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Old 22-05-2016, 17:04
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Ignorance? No just my view on a player, dont rate him and never will. He could put on a united shirt and i'll still says hes overrated.



Absurd? Again refer to my comments above.
You've simply said you don't rate him - conveniently ignoring statistical evidence that proves he contributes significantly in scoring or assisting in the scoring of goals. If you want to continue to embarrass yourself please do it somewhere else as I don't want to continue it in here particularly.
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Old 22-05-2016, 17:12
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Thank god for that. You know united win the cup yesterday. And they did it without James poxy Milner
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Old 22-05-2016, 17:28
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I'm pretty sure he knew the situation last Sunday when no CL next season was confirmed.
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Old 22-05-2016, 17:43
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Who do you think will be joses first signing? Going go for stones from everton.
I hope not every time I saw him he was a liability, he's clearly a good footballer but reminds me of David Luiz in the sense that although he's a very good footballer he's a poor defender. He could yet make a top centre half but I belivie Mensa has more potential than him anyway.

As a centre half I wouldn't mind someone like Ashley williams or van Dijk who I feel are underrated plus when smalling is out we need a defender who loves actually defending.Blind is a good centre half but needs to be next to someone like Smalling who wil do the dirt work. Jones and Rojo make me nervous with their rash decisions and also injury prone nature makes them unreliable
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Old 22-05-2016, 18:08
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I hope not every time I saw him he was a liability, he's clearly a good footballer but reminds me of David Luiz in the sense that although he's a very good footballer he's a poor defender. He could yet make a top centre half but I belivie Mensa has more potential than him anyway.

As a centre half I wouldn't mind someone like Ashley williams or van Dijk who I feel are underrated plus when smalling is out we need a defender who loves actually defending.Blind is a good centre half but needs to be next to someone like Smalling who wil do the dirt work. Jones and Rojo make me nervous with their rash decisions and also injury prone nature makes them unreliable
I still have nightmares of Ashley Williams caving in and gifting Leicester an early goal in that crucial game a few weeks ago.
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Old 22-05-2016, 18:13
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I'd be stunned if Ibrahimovic isn't in shortly after Jose.
I'd agree , Ibrahimovic would hopefully make as big an impact as Cantana did all those years ago . 20 maybe 25 goals guaranteed plus loads of assists . Imagine how much the youngsters would learn off him as well.
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Old 22-05-2016, 18:43
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Of course she ****ing is. She isn't a revolting, racist sexist shitstain who thinks war crimes are a good thing, immediately making her miles better. Jesus christ.





Loved seeing that blow up in his face.
I don't want to take the thread off-topic again, but I'm just catching up on the day's posts so couldn't reply to this sooner. The thread is barely on-topic right now anyway.

I don't even know why he brought her up in the first place. What relevance does she have? It's like if you don't like Trump for being all those things you mentioned, the natural response is "Hillary's bad too". It's as if by you criticising him it means you're automatically a supporter of her, so criticising him has to be met with "but what about her?" rather than focusing on the criticism being given to him. Seems like poor deflection tactics for someone who can't accept criticism.

But it doesn't matter, it looks like he's ignored your post anyway, so nevermind...

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The club isn't "crawling back after" snubbing him. He has remained voluntarily and ostentatiously unemployed on the off chance that the club of his dreams would finally deign to employ him.
That's not what I meant. He wanted to go to you, you snubbed him. After you failed, twice, you're now wanting his services after it hasn't worked out. Other managers might not have been so willing to wait in those circumstances. But that's ignoring what I was talking about.
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Old 22-05-2016, 19:24
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I'd agree , Ibrahimovic would hopefully make as big an impact as Cantana did all those years ago . 20 maybe 25 goals guaranteed plus loads of assists . Imagine how much the youngsters would learn off him as well.
Ibrahimovic is another Falcao, wanting to come to the Premiership,for one last huge pay day. He's hot and cold, has terrible games and then some good ones but mostly he plays for himself and not the team.
He is also 34 and unless the team was built around him would have a mammoth strop.
I would be very disappointed if we signed him - maybe take a chance on a pay as you play deal but his ego would not let him go for that.
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Old 22-05-2016, 19:25
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I'd agree , Ibrahimovic would hopefully make as big an impact as Cantana did all those years ago . 20 maybe 25 goals guaranteed plus loads of assists . Imagine how much the youngsters would learn off him as well.
I'm in favour of bringing in Ibra for the last reason you mentioned - I see him playing the sort of role Owen or Larsson did.

But the idea of him scoring 20-25 goals is so far off the mark. He's 34 years old and, all due to respect to our friends across the pond, Ligue One is not the Premier League. It essentially begins and ends with PSG. He has no PL experience and it remains to be seen to what extent his lethargic pace will square with the speed of the English game.

By all means, bring him in, but we shouldn't be pinning our hopes on him.
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Old 22-05-2016, 23:12
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...rs-near-mutiny
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Old 22-05-2016, 23:24
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Despite this article I never got the impression that the players wern't playing for him, some head scratching re tactics possibly , unlike with Moyes where he seemed to have lost some of them.
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Old 23-05-2016, 06:29
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Me neither. The players may been confused by his tactics at time but I think they respected him and never stopped trying for him. With Moyes, when it started going wrong, he just couldn't win over a dressing room that had won everything when he'd won nothing as a manager.
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Old 23-05-2016, 09:49
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Multiple papers have the same story, with the same details. Some one has leaked it, and not just to one journo but like near enough all of them. It isn't pretty reading to be honest, even the glowing praise of Giggs. I do get the impression that they are doing what they have to do on the pitch rather than doing what they want, in fear of being dropped and that's all of them. No wonder they will be glad to see him gone, perhaps they'll put more of an effort in for the new manager, rather than going through the motions.
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Old 23-05-2016, 10:12
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The players seem to not give a damn abiut Van Gaal as much as they didn't about Moyes. It seems to be those fans who just dislike and respect Moyes less than Van Gaal who choose to see it differently
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:12
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Apparently he has got a contractual lawyer with him at the training ground, so we might here something rather soon.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:13
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Multiple papers have the same story, with the same details. Some one has leaked it, and not just to one journo but like near enough all of them. It isn't pretty reading to be honest, even the glowing praise of Giggs. I do get the impression that they are doing what they have to do on the pitch rather than doing what they want, in fear of being dropped and that's all of them. No wonder they will be glad to see him gone, perhaps they'll put more of an effort in for the new manager, rather than going through the motions.
Funny how Giggs gets no criticism despite all the mud being slung in all directions isn't it?

If I was Jose I wouldn't want him anywhere near my back room staff.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:21
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Announcement at lunch time says BBC.

Has the same employment lawyer David Moyes used. Not sure if that's LVG's choice or the club.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:21
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Apparently he has got a contractual lawyer with him at the training ground, so we might here something rather soon.
Club announcement to be made at 'lunchtime', apparently.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:23
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Funny how Giggs gets no criticism despite all the mud being slung in all directions isn't it?

If I was Jose I wouldn't want him anywhere near my back room staff.
In all the discussions on Giggs as a potential manager etc, one of my defenses is that we've never heard anything positive or negative with regards his coaching. That is till now. However, as it has been said else where, this could be the senior players just wanting a mate as a manager who'll give them a bit of an easy ride.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:29
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Club announcement to be made at 'lunchtime', apparently.
Stock Market opens at about 2pm for the Americans doesn't it, so probably timed for about then I would think.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:33
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Something positive about José coming in, is that he is a form Europa League/UEFA Cup winning manager, so hopefully he can lead us to glory in that competition, if a top four spot is not possible, as it will be the hardest season possibly ever to get one of those top four places.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:35
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In all the discussions on Giggs as a potential manager etc, one of my defenses is that we've never heard anything positive or negative with regards his coaching. That is till now. However, as it has been said else where, this could be the senior players just wanting a mate as a manager who'll give them a bit of an easy ride.
That seems to be the suggestion from some of the articles that the press are running with this morning.

Boot camp would be the best course of action for some of these precious fellas.

I'm liking the rumours of Zlatan being assistant manager/player that seem to be also doing the rounds this morning.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:35
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Something positive about José coming in, is that he is a form Europa League/UEFA Cup winning manager, so hopefully he can lead us to glory in that competition, if a top four spot is not possible, as it will be the hardest season possibly ever to get one of those top four places.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:36
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Today's Telegraph are reporting that Blackburn have made an approach for Warren Joyce, interesting news. It would be interesting to see if given the chance he'd go. He's done well though with our U21's and hasn't done to badly in his previous management role with Hull.

Not sure who would step into his shoes should he leave. Butt would have been the obvious choice, but since he's now in charge of the whole academy it may be a bit much doing both jobs.
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Old 23-05-2016, 11:37
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Looks like Blackburn can spot a potentially good manager, I would be sad to see him go, as he has done tremendously well with us:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...g-their-under/
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