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Man United Supporters Thread (Part 50)
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Jim De Ville
03-06-2016
I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

Believe what you want, Batdude. Oh, and you didn't answer my earlier question. Can I help at all?
batdude_uk1
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

Believe what you want, Batdude. Oh, and you didn't answer my earlier question. Can I help at all?”

I can only go by what actually happened, not go on rumours and links, so it is not a case of believing something, it is going by what actually happened.

As for your earlier question, I am doing well, so I will take on board your offer for advice and help, and call upon it, when necessary, many thanks for it though.
Jim De Ville
03-06-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“As for your earlier question, I am doing well, so I will take on board your offer for advice and help, and call upon it, when necessary, many thanks for it though.”

Not a problem. Seriously, I'm good.
batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Not a problem. Seriously, I'm good.”

That is great to hear/read, so be prepared for a dm when the time comes!
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
i am not in favour of signing zlatan, i think he'll struggle in the prem, he'll score a few at old trafford but i think he'll struggle in the away games. there was a noticeable decline in his mobility and reflexes during the second half of last season. i think the signings of carrick and zlatan are a disappointing start to mourinho's tenure, i was hoping he would get to work building the next great united team, he's not going to do that with these veteran signings. zlatan will be with us for a year and then at the end of it we'll need to sign another striker, a stop gap signing for one year doesn't get us anywhere. besides, how exactly is he going to fit rooney and zlatan into the same lineup, i don't see how that can possibly work, its already hard enough shoehorning rooney into the lineup as it is without adding zlatan into the mix. i hope he proves me wrong tho, obviously...
Makosi's pants
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“Thank God we also turned down the chance of Vardy as has been reported.

There are more attractive players amongst his teammates that I'd be interested in rather than him.”

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Yes indeed, Kante and Marhez for starters.”

Not Marhez. I wonder if Marhez is a late bloomer or has he peaked like his team probably have. I do like him as a player and I know he had an outstanding season but I wonder if he could repeat it under the spotlight at OT where every dribbler has to match up to comparisons of Georgie, Eric and Giggs.

But I'd be more than happy for us to go for Kante. I don't think his season is a one-off at all and he has the type of stamina that would make the duracell bunny gasp for breath. I read somewhere that he has the prem record for making the most winning tackles in a season? Anyway, definitely wouldn't hurt us to have a reliable, pacy ball-winner in the middle again.
vampirek
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Banana Rama:
“i am not in favour of signing zlatan, i think he'll struggle in the prem, he'll score a few at old trafford but i think he'll struggle in the away games. there was a noticeable decline in his mobility and reflexes during the second half of last season. i think the signings of carrick and zlatan are a disappointing start to mourinho's tenure, i was hoping he would get to work building the next great united team, he's not going to do that with these veteran signings. zlatan will be with us for a year and then at the end of it we'll need to sign another striker, a stop gap signing for one year doesn't get us anywhere. besides, how exactly is he going to fit rooney and zlatan into the same lineup, i don't see how that can possibly work, its already hard enough shoehorning rooney into the lineup as it is without adding zlatan into the mix. i hope he proves me wrong tho, obviously...”

Well firstly Carrick brings a lot of experience and is one of the responsible long standing members of the team. That is what money cant buy and is prove useful when bringing in younger players.

As for Zlatan/Rooney, Rooney is no longer a striker and has been questionable since he first arrived as to what position he actually plays. Rooney is going to be used in different positions and the beauty of Zlatan only being around for a year or two (depending on how it goes) is that Martial and Rashford can learn from him and grow. The whole idea is to let these two grow rather than being relied on from day one. They can learn to adapt, try new things out and know that its Zlatan who will be taking the hit if it doesnt work out.

Its good to see we are thinking long term and about Rashford in all this.
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by vampirek:
“Well firstly Carrick brings a lot of experience and is one of the responsible long standing members of the team. That is what money cant buy and is prove useful when bringing in younger players.

As for Zlatan/Rooney, Rooney is no longer a striker and has been questionable since he first arrived as to what position he actually plays. Rooney is going to be used in different positions and the beauty of Zlatan only being around for a year or two (depending on how it goes) is that Martial and Rashford can learn from him and grow. The whole idea is to let these two grow rather than being relied on from day one. They can learn to adapt, try new things out and know that its Zlatan who will be taking the hit if it doesnt work out.

Its good to see we are thinking long term and about Rashford in all this.”

martial and rashford seem to be developing quite nicely as it is without having zlatan around to learn from so i am not sure that argument really holds much weight. besides, why couldn't they learn from a younger striker in his prime like higuain for example, why does it have to be zlatan? we can't really expect to be serious premier league contenders with a 35 year old leading the line for us who has no premier league experience, i don't think thats realistic when you look at how strong our rivals are going to be next season. if zlatan is our only striker signing of the summer then its top 4 at best next season in my opinion, i am not impressed with this signing at all...
Jamesp84
04-06-2016
Makes a change...
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Makes a change...”

batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Makosi's pants:
“Not Marhez. I wonder if Marhez is a late bloomer or has he peaked like his team probably have. I do like him as a player and I know he had an outstanding season but I wonder if he could repeat it under the spotlight at OT where every dribbler has to match up to comparisons of Georgie, Eric and Giggs.

But I'd be more than happy for us to go for Kante. I don't think his season is a one-off at all and he has the type of stamina that would make the duracell bunny gasp for breath. I read somewhere that he has the prem record for making the most winning tackles in a season? Anyway, definitely wouldn't hurt us to have a reliable, pacy ball-winner in the middle again.”

I agree with you over Kante, I would love him here, he would make such a difference, although I can see him having a storming European Championships, and thus his price tag rocketing skywards.
Stilton Cheesew
04-06-2016
Stunned at some United fans not being happy about signing Ibrahimovic. Would this be the same people who when Mourinho was appointed were complaining about the inevitable lack of opportunities for Martial and Rashford, yet were the same people who claimed a new striker was needed?

This is the perfect signing. A 34 year old who is still a world class talent and coming on a free. He elevates the United striking options while at the same time not hindering the progress of the younger players. If he works out everyone at the club benefits and if he doesn't you still have the likes of Rashford and Martial. Seems ideal.
batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
I was against José coming (but I am happy to be on his side now), yet I am happy to see Ibrahimovic come here on a short-term deal, if it was a two or three year deal, then I would have my concerns, as it is he will be here for a year, and then most likely join up with Becks afterwards.

So it is a great situation that we find ourselves in, as young players like Martial, Fletcher, and Rashford can all learn something from such an iconic and very talented player whilst he is here, and since he is only here for a single year, he won't stunt or harm their development, so I don't really see too many negatives with this sort of deal.
TheMunch
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I agree with you over Kante, I would love him here, he would make such a difference, although I can see him having a storming European Championships, and thus his price tag rocketing skywards.”

Leicester won't sell Kante to you. They don't need to. The new TV deal will mean they won't need the money.
batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
With Southampton possibly changing mangers, would it now be in our interest to possibly go after Mane?

If they are without a manager, surely now would be the best time to try and get him, to take advantage of their instability?
batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Leicester won't sell Kante to you. They don't need to. The new TV deal will mean they won't need the money.”

Touche.

It will depend then on what he wants to do, stay there, orove on, plus I have no idea about his contract or if there is a similar release clause that Arsenal are taking advantage of to get Vardy with him, but if so, then Leicester would not have much of a say if we met that figure.
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“Stunned at some United fans not being happy about signing Ibrahimovic. Would this be the same people who when Mourinho was appointed were complaining about the inevitable lack of opportunities for Martial and Rashford, yet were the same people who claimed a new striker was needed?”

no that wouldn't be the same people, i have never complained about either of those two things on this forum, so your sweeping generalisation is wrong.

Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
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This is the perfect signing. A 34 year old who is still a world class talent and coming on a free. He elevates the United striking options while at the same time not hindering the progress of the younger players. If he works out everyone at the club benefits and if he doesn't you still have the likes of Rashford and Martial. Seems ideal.
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he'll be 35 in october, so its the 35 year old ibrahimovic that we'll be getting for most of the season not the 34 year old one. people are acting like there is no potential down side to signing ibrahimovic, well there is. we need a striker that is going to score 20+ league goals for us, if he flops due to not being able to adapt to the prem at this late stage of his career then it means that we don't have the striker that we needed because we have a 35 year old struggling up front instead of a striker in his prime like higuain or morata.

Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Leicester won't sell Kante to you. They don't need to. The new TV deal will mean they won't need the money.”

from what i have heard kante has a release clause just like vardy, so leicester won't have any choice in the matter if that is the case.
Stilton Cheesew
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Banana Rama:
“he'll be 35 in october, so its the 35 year old ibrahimovic that we'll be getting for most of the season not the 34 year old one.”

There isn't some magical decline on his birthday in October.
batdude_uk1
04-06-2016
He was one of the most prolific strikers in the world last season, what is really so bad about getting him on a one year deal?

There really are not too many negatives to be had with this potential deal if it happens.
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“There isn't some magical decline on his birthday in October.”

you mentioned that he is 34 in your post as if it is somehow one of the points in the plus column when it comes to signing him, i am just pointing out that he won't be 34 for much longer, he'll be 35 for most of the season.
Syntax Error
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I was against José coming (but I am happy to be on his side now), yet I am happy to see Ibrahimovic come here on a short-term deal, if it was a two or three year deal, then I would have my concerns, as it is he will be here for a year, and then most likely join up with Becks afterwards.

So it is a great situation that we find ourselves in, as young players like Martial, Fletcher, and Rashford can all learn something from such an iconic and very talented player whilst he is here, and since he is only here for a single year, he won't stunt or harm their development, so I don't really see too many negatives with this sort of deal.”

I was initially sceptical when it was rumoured that Egohimovic was signing for us, but now I quite like the idea.

As long as it's only one year, there's no real harm.

He seems to still have the fitness & form & like you say, our youngsters can learn a lot from him.

As long as his ego doesn't take control of him, he should be a good addition, much like when Henrik Larsson came to us on loan, late on in his career & was still a top player.
percygumtree
04-06-2016
Henrik Larson played 7 times for the club, mostly if I remember as a sub. His impact was negligible at best
Stilton Cheesew
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Banana Rama:
“you mentioned that he is 34 in your post as if it is somehow one of the points in the plus column when it comes to signing him, i am just pointing out that he won't be 34 for much longer, he'll be 35 for most of the season.”

No I didn't. I said at 34 he was still a world class talent. The plus point is the "world class talent" part. Nevertheless what you said was that its the 35 year old Ibrahimovic that you are getting not the 34 year old one as if thats somehow different. It isn't, something doesn't magically degenerate when he gets the birthday cake!
Banana Rama
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“No I didn't. I said at 34 he was still a world class talent. The plus point is the "world class talent" part. Nevertheless what you said was that its the 35 year old Ibrahimovic that you are getting not the 34 year old one as if thats somehow different. It isn't, something doesn't magically degenerate when he gets the birthday cake!”

you mentioned his age in your post which is what i responded to, if you didn't want to talk about his age you shouldn't of mentioned it. his age is a major factor to consider when looking at how likely he is to be successful in the prem wether you like it or not. people got carried away and excited when we signed falcao and schweinsteiger, it turned out that the initial concerns about age/injury proneness came to fruition for both of them. ibrahimovic might do ok, he might score about 15 or so goals, but will we win the league with a 35 year old leading the line for us, time will tell but i am sceptical about it...
NorthernNinny
04-06-2016
Zlatan or Vardy?

It's a no brainer.

He also hates Pep so he'll be more than up for it.

What's not to like?
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