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Well, Giggs has not left, and he has had an offer to stay.
I give it 30/100 he stays. Working under Mourinho certainly ain't for everyone. No way Giggs stays inho. |
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Lol the lIes in this thread are hilarious
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Eleven PL assists and 5 goals suggests otherwise (especially for a non-attacking midfielder). Fair minded fans would look beyond the badges he's worn on his shirt over the years.
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I'd agree , Ibrahimovic would hopefully make as big an impact as Cantana did all those years ago . 20 maybe 25 goals guaranteed plus loads of assists . Imagine how much the youngsters would learn off him as well.
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Not developing youth is a myth. The Man Utd youth is already in the first team squad so doesn't need to be developed anyway.
His Real Madrid team broke the La Liga goalscoring record. His first Chelsea team were top scorers in the league and his Inter Milan team were top scorers in the league. Most managers are lucky to spend 3 years at the same club these days. Quote:
What I I find ironic is ever since Van Gaal arrived United fans and the media have critized the pragmatic boring football. Now they have Mourinho who is known as providing pragmatic boring football.
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Well, Giggs has not left, and he has had an offer to stay.
I give it 30/100 he stays. Working under Mourinho certainly ain't for everyone. Quote:
Very impressed at the discretion of the 20 or so fans who were confided in about Van Gaal before the rest of the world.
They must be the "army" LVG was always telling us about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59qOjN9Pq8 |
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Cantona was in his prime when he came to United, Ibra is on the wane and ain't going to get any better. If Jose is hot on him as some on here seem to think, I only hope he waits to see how well he plays at the Euro's. He's on a free, so the wait shouldn't matter that much. If he has a good showing there, with players less talented than the PSG ones to set up his goals for him, fair play, might be worth a punt.
He isn't a punt in that respect he is a proven world class striker and if you disagree I don't think three weeks in the summer proves that one way or another in all honesty. |
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Delightful exclusive interview with Eric Cantona on his 50th birthday in today's Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ited-guardiola |
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He isn't a punt in that respect he is a proven world class striker and if you disagree I don't think three weeks in the summer proves that one way or another in all honesty.
We don't even know if Mourinho wants him - does he have a track record of buying players at the end of their careers - Drogba was going back so a known quantity, otherwise can only think of Shevchenko who was Abramovic's buy - at the end of his career and we all know how that turned out. |
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He's a definite punt for me, plays when he wants to. Saw him in a couple of Champions League games this season and he was anonymous. He's also not a team player, it's all about Zlatan.
We don't even know if Mourinho wants him - does he have a track record of buying players at the end of their careers - Drogba was going back so a known quantity, otherwise can only think of Shevchenko who was Abramovic's buy - at the end of his career and we all know how that turned out. He's a definite punt, be good to watch how he gets on with Mourinho though as he arguably has a bigger ego than even him! |
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Apparently we may not have a public announcement until Friday, personal terms have been agreed but there is some conflict with Jose's sponsorship deals and Uniteds eg. he advertises for Jaguar and we have Chevrolet, he represents Hublot watches whereas United have changed to Bulova.
It's not expected to prevent him joining but the lawyers are still arguing over all of this. |
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Wow, the things that go into holding up deals from bring completed these days are crazy!
Chelsea apparently hold the trademark to the name "José Mourinho"! https://twitter.com/AlexShawESPN/sta...068272128?s=09 |
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He's a definite punt for me, plays when he wants to. Saw him in a couple of Champions League games this season and he was anonymous. He's also not a team player, it's all about Zlatan.
We don't even know if Mourinho wants him - does he have a track record of buying players at the end of their careers - Drogba was going back so a known quantity, otherwise can only think of Shevchenko who was Abramovic's buy - at the end of his career and we all know how that turned out. As an aside its a Falcao type deal without the injury to worry about. If the risk is paying large wages and that's all then its probably a risk that most clubs would take. |
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Apparently we may not have a public announcement until Friday, personal terms have been agreed but there is some conflict with Jose's sponsorship deals and Uniteds eg. he advertises for Jaguar and we have Chevrolet, he represents Hublot watches whereas United have changed to Bulova.
It's not expected to prevent him joining but the lawyers are still arguing over all of this. Someone who may be in a position to know about these things told me yesterday that he expected to be busy on Friday. Because I'm a real fan who goes to games and everything. [/Jackol] |
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Wow, the things that go into holding up deals from bring completed these days are crazy!
Chelsea apparently hold the trademark to the name "José Mourinho"! https://twitter.com/AlexShawESPN/sta...068272128?s=09 And why would he allow it as they have sacked him twice! Quote:
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Someone who may be in a position to know about these things told me yesterday that he expected to be busy on Friday. Because I'm a real fan who goes to games and everything. [/Jackol]
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Apparently we may not have a public announcement until Friday, personal terms have been agreed but there is some conflict with Jose's sponsorship deals and Uniteds eg. he advertises for Jaguar and we have Chevrolet, he represents Hublot watches whereas United have changed to Bulova.
It's not expected to prevent him joining but the lawyers are still arguing over all of this. |
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Lol the lIes in this thread are hilarious
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yeah its bad the way lvg was treated. but like how they gave regular attending fans a scoop. cant knock that
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Absolutely, I mean, there's no better way to find out that you've got the sack than from your understanding wife, right in the middle of your celebrations of the first major trophy for 3 years... he must have been delighted not to have to be told by that nasty Mr. Woodward.
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He isn't a punt in that respect he is a proven world class striker and if you disagree I don't think three weeks in the summer proves that one way or another in all honesty.
You know the saying? Don't buy an unknown player on the back of a good tournament or something like that? Well for me, this would be the exact opposite. |
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Absolutely, I mean, there's no better way to find out that you've got the sack than from your understanding wife, right in the middle of your celebrations of the first major trophy for 3 years...
He will have known, as soon as we couldn't qualify for the Champions League. It's quite clear that doing that is the absolute, minimum requirement. |
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Do you genuinely believe that he didn't have an inkling?
But hey, it's history now and here comes Jose! |
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All buys are a punt and Zlatan is proven but he's also ageing. And at his age, he can rapidly decline at any time, especially playing up front. I haven't had the opportunity to watch him outside the CL, but what I did see worried me. Against Chelsea, he looked class and as if he had a lot left. Against City he had a stinker and looked drained. Was that due to the amount of games he had played taking it's toll on him at his age or just an off day? I don't know, but I would like to see how he copes in the Euro's to be sure.
You know the saying? Don't buy an unknown player on the back of a good tournament or something like that? Well for me, this would be the exact opposite. I feel sure that all managers who rate him would be happy to take the risk knowing that if it doesn't pay off all that has been lost is his wages, large as they are. I think Man Utd are ideal for him simply because he will play in the big games but will probably be rested and rotated to account for his age, that will allow for the further use of Rashford or AN Other whilst still having the big name player on board when required. |
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No, what makes you think that? Having an inkling and getting knifed in the middle of your celebrations are two different things though. Whoever leaked it to Stone, United should have been prepared for that possibility and clearly weren't.
But hey, it's history now and here comes Jose! |
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Considering the amount of speculation that had been around for months regarding mourinho and the fact that it seemed that no one had the actual scoop, I think man United did quite well and didn't leak a thing until the last minute.
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Leaks happen. All I'm saying is that United should have been prepared for this but seemingly weren't. That's it.
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No, what makes you think that? Having an inkling and getting knifed in the middle of your celebrations are two different things though. Whoever leaked it to Stone, United should have been prepared for that possibility and clearly weren't.
But hey, it's history now and here comes Jose! |
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If we had to pay a fee on top of paying Zlatan whatever amounts per week, then that would be something that would put me off of signing him, but getting him on a free for a year or maybe two tops, wouldn't be such a bad deal all told.
If it works out great, if not, then he is not here for that long, so it wouldn't hurt us that much from a purely playing perspective. |
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They must be the "army" LVG was always telling us about: