to clearly demonstrate that the mane alone is not enough in many cases.
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Old 11-03-2016, 18:14
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times change, liverpool would have been in that bracket in 80s after all
You're right, it's was always my worry that once Fergie retired United would face a long period in the wilderness just like Liverpool have since their last league title. The last 3 seasons have done nothing to ease those concerns.
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Old 11-03-2016, 19:18
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Old 11-03-2016, 19:20
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Surprised this hasn't been posted here:

Mourinho to join a 'new club' in July - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-van-Gaal.html

Only realistic options are us or Madrid. If we let him go it is an utter shambles.
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Old 11-03-2016, 19:31
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Really not sure they do. He was supposedly their sixth choice for manager and he's been on an unusually short term contract for a manager his entire time at PSG, being given a new 2 year deal with a few months left on your current one suggests that it's more they view him as their


BiB: Just urgh.

Don't see how it is a 'fact' that we haven't sacked him simply for appearances sake.
He was not sacked as the Group of 4 had not collectively reached that decision.
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Old 11-03-2016, 20:51
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Surprised this hasn't been posted here:

Mourinho to join a 'new club' in July - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-van-Gaal.html

Only realistic options are us or Madrid. If we let him go it is an utter shambles.
Agreed but I don't think that will happen. Think everything is pointing to us having an agreement in place already.

He was not sacked as the Group of 4 had not collectively reached that decision.
What do you mean?
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Old 11-03-2016, 21:30
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I'd be happy for Van Gaal to go now. Would prefer him to actually.
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Old 11-03-2016, 21:38
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I'd be happy for Van Gaal to go now. Would prefer him to actually.
No chance.

We just have to grin and bear it, until the end of the season. If he was going to be sacked, he would have been. The only way that it changes is if we can no longer qualify for next season's Champions League (not that we're likely to, obviously).
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Old 11-03-2016, 22:04
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No chance.

We just have to grin and bear it, until the end of the season. If he was going to be sacked, he would have been. The only way that it changes is if we can no longer qualify for next season's Champions League (not that we're likely to, obviously).
So next Thursday he is going to be sacked then?!
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Old 11-03-2016, 22:08
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So next Thursday he is going to be sacked then?!
Mathematically. That's what they did with Moyes.

Even then, if there is an agreement for Mourinho to come in at the end of the season, and Giggs refuses to fill in, then we're probably stuck with him regardless.

Anyway, I don't think that it really matters. We're not doing anything significant this season, whoever is at the helm.
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Old 11-03-2016, 22:28
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Mathematically. That's what they did with Moyes.

Even then, if there is an agreement for Mourinho to come in at the end of the season, and Giggs refuses to fill in, then we're probably stuck with him regardless.

Anyway, I don't think that it really matters. We're not doing anything significant this season, whoever is at the helm.
Yeah, I was being slightly tongue in cheek about it, (and going out to them would be a total nightmare) but the Moyes situation might very well apply here as well, which if we carry on as we are doing, might not to far away!

As for Giggs not wanting to do it as an interim, well why not give it to Joyce, if it say just two or three games from the end of the season?
Or even now?
Yes, it might very well be a disruption to the Under 21 title challenge, but the first team is what matter most.

I am coming round to the idea, that LvG staying here is now doing more harm than good, the atmosphere enveloping the club is becoming worse week on week.
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Old 11-03-2016, 22:40
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As for Giggs not wanting to do it as an interim, well why not give it to Joyce, if it say just two or three games from the end of the season?
Or even now?
Yes, it might very well be a disruption to the Under 21 title challenge, but the first team is what matter most.

I am coming round to the idea, that LvG staying here is now doing more harm than good, the atmosphere enveloping the club is becoming worse week on week.
Perhaps Joyce wouldn't want to do it either? If he takes it on, and is a disaster, it could potentially threaten his standing at the club. See also: Carver, John.

I honestly don't think that anyone gives even half a sh*t about the 'Under 21 title challenge', at this point.

I tend to agree, about Van Gaal, but I don't see the harm in keeping him on, at this point. We're drifting to the end of the season, whatever happens.
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Old 12-03-2016, 00:03
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I tend to agree, about Van Gaal, but I don't see the harm in keeping him on, at this point. We're drifting to the end of the season, whatever happens.
I think you are right there, though fluking our way to an FA Cup win is always possible at this stage of the competition. Europa League, well we are probably out of that one and would be highly unlikely to win it anyway. But in the League, our results will probably pick up again by the end of the month, when the injuries will mostly be back, so we should be safe for a Europa League place next season...

Ouch!
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Old 12-03-2016, 03:44
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Two days of people talking about the stupidity of using certain terms to refer to clubs/fans, and you pop up with that? Your parents must be so proud.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:50
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I'd be happy for Van Gaal to go now. Would prefer him to actually.
He wont though. By the time it's mathematically impossible to get 4th spot there'll probably only be 3 or 4 games left, and it would be pointless to appoint the next manager then, so he'll stick around until the bitter end.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:51
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Perhaps Joyce wouldn't want to do it either? If he takes it on, and is a disaster, it could potentially threaten his standing at the club. See also: Carver, John.

I honestly don't think that anyone gives even half a sh*t about the 'Under 21 title challenge', at this point.

I tend to agree, about Van Gaal, but I don't see the harm in keeping him on, at this point. We're drifting to the end of the season, whatever happens.
Surely there is someone that would do the job, even if it is only for 3 or four games (or less) at the club?

Is the position that bad, that no-one would want to have "Manchester United first team manager/head coach" on their C.V. even for a brief period, have Moyes and LvG made it that toxic a role???
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:26
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Surely there is someone that would do the job, even if it is only for 3 or four games (or less) at the club?

Is the position that bad, that no-one would want to have "Manchester United first team manager/head coach" on their C.V. even for a brief period, have Moyes and LvG made it that toxic a role???
No, i think many managers would like the role but not at this stage of the season.

good to see you're up and about early today batdude. thats the best way to deal with any illness - meet it head on!
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:35
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No, i think many managers would like the role but not at this stage of the season.

good to see you're up and about early today batdude. thats the best way to deal with any illness - meet it head on!
It is just annoying how it just seems to be that no-one would like the role, even for a short period time, heck Big Ron does quite a few games for MUTV, so I wouldn't be opposed to asking him, that is how desperate things are right now!
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