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Old 13-03-2016, 14:14
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Sir Alex Ferguson - "The most important man at any club is the manager"

Moyes and Van Gaal were supposed to be longterm and they were a disaster, planning for the long term DOES NOT work. ANY manager coming in who isn't successful won't last longer than 2 years so there is no point planning for longer than that because results and success will dictate, not the length of contract or a reputation for sticking around.

Mourinho might be gone in 3 years but he may not. Any other manager may be gone in 3 years as well.

I fail to see why we should rule out a manager with the record of success he has on the basis that he MAY leave after three years and should instead appoint someone with a worse record because they would be more likely to stick around.
Nail on head with this.

The era of Fergie, Wenger and that bloke who got fired from Portadown the other week is over.
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:15
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In what way was he right? Im not seeing him down the job centre.
Maybe he is currently too ill?
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:31
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I'd never heard of this Favre, that Batdude mentions so I've just googled him. It appears that the sum total of his achievements is jobbing around Switzerland, getting sacked by Hertha Berlin and finishing 3rd in Germany.

In what way does that qualify him to manage Manchester United? If we're stretching it that far then we might just as well appoint Pardew, Pulis or Hughes and be done with it.
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:33
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I'd never heard of this Favre, that Batdude mentions so I've just googled him. It appears that the sum total of his achievements is jobbing around Switzerland, getting sacked by Hertha Berlin and finishing 3rd in Germany.

In what way does that qualify him to manage Manchester United? If we're stretching it that far then we might just as well appoint Pardew, Pulis or Hughes and be done with it.
Nor had i to be honest, My first thought was what the hell does an american quarterback know about managing a football club.
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:36
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Nor had i to be honest, My first thought was what the hell does an american quarterback know about managing a football club.
HOF'er though
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:37
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Huh?
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:40
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If I remember correctly, I remember reading one or two articles about Favre a year or two back. He's known for promoting youth (I think his Borussia M sidehad regularly had an uncommonly young starting lineup) and playing a quick counter attacking style of football. Sounds like he'd be a good choice for the likes of Leicester if Ranieri retires next season, or possibly someone like Soton. It's absurd to link him with the United job though, especially at this particular stage.
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:42
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Promoting youth is fine if they are good enough. Promoting them for the sake of it is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 13-03-2016, 14:55
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You out of work at the mo as well Eddie?
No other clubs have shown an interest in him, except a rumour that Real would,take him back
Seems he may have had some interest....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...er-return-lies

"On Mourinho’s side, the three-times Premier League winner has said he is hopeful of a summer return and claims to have turned down a number of offers since parting company with Chelsea.

Speaking to Fletch and Sav on BT Sport, the 53-year-old said: “I was lucky enough to have good options since I left Chelsea in December. Yes I was lucky enough to have not just options but good options but I made a decision to wait calm in my corner, not disturbing, just waiting, reading a few lies, listen to a few lies."
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:00
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De Gea, Varela, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Rashford, Herrera, Lingard, Martial.

subs: Romero, Darmian, Williams, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Januzaj, Memphis.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:00
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De Gea, Varela, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Rashford, Herrera, Lingard, Martial
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:03
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I'm not Januzaj's biggest fan at all but it's bizarre how he hasn't had a sniff since he's come back given how bereft of options and style going forward. It's as if Van Gaal doesn't want anyone playing unless they're completely de-programmed of whatever it is they learnt from the previous club.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:03
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Seems he may have had some interest....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...er-return-lies

"On Mourinho’s side, the three-times Premier League winner has said he is hopeful of a summer return and claims to have turned down a number of offers since parting company with Chelsea.

Speaking to Fletch and Sav on BT Sport, the 53-year-old said: “I was lucky enough to have good options since I left Chelsea in December. Yes I was lucky enough to have not just options but good options but I made a decision to wait calm in my corner, not disturbing, just waiting, reading a few lies, listen to a few lies."
Translation:

"I'm waiting to see what Van Gaal and United do before committing to anyone else".
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:05
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Promoting youth is fine if they are good enough. Promoting them for the sake of it is a recipe for disaster.
Well, thinking about it, it's another reason (if any more were needed) to be wary about employing him. Not wishing to take anything away from his achievements but you'd imagine that he must have got lucky to some extent with the bunch of talented pups he had at BM.

I just cannot believe that anyone would want him as our manager over Jose Mourinho. Mourinho.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:05
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I'd never heard of this Favre, that Batdude mentions so I've just googled him. It appears that the sum total of his achievements is jobbing around Switzerland, getting sacked by Hertha Berlin and finishing 3rd in Germany.

In what way does that qualify him to manage Manchester United? If we're stretching it that far then we might just as well appoint Pardew, Pulis or Hughes and be done with it.
Okay then, take him out and replace him with Frank De Boer, the point was that there are other options outside of the José bubble that people seem too focused on as if it is him or oblivion for the club.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:07
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Can't see Memphis getting many more minutes this season.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:08
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Nail on head with this.

The era of Fergie, Wenger... is over.
That may be even truer by now... if their fans turn.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:08
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i dont think we should be endorsing racists for the Man U job, batdude. im disappointed in you but i forgive you because youre very ill.
The Court of Public Opinion obviously handed out a life sentence.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:08
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Saw this on Twitter, Carrick and Fellaini have started together seven times this season. United have won two
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:09
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De Gea, Varela, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Rashford, Herrera, Lingard, Martial.

subs: Romero, Darmian, Williams, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Januzaj, Memphis.
A combo of Carrick and Fellaini. Great.

I'm not Januzaj's biggest fan at all but it's bizarre how he hasn't had a sniff since he's come back given how bereft of options and style going forward. It's as if Van Gaal doesn't want anyone playing unless they're completely de-programmed of whatever it is they learnt from the previous club.
I agree.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:10
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Saw this on Twitter, Carrick and Fellaini have started together seven times this season. United have won two, drawn two and lost four
Too slow as a pair. Simples, unless you Van blinkered or want to play Fellaini further up front.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:10
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Okay then, take him out and replace him with Frank De Boer, the point was that there are other options outside of the José bubble that people seem too focused on as if it is him or oblivion for the club.
Of course there are options. The drunk bloke that hangs outside my local Waitrose is an option. The point is are those options demonstrably better than Mourinho and the answer is no.

And also...Oblivion for the club? Arent you the one that recently described United as a nothing club now?
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:11
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Can't see Memphis getting many more minutes this season.
With the Dutch not being in the Euros this year he should take advantage of a long summer, if you change manager next season he might kick on.

Of course there are options. The drunk bloke that hangs outside my local Waitrose is an option. The point is are those options demonstrably better than Mourinho and the answer is no.
Well appointing Giggs ahead of Mourinho somehow means the club would be doing something right, so there's that option...
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:16
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With the Dutch not being in the Euros this year he should take advantage of a long summer, if you change manager next season he might kick on.
I hope so, I have this slightly irrational dislike of him. I know Fellaini gets a lot of stick and he's held up as representing how poor we currently are, but for me Memphis is the better representation of our struggles. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong but I think he's likely to be another dud that we've splashed millions on.
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Old 13-03-2016, 15:21
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Fellani??.......how??......why??
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