Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Well if you don't think it makes much difference when in the summer period a manager is appointed, why did we rush to appoint José as soon as we did, why not just take all summer doing negotiations, if there is no rush, as nothing happens in the summer? ”
I didn't say any of that. I asked you how Man Utd were actually disadvantaged by Van Gaal being with the Netherlands. I asked how disrupted your pre-season was and what players you missed out on by him being late to the party?
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“In all reality, you want a manager firmly in place so that he can he plan everything out, be it training, transfers, and everything else that a manager is required to do these days.”
Yes obviously if he is available you would want him in and uncertainty removed. However that wasn't what I was asking!
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“Having to wait for one, is not at all ideal, especially since an international tournament is totally out of the clubs control, a manager could start straight after the group stages, or as long as after the final whistle of the World Cup final itself (or whatever/whichever international tournament is at hand), a bit of a difference in times to start wouldn't you say? ”
So once again, how did this disadvantage actually manifest itself for Man Utd and Van Gaal?
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“Look at another example, Moyes didn't start with us until July 1st, and we were already on the backfoot, and having to have a catchup period.”
The least of the problems with Moyes was him starting in July, its the fact he started at all that caused the problems!
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“Having appointed José when we have, does allow for him to start asap, and his sole focus is on us, and us alone, whereas with Conte, his focus at the moment is Italy, and rightly so.
He will have to get used to his new surroundings, and squad pretty quickly after Italy are eliminated, but until then Chelsea are in limbo (just as we were with LvG and Holland/Netherlands), they don't know when he will start, and so any potential transfers, or activity pertaining to the first team will have to be placed on hold, until Italy are eliminated from the European Championships”
And once again how did that affect United and Van Gaal? How many players do Chelsea have who are either at the Euro's or on holiday right now anyway? Conte won't be working with them any time soon and the transfers will be getting worked on, similar to Van Gaal.
I just thought you would tell me how United would have been better of in any tangible way that you can explain had Holland been knocked out in the group stages or Van Gaal not managed them at all. Anything that can actually be quantified like pre-season missed or played who didn't sign.