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Man United Supporters Thread (Part 50)
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Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah_Jones5:
“Was just saying from a non Man Utd fan that no player is worth that much.”

No you weren't.

You used that as a not-so-thinly-veiled excuse to post some 'celebrity' crap that nobody gives a sh*t about.
TheMunch
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah_Jones5:
“Was just saying from a non Man Utd fan that no player is worth that much.”

No you weren't. You were using it as an excuse to spam the football forum with your irrelevant showbiz crap again that nobody cares about. In two topics, too.


EDIT:

Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“No you weren't.

You used that as a not-so-thinly-veiled excuse to post some 'celebrity' crap that nobody gives a sh*t about.”

Lol, said the same thing.
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“Not if you are insisting on the young players being given their chance as per your posts from the other day.”

Huh???

Not really, if you look at say our most famous period during the "You will not win anything with kids", we had bought Schmeichel, Cantona, Bruce, Pallister etc, so you can buy players whilst also blooding in the younger ones.

Today of course is a lot harder, as the standards required are just so much higher, as are the risks in doing so, but if you have the talent of say a TFM, or a Tunazabe, then it would be a shame to not actually try them out.
Fergie86
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Are people here confident or not about if we will get Pogba??”

I will believe it when and if it happens, somehow just can't see him wanting to return to United but i might be wrong money talks i suppose, i still expect to see him at Real Madrid next season. I think it will come down to whether Madrid are prepared to pay the money Juventus want £100 million is stupid money and in my opinion no player is worth that not even Ronaldo or Messi, Pogba would be a great signing though and i hope it goes through as we would have a fantastic player.
Stilton Cheesew
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“That's a fair concern. I can't see him being as flaky as Di Maria, by any degree of the imagination, but I think that it's very reasonable to suggest that he might see it as a highly-paid stepping stone.”

I dont see that. If he didn't want to come to Man Utd and he wanted Real Madrid he could wait. If Real dont fancy paying £100m for him right now I dont think they are going to be too keen to take him at that price or more later on. I dont think it will be a huge loss maker for Man Utd whatever happens.
Stilton Cheesew
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Fergie86:
“I will believe it when and if it happens, somehow just can't see him wanting to return to United but i might be wrong money talks i suppose, i still expect to see him at Real Madrid next season. I think it will come down to whether Madrid are prepared to pay the money Juventus want £100 million is stupid money and in my opinion no player is worth that not even Ronaldo or Messi, Pogba would be a great signing though and i hope it goes through as we would have a fantastic player.”

In a world where Benteke and Deeney are £30m+ its hard not to see Pogba at £100m!
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Probably best that we never sign anyone, then. Especially from abroad.

Batdude can have his dream of a team made up of kids from Salford, whilst we plummet down the leagues.”

I don't care where the young players come from, why specify Salford out???

They have to be good enough to warrant being in the first team, first and foremost, so if they were of that category, why would we tumble down the leagues??
Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“I dont see that. If he didn't want to come to Man Utd and he wanted Real Madrid he could wait. If Real dont fancy paying £100m for him right now I dont think they are going to be too keen to take him at that price or more later on. I dont think it will be a huge loss maker for Man Utd whatever happens.”

It wouldn't deter me from signing him.

However, we can offer him way more than Juventus, in terms of wages. It may well be that the timing's just wrong for Madrid to be blowing that kind of dough, right now.

Besides, I said it was a 'reasonable concern', not that I definitely think that it would be the case.
Stilton Cheesew
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Huh???

Not really, if you look at say our most famous period during the "You will not win anything with kids", we had bought Schmeichel, Cantona, Bruce, Pallister etc, so you can buy players whilst also blooding in the younger ones.”

Those players were already there and established then you dont need me to tell you that. The Summer those kids came through the world was screaming for you to replace the players you sold with big name signings and you didn't. So doing both doesn't go hand in hand unless you are planning on changing an entire team year on year.
Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I don't care where the young players come from, why specify Salford out???

They have to be good enough to warrant being in the first team, first and foremost, so if they were of that category, why would we tumble down the leagues??”

Do you take everything that literally?
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Fergie86:
“I will believe it when and if it happens, somehow just can't see him wanting to return to United but i might be wrong money talks i suppose, i still expect to see him at Real Madrid next season. I think it will come down to whether Madrid are prepared to pay the money Juventus want £100 million is stupid money and in my opinion no player is worth that not even Ronaldo or Messi, Pogba would be a great signing though and i hope it goes through as we would have a fantastic player.”

I agree that the figures being banded about are crazy, and no one is really worth that kind of money, but I guess if someone is willing and able to offer it, then the player would be a tad foolish to turn it down, it is afterall a short career.
Real do seem to like having the World record transfer as their little baby, they have had it so often in recent times, that it wouldn't really come as a shock if they broke their own record (or Barca's with Neymar, it is hard to know for sure which one is currently the record holder) with Bale.

Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“In a world where Benteke and Deeney are £30m+ its hard not to see Pogba at £100m!”

Crazy fees for those players, if Liverpool break even or make a profit, then it will really show how much money there is flashing around.

Now if only we could get that sort of figure for Fellaini!!
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“Those players were already there and established then you dont need me to tell you that. The Summer those kids came through the world was screaming for you to replace the players you sold with big name signings and you didn't. So doing both doesn't go hand in hand unless you are planning on changing an entire team year on year.”

It shows that it can be done if the young players are of a significantly good enough standard.
If not, then of course we shouldn't just play them for the sake of it (hence why it was a tad strange, and mystifying as to the famous or infamous Powell for Mata sub in the Champions League last season).

Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Do you take everything that literally?”

No, just strange why Salford is singled out that is all.
You still haven't said why if the players were of a good enough standard, we would tumble down the leagues however.
Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“No, just strange why Salford is singled out that is all.
You still haven't said why if the players were of a good enough standard, we would tumble down the leagues however. ”

I don't need to 'say'.

It's called 'exaggeration for comic effect'. Jesus.
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I don't need to 'say'.

It's called 'exaggeration for comic effect'. Jesus.”

Don't need to or will not??

Again, I have only ever said that youth players should be given a chance if they have proven themselves to be worthy of being given that chance, quite how that is worthy of being mocked for comedic effect I don't know.
Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Don't need to or will not??

Again, I have only ever said that youth players should be given a chance if they have proven themselves to be worthy of being given that chance, quite how that is worthy of being mocked for comedic effect I don't know.”

I honestly don't know how to respond to this, so it's probably best that I don't.

Beyond words.
toastie15
07-07-2016
Have Adidas let the cat out of the bag early lol
http://www.adidas.com/uk/apps/frontr...ho-uk-_-pc:crm
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I honestly don't know how to respond to this, so it's probably best that I don't.

Beyond words.”

Beyond words??!
Jim De Ville
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Beyond words??!”

Yes. Utterly beyond words.

It's probably best if you leave it, too.
Grim Fandango
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I honestly don't know how to respond to this, so it's probably best that I don't.

Beyond words.”

Taking a few deep breaths and imagining palm trees swaying in the breeze usually helps a bit.
TheMunch
07-07-2016
*sigh*

Just let it go, Batdude. Jim's trying to end it, just leave it.
Bulge_
07-07-2016
It will be good if Germany win tonight as it'll be good to see a current player (Schweinsteiger, who plays for us) doing well that is for sue!

It will also be good if France win tonight as it'll be good to see an old player (Evra who used to play for us) doing well, I'd certainly say!

It will be good also if France win as it'll be good to see an old player (Pogba, who used to play for us) doing well and a player who might once again play for us (Pogba, who we're linked to) doing well, on that we can all agree!
batdude_uk1
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Yes. Utterly beyond words.

It's probably best if you leave it, too.”

Quite how defending myself is beyond words I won't then I guess.

Originally Posted by Grim Fandango:
“Taking a few deep breaths and imagining palm trees swaying in the breeze usually helps a bit.”

That is a nice image thanks for that.

Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“*sigh*

Just let it go, Batdude. Jim's trying to end it, just leave it.”

Trying to end it with a sarcastic comment??

Okay then, fair enough, let's leave it and move on then.

Originally Posted by Bulge_:
“It will be good if Germany win tonight as it'll be good to see a current player (Schweinsteiger, who plays for us) doing well that is for sue!

It will also be good if France win tonight as it'll be good to see an old player (Evra who used to play for us) doing well, I'd certainly say!

It will be good also if France win as it'll be good to see an old player (Pogba, who used to play for us) doing well and a player who might once again play for us (Pogba, who we're linked to) doing well, on that we can all agree!”

Yeah Evra v Schweinsteiger is a tough, tough call, as Evra still has us in his heart, but I am leaning towards the current player, rather than the ex.
Bulge_
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by toastie15:
“Have Adidas let the cat out of the bag early lol
http://www.adidas.com/uk/apps/frontr...ho-uk-_-pc:crm”

I don't get it. What's been let out of the bag?
Flukie
07-07-2016
United's first 6 PL games are live on telly. Yay! 4 on SS, 2 on BT.

Including the friday night game against Southampton on August 19.

Funny, though. Someone put up a list of United games live on telly up to the end of the year and the Liverpool game on Oct 15 wasn't listed - the Chelsea game on Oct 22 was. Either they moved the Liverpool game or the person writing the list missed it off, surely. Can't imagine the Liverpool game not being on telly.

But as it is, first 6 games Live on telly against Bournemouth, Southampton, Hull, Man City, Watford and Leicester.

First game is at 1.30pm on Sunday August 14. I'm sure some people will complain about having to wait until Sunday for the first game!
The Manchester Derby is at 12.30 on Sat Sept 10.
TeeGee
07-07-2016
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“I've got news for you, they are all wearing their shirts for the money.”

I have news for you too. Sadly in recent years the money has exceeded the commitment and ability that should go with it. I could be wrong but I doubt very much that Eric was ever thinking about his pay, transfer fee or agents commision when he turned his collar up.
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