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Old 12-03-2016, 17:29
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why would someone turn up at a game two hours early? he must be a boring b*stard
Heh he's a bit of a special case. Went to see Deadpool a couple of weeks ago, 2pm screening, we arrived at 12 to meet him for drinks and he was sat in the theatre on his own two hours before it was due to start. You always get one in every group.
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Old 12-03-2016, 17:40
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I wouldn't predict any great improvement in the team for at least another 18 months, which is when the youngsters currently breaking through should be just about ready. All things being equal anyway, that is if they are not burned out by being overplayed, or ruined by being played out of position before they've properly learned their own.

I assume any new manager would at least avoid these more bizarre aspects of LvG's "philosophy", which would be some kind of worthwhile improvement. I don't assume another £250m round of football casino will necessarily bring success, any more than the first attempt.
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Old 12-03-2016, 18:17
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If Giggs takes over after LvG, either at the end of this season or next season, then you'll probably miss out on Mourinho for good. You get the chance to sign a manager like Mourinho and you let it slip, twice, that takes some doing.

It's like he's been friendzoned by Man United.
At least we would be doing something right then, as hiring José is something that we really should be avoiding at all costs.
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Old 12-03-2016, 18:19
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At least we would be doing something right then, as hiring José is something that we really should be avoiding at all costs.
Hiring Giggs instead of Mourinho is hardly doing something right.

I'm not getting into the merits of Mourinho to United because you've made your point pretty much every time someone mentions the name Mourinho.
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Old 12-03-2016, 19:08
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At least we would be doing something right then, as hiring José is something that we really should be avoiding at all costs.
Having a preference of GIggs over Jose, that could result in some barren years.

I hope the board aren't thinking the same way as you do.
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Old 12-03-2016, 19:29
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At least we would be doing something right then, as hiring José is something that we really should be avoiding at all costs.
is it a head injury you have? I can understand not wanting jose but 'avoid at all costs'? you must be trolling
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:14
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Having a preference of GIggs over Jose, that could result in some barren years.

I hope the board aren't thinking the same way as you do.
I'd have thought Giggs' Phil Neal impression on the touchline to complement LVG's Taylor is all the proof most sane fans would need to determine he isn't the answer. I'm not a Jose fan but even I'd concede he's a far betters option than the totally unproven and uninspiring Ryan Giggs. He's more "Awww" than "Awe" and a dressing room and media spotlight like United's demands the latter.
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:21
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Having a preference of GIggs over Jose, that could result in some barren years.

I hope the board aren't thinking the same way as you do.
Huh, where did I say that I wanted Giggs to take charge??

I don't want that to transpire, I would much prefer someone with experience of top level football, so that rules Giggs out sadly.

All I said was that I didn't want Jose here, there are a few good options out there, if we look away from the Jose bubble.


is it a head injury you have? I can understand not wanting jose but 'avoid at all costs'? you must be trolling
My head is fine, and no, I am not a troll, and neither am I trolling, (why is that the defacto line when someone has a different viewpoint to the norm???) I am just giving my opinion as to my own personal preference as to what I think is best for the club going forward, just as everyone is as well.
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:25
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All I said was that I didn't want Jose here, there are a few good options out there, if we look away from the Jose bubble.
Such as?
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:26
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Huh, where did I say that I wanted Giggs to take charge??

I don't want that to transpire, I would much prefer someone with experience of top level football, so that rules Giggs out sadly.

All I said was that I didn't want Jose here, there are a few good options out there, if we look away from the Jose bubble.

The post you quoted from me was talking about Giggs taking over meaning the end of any chance of Mourinho going to Man United. You replied saying at least the club would have done something right, implying choosing Giggs over Mourinho is the club doing the right thing.
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:29
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The post you quoted from me was talking about Giggs taking over meaning the end of any chance of Mourinho going to Man United. You replied saying at least the club would have done something right, implying choosing Giggs over Mourinho is the club doing the right thing.
Yep!

That's how I read it too.
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Old 12-03-2016, 20:46
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My head is fine, and no, I am not a troll, and neither am I trolling, (why is that the defacto line when someone has a different viewpoint to the norm???) I am just giving my opinion as to my own personal preference as to what I think is best for the club going forward, just as everyone is as well.
it is not the fact that you hold another opinion, it is that your opinion is unreasonable to the point of being unbelievable.

please don't talk to me so aggresively, bardude. i've been very kind to you, always making sure i ask how you are doing at this tough time.
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Old 13-03-2016, 09:37
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At least we would be doing something right then, as hiring José is something that we really should be avoiding at all costs.
I don't see hiring Mourinho as any riskier than any other manager out there. We tried a British manager who hadn't won anything but seemed like he was ready for the step up, it didn't work. We tried an experienced foreign manager who'd won plenty, it hasn't worked. At this point I don't see why we should avoid Mourinho at all costs.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:09
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Such a flat feeling going into the game today. Can't say I'm looking forward to it at all. The only way I can see us winning is by grinding out a result or getting a bit of luck.

Just want the season to end, really.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:20
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Anyone confident of victory today, as I am not, Payet and Antonio scare me more than I think our players scare them.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:21
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it is not the fact that you hold another opinion, it is that your opinion is unreasonable to the point of being unbelievable.

please don't talk to me so aggresively, bardude. i've been very kind to you, always making sure i ask how you are doing at this tough time.
Sorry, I didn't mean for my answer to come across as aggressive or anything of that nature, that was not how I intended it at all.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:26
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Just back from an unfortunate ban and catching up on the goings on here.

Feel the need to offer up an apology for my previous spats with Batdude in light of him announcing he is suffering from his illness. Rightly he isn't discussing the exact nature of it but if its preventing him being able to get a job its clearly something very serious. Certainly puts petty arguments over football into perspective and I will try and be more considerate in future with this in mind.

Having suffered myself and been unable to work for a while I can sympathise with the feeling of worthlessness you can have if you aren't able to work for a period and are just stuck in the house with no real purpose or sense of achievement in life. Hopefully its only a temporary setback.

Anyway on to todays game and speaking of no real purpose or sense of achievement in life I can only watch from behind the sofa as we no doubt conspire to chuck away our last remaining hope for a trophy this season.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:31
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Such as Koeman, Cocu, Favre, Garcia, or Allegri for starters.

They are all very good managers in their own right, and I think would cause much less chaos then José would.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:37
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It seems I'm not going to get any response to my post from last night, oh well.

While reading the Chelsea thread it was mentioned that Mourinho was the one that got rid of Lukaku. Since Batdude doesn't seem to rate him that highly, what with him going backwards since his Anderlecht days, then surely Mourinho has that going for him? If he signed for Man United you'd be less likely to get him.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:39
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Just back from an unfortunate ban and catching up on the goings on here.

Feel the need to offer up an apology for my previous spats with Batdude in light of him announcing he is suffering from his illness. Rightly he isn't discussing the exact nature of it but if its preventing him being able to get a job its clearly something very serious. Certainly puts petty arguments over football into perspective and I will try and be more considerate in future with this in mind.

Having suffered myself and been unable to work for a while I can sympathise with the feeling of worthlessness you can have if you aren't able to work for a period and are just stuck in the house with no real purpose or sense of achievement in life. Hopefully its only a temporary setback.

Anyway on to todays game and speaking of no real purpose or sense of achievement in life I can only watch from behind the sofa as we no doubt conspire to chuck away our last remaining hope for a trophy this season.
Many thanks for this kind post, I will take it in the spirit that comes across within it.

Yes it is kind of annoying (but mostly frustrating is my main feeling or emotion), but hopefully things are looking up on that front, as I now at least can see a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak.

By the time we (hopefully) get a new manager in the summer, I should have had my operation, so fresh starts all round!

As for today's match, I can't remember feeling so low and not very confident about a a match for a very long time, West Ham are coming into this tie, looking like us from a age that has past us by, Payet seems to be their Cantona, and he is looking highly impressive so far.

I can only but hope and wish that we put in a 100 times more impressive showing then in our last game.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:42
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It seems I'm not going to get any response to my post from last night, oh well.

While reading the Chelsea thread it was mentioned that Mourinho was the one that got rid of Lukaku. Since Batdude doesn't seem to rate him that highly, what with him going backwards since his Anderlecht days, then surely Mourinho has that going for him? If he signed for Man United you'd be less likely to get him.

The new investment that has come into Everton, plus the new TV deal, surely makes any possible move for Lukaku either very, very expensive, or just a non starter doesn't it?

No matter my feelings or emotions on him, all of this new cash, just makes signing him really really hard, and I don't see him leaving Everton this summer, no matter if we were interested in him.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:46
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The new investment that has come into Everton, plus the new TV deal, surely makes any possible move for Lukaku either very, very expensive, or just a non starter doesn't it?

No matter my feelings or emotions on him, all of this new cash, just makes signing him really really hard, and I don't see him leaving Everton this summer, no matter if we were interested in him.
No, it doesn't make it less likely because you're also getting this new TV deal as well as a lot of other cash from other directions as well as multiple other things. But that kind of misses my point, with Mourinho coming in making the signing less likely, which must be a plus to him in your eyes.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:54
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Yes the new TV deal will almost certainly end the transfer market in this country. Just as it did in 1992 after which no top level club ever bought anyone from the same division ever again.
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:55
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Such as Koeman, Cocu, Favre, Garcia, or Allegri for starters.

They are all very good managers in their own right, and I think would cause much less chaos then José would.
By your own definition allegri isn't available so why are you counting him here?

Plus those 5 different names all have a combined total of 9 league titles between them. 2 of which are in the Swiss league.

Mourinho has 8 league titles on his own including obvious premier league ones as well as his 3 European trophies.

The ones you list are not better options, just admit you don't want mourinho because you don't like him or basically think Chelsea are rubbish but don't try pretending he isn't a proven top manager that wins things,
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Old 13-03-2016, 12:58
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Koeman is already in a job, and with this new TV deal why would he leave Southampton for Man United?
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